Topic: Gov. Brown signs bills legalizing Bitcoins use, other legislation (Read 1820 times)

Is it customary for bills to be signed on a Saturday?

Countries often import products that they are in need of and export products that they have excess of. This is globalization 101

This is the kind of government action I like best.
When it kills one of its own more stupid laws and replaces it with nothing.

If they spent a year doing only this, they might be able to balance a budget in some future year someday.

Also Here is the voting record so you can see that we still have some conflict.  There are some in CA governance too stupid to be allowed to remain there, they have voted against their self interest, the common interest and the state interest.  It baffles the mind why anyone would want that old law that benefits no one, constrains business and personal freedom.  So here you have it: the bad in bold, the worst in red:


Date   Result   Location   Ayes   Noes   NVR   Motion
06/23/14   (PASS)   Assembly Floor   52   11   16   AB 129 DICKINSON Concurrence in Senate Amendments
    BTC Ayes: Achadjian, Alejo, Allen, Ammiano, Bloom, Bonilla, Bonta, Bradford, Brown, Ian Calderon, Campos, Chau, Chávez, Chesbro, Cooley, Dababneh, Dickinson, Donnelly, Fong, Garcia, Gatto, Gomez, Gonzalez, Hagman, Roger Hernández, Holden, Jones, Jones-Sawyer, Levine, Linder, Lowenthal, Medina, Melendez, Mullin, Muratsuchi, Nazarian, Olsen, Perea, V. Manuel Pérez, Quirk, Rendon, Ridley-Thomas, Rodriguez, Salas, Skinner, Stone, Ting, Weber, Wieckowski, Williams, Yamada, Atkins
    Noes: Bigelow, Buchanan, Fox, Gray, Grove, Harkey, Maienschein, Patterson, John A. Pérez, Quirk-Silva, Waldron
    No Votes Recorded: Bocanegra, Conway, Dahle, Daly, Eggman, Frazier, Beth Gaines, Gordon, Gorell, Hall, Logue, Mansoor, Nestande, Pan, Wagner, Wilk
 
06/19/14   (PASS)   Senate Floor   28   3   9   Assembly 3rd Reading AB129 Dickinson By Hill
    BTC Ayes: Beall, Berryhill, Cannella, Corbett, De León, DeSaulnier, Evans, Galgiani, Hancock, Hill, Hueso, Huff, Knight, Lara, Leno, Lieu, Liu, Mitchell, Monning, Nielsen, Padilla, Pavley, Roth, Steinberg, Torres, Vidak, Wolk, Wyland
    Noes: Anderson, Fuller, Morrell
    No Votes Recorded: Block, Calderon, Correa, Gaines, Hernandez, Jackson, Walters, Wright, Yee
 
06/04/14   (PASS)   Sen Banking and Financial Institutions   7   1   1   Do pass.
    BTC Ayes: Block, Correa, Evans, Hill, Roth, Torres, Vidak
    Noes: Morrell
    No Votes Recorded: Hueso
 
01/29/14   (PASS)   Assembly Floor   75   0   5   AB 129 DICKINSON Assembly Third Reading
    BTCAyes: Achadjian, Alejo, Allen, Ammiano, Atkins, Bigelow, Bloom, Bocanegra, Bonilla, Bonta, Bradford, Brown, Ian Calderon, Campos, Chau, Chávez, Chesbro, Conway, Cooley, Dababneh, Dahle, Daly, Dickinson, Donnelly, Eggman, Fong, Frazier, Beth Gaines, Garcia, Gatto, Gomez, Gonzalez, Gorell, Gray, Grove, Hagman, Hall, Harkey, Roger Hernández, Holden, Jones, Jones-Sawyer, Levine, Linder, Lowenthal, Maienschein, Mansoor, Medina, Melendez, Morrell, Mullin, Muratsuchi, Nazarian, Nestande, Olsen, Pan, Patterson, V. Manuel Pérez, Quirk, Quirk-Silva, Rendon, Ridley-Thomas, Rodriguez, Salas, Skinner, Stone, Ting, Wagner, Waldron, Weber, Wieckowski, Wilk, Williams, Yamada, John A. Pérez
    Noes:
    No Votes Recorded: Buchanan, Fox, Gordon, Logue, Perea
 
01/21/14   (PASS)   Asm Banking and Finance   10   0   2   Do pass as amended.
    BTCAyes: Achadjian, Bonta, Chau, Dickinson, Gatto, Linder, Morrell, Perea, Rodriguez, Weber
    Noes:
    No Votes Recorded: Harkey, Williams
 
01/09/14   (PASS)   Asm Rules   7   4   0   Be referred to Committee on Banking and Finance.
    BTCAyes: Brown, Dababneh, Gonzalez, Gordon, Nazarian, Quirk, Ridley-Thomas
    Noes: Donnelly, Hagman, Waldron, Wilk
    No Votes Recorded:
 

Solar power FTW

Not sure it really matters. Lots of places can't grow enough food to feed it's population. It's not a requirement to run a country. Think of some extreme examples like Singapore and Hong Kong. It's not like they're sitting on lots of farmland or anything.

Why do you say that...it would be surprising if CA was not the first state to do that. They are usually progressive and on the cutting edge, esp with technology related issues.

The point is that it could be possible for CA to switch it's commercialized farming to accommodate its residents if they did succeed. I'm fairly sure Texas wouldn't fair well in that regard.

Is everything bought in California made in California? Would trade be impossible if Texas were to secede?

But does Texas have the ability to grow produce anywhere near California? I don't think so. I'm still curious though.

I think you're assuming the US would be on friendly terms with a "Republic of Texas".  The US doesn't exactly have a history of benevolence towards foreign nations that have an abundance of oil....

I think you're forgetting that the Republic of Texas would be just fine without the rest of the country. Great Economy (not to far behind California, but they got oil), huge military force. Just like California could easily engage in trade and has unrestricted ocean access.

Let there be dark.

You're not alone, I feel oddly overcome by my apathy at the moment actually.

Hmm... I'm still not sure how I feel about it quite yet, because despite this 'approval' I still want Dark Wallet and Dark Market to come out as soon as possible. Many forget that California has the 2nd highest capital gains tax in the World.

Why?

If anything it makes perfect sense, California is the tech Capital of the World and the only annexed territory of the US (state) to actually be able to secede from the US without much of a drop in quality of life--if anything I would expect a significant rise in quality of life--given its economy; I think most sensible people know that the US is a drag on our lives, and one we can do without. And as I mentioned before, competing purpose-built currencies is ingrained in our very culture.

In fact I hope this encourages the secession movement to progress into something more than signing a petition that is ignored.

"by repealing a provision of state law that bars the use of "anything but the lawful money of the United States."
It repealed a California-specific law.

The amount I posted is the price we pay; so yes, that would include delivery.

Though the practical implications of this may be small, this is an important symbolic milestone.
It's surprising that California was the first to do this...

when you talk about $ per kwh are you including delivery costs?  if so.. nyc is pretty high up there too.  usually pay more per kwh in delivery than the actual cost of the kwh

So does this mean that the State of California intends to accept Bitcoin as a form of payment for State tax revenues soon?

This law wasn't intended to "allow" individuals within the state to use Bitcoin; laws make things illegal, not the other way around. By altering "anything but the lawful money of the United States." California has opened the doors to cities and local governments to allow for Bitcoin to be used as an accepted form of money to make tax payments.

This is really important...