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March 24, 2014, 06:42:38 PM
#41
2m a year? Where are you living? That's an old number from the bitcoin wiki.

 They make around 30m - costs. And the costs are usually low, except for the law shit.
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March 22, 2014, 01:20:11 AM
#40

IMO, since there were takeovers using more than 140,000BTC we will see 150-250K btc takeover by Blockchain in the next few weeks, and since the biggest company that seems to be in troubles and needs a takeover is MTGox, I think there's high probabilty its MTGox they are buying. Furthermore, blockchain helped MTGox with the fixing of TXID and they know the business well, and they have/had good/friendly relationships.

Every time I've heard AA interviewed he is spitting blood about how bad Gox was and how it's good Gox is dead.

I don't think MK is on friendly terms with anyone any more.

Everyone trying to help Gox with TM (and I don't remember BC being part of that but...) got exasperated by MK's response and left him to it in the end.

 Gox isn't worth 140,000BTC. It produces $2m profit a year. At 5% ROI that makes them worth $40m, but if it was my money, at that risk level I'd want at least 10% ROI making them worth half that.
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American1973
March 17, 2014, 02:34:32 PM
#39
Also, our leaders are beholden to Rome or Israel, and these nations contain/control/exploit the drug trade and black market human trade/pr0nography trade so SR irritated them as surely as some new kid on their corner hawking his wares.

Don't compete with Drug Inc.  Well, unless you are a nation yourself.  Any nation could frustrate the righteous ones by opening a SR, let's hope it happens.
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March 17, 2014, 12:03:33 PM
#38
"The government certainly didn't steal the coins. With all the things it deals with, why would it bother its ass stealing from us via Mt Gox? "

Same reason it seized the 5 million dollars. To investigate silk road and the 4,000 vendors selling through silk road.
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March 17, 2014, 11:40:09 AM
#37
- Have the feds the reasons to hide seizure?

"ongoing investigation"
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March 17, 2014, 11:04:32 AM
#36
the Silk Road server, even though operating in a foreign jurisdiction, was infiltrated then seized by US Federal law enforcement.

The operator of Megaupload might also beg to differ with you.

The problem with your Silk Road server assumption is that it was NOT in a foregin jurisdiction. It was in fact hosted within the United States of Fascism.

That's not correct. 

In particular, the FBI has located in a certain
foreign country the server used to host Silk Road's website (the
"Silk Road Web Server"). Pursuant to a Mutual Legal Assistance
Treaty request, an image of the Silk Road Web Server was made on
or about July 23, 2013, and produced thereafter to the FBI.

There was backup server in the US though at JTAN which was revealed mid february.
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March 17, 2014, 11:00:40 AM
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These are the facts. Not speculation. The FBI together with the IRS Criminal Investigation Division, ICE Homeland Security Investigations and the Drug Enforcement Administration seized the cold wallets in or around May 2013. All who have lost coins must wait, until at least the 1st of April, the latest being the 16th of May, before considering any drastic action. After that, if the facts do not change, there is sufficient evidence to apply for an injunction ordering the US Government to release the seized property.

there is the failing.
the pastebin creator is obviously american and does not understand that karpeles is in japan.. where american authorities cannot seize peoples computer data!

Silk road server was in  a foreign country and yet it showed:



ICE Homeland security also seized the gox fiat.
IRS probably is interested in the gox tax info.

It could be same gang wanting that stuff of course through japanese authorities - but they most certainly would not refuse that like the Megaupload shit in New Zealand or the Silk Road shit in a yet unknown country.
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March 17, 2014, 03:05:46 AM
#34
Correction: RTBC is not an exchange, they are a subscription trading platform of high quality.
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American1973
March 17, 2014, 03:03:06 AM
#33
I might use some stem cells to make a better goose.

imo his 'leaked code' is the real false flag.

but the way law enforcement drags its feet is telling.

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March 17, 2014, 02:43:47 AM
#32
I might use some stem cells to make a better goose.
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American1973
March 17, 2014, 02:29:23 AM
#31
Why go for the egg when you can have the Goose?

You would eat future eggs from this particular goose?
sr. member
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March 17, 2014, 02:06:38 AM
#30

No sane investor would purchase Gox in its current state! It needs to be cleared of debt first.


Not so sure. Google offered $6 Billion for Groupon. If Bitcoin does what the users on this forum think it can do, $.5 billion is a drop in the bucket. This is not just about "making money", but also about knowing where the money is flowing. Why go for the egg when you can have the Goose?
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March 17, 2014, 12:00:29 AM
#29
lol, that pastebin
>All who have lost coins must wait, until at least the 1st of April

Yes on April Fools day you can submit your claim to the DEA to recover all the lost coins
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March 16, 2014, 11:05:27 PM
#28
The government certainly didn't steal the coins. With all the things it deals with, why would it bother its ass stealing from us via Mt Gox?

It makes no sense whatsoever.

(the first person to mention "fear of bitcoin" will die a horrible death)

I guess you never heard of the Liberty Dollar, or e-gold
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American1973
March 16, 2014, 08:57:11 PM
#27
Have you ever heard of the "art" of "fallacy"? Check it!

I only read the comic strip B.C.  .  Hahaha, they're riding around on stone wheels using the axle as their footpegs.  That's brilliant.
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March 16, 2014, 08:20:24 PM
#26
The government certainly didn't steal the coins. With all the things it deals with, why would it bother its ass stealing from us via Mt Gox?

It makes no sense whatsoever.

(the first person to mention "fear of bitcoin" will die a horrible death)

It makes no sense to you, but what do you know of black markets?

Black markets are what the world runs on.  It is why the US Army is being puppeted to run the UK's poppy fields in Afghanistan.

Anyway, I have said from the very beginning that the FBI is the first obvious thief here, since they stole from the whole world at Silk Road.  To capture one or two bad guys (sure SR had some shitheads in it making money off fake silver and stuff) and punish 200 innocnets is how they think.  I am not making this up, it's all history and established pattern of conduct.

Like an airplane goes missing.  It's so weird what a piece of shit TV is, ya know?  Like, TV is just the god damned stupidest person in the room, isn't it?

Have you ever heard of the "art" of "fallacy"? Check it!
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March 16, 2014, 06:02:29 PM
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why blockchain?

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/12/company-takeovers-using-bitcoin-trending/

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... Earlier this month Blockchain bought RTBTC, a big Bitcoin exchange. On top of that, in a few weeks, Blockchain claims to be able to announce the biggest takeover ever in the history of Bitcoin.

IMO, since there were takeovers using more than 140,000BTC we will see 150-250K btc takeover by Blockchain in the next few weeks, and since the biggest company that seems to be in troubles and needs a takeover is MTGox, I think there's high probabilty its MTGox they are buying. Furthermore, blockchain helped MTGox with the fixing of TXID and they know the business well, and they have/had good/friendly relationships.
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Born to chew bubble gum and kick ass
March 16, 2014, 05:25:47 PM
#24
The government certainly didn't steal the coins. With all the things it deals with, why would it bother its ass stealing from us via Mt Gox?

It makes no sense whatsoever.

(the first person to mention "fear of bitcoin" will die a horrible death)

Yeah, it makes no sense.


IMO, blockchain will buy Gox

If blockchain is to purchase Gox, it will be a temporary transaction, and later Gox will be re-sold to a bigger fish / an already arranged for final buyer.

Let's assume the collapse of Gox was orchestrated a long time before February - March 2014 by the final buyer of Gox. Then it would make sense for Gox to have Baker&McKenzie http://www.bakermckenzie.com/ as their law firm out of the blue. Baker&McKenzie specialize worldwide in mergers&acquisitions and in bankruptcy law.

Baker&McKenzie already represented Gox in a civil dispute with Coinlab back in September 2013 (before the supposed hack and later bankruptcy). Did somebody knew Gox would collapse and married Gox with Baker&McKenzie ahead of time?
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American1973
March 16, 2014, 04:55:45 PM
#23
The government certainly didn't steal the coins. With all the things it deals with, why would it bother its ass stealing from us via Mt Gox?

It makes no sense whatsoever.

(the first person to mention "fear of bitcoin" will die a horrible death)

It makes no sense to you, but what do you know of black markets?

Black markets are what the world runs on.  It is why the US Army is being puppeted to run the UK's poppy fields in Afghanistan.

Anyway, I have said from the very beginning that the FBI is the first obvious thief here, since they stole from the whole world at Silk Road.  To capture one or two bad guys (sure SR had some shitheads in it making money off fake silver and stuff) and punish 200 innocnets is how they think.  I am not making this up, it's all history and established pattern of conduct.

Like an airplane goes missing.  It's so weird what a piece of shit TV is, ya know?  Like, TV is just the god damned stupidest person in the room, isn't it?
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American1973
March 16, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
#22
- Does Karpeles want to make us believe to this feds involvement version?
- Sure. As well as Montroll with weexchange scam.
- Have the feds the reasons to hide seizure?
- No.
- Conclusion?
- Obvious.

What makes you think law enforcement and IRS would tell you any god damned thing, ever?
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