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Quote from: AVE5 on May 13, 2024, 10:58:18 AM

The late enlightenments to the modern and digital world we lives today has caused us setback from venturing into the digital technology systems that's how we've also missed the opportunities to adopt in investing in the BITCOIN when it was earlier introduced. Then we had no knowledge of it and the government fed us with lies that the BITCOIN CRYPTO DIGITAL FINANCIAL TECHNOLOGY was a scam and as then, we strongly believed that the government got our back.

I don't think the government is responsible for making people to know about cryptocurrency late. Do you know even till this time their are people who still don't believe in bitcoin (cryptocurrency). I can I agree that the government is been responsible for making people not to have access to cryptocurrency. Their are people that are free to have cryptocurrency but because of ignorance they prefer to go for other investment instead of cryptocurrency.

We don't need to depend on government to know the truth, if you depend on government to know things you will never get to know any thing. One of the ways to be powerful is to have knowledge, when their is knowledge it is impossible for government to take advantage of you from doing the right things .

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Quote from: Fortify on May 14, 2024, 03:08:50 PM

Quote from: AVE5 on May 13, 2024, 10:58:18 AM

Most nations especially in Africa lately adopted the modern digital technological, Previously we've been in the primitive and analog system and due to the hardship and lack of standard education, we've been trying to remain ignorant over Internet facilities and its networking was untrust due to underdevelopments.
The mentality was being too poor that our government could always convince us with lies and formalities just so that we don't get to know about the advents of the modern reality world which we're in today.
The impacts of the government towards us was that we don't need to know the truth so that we don't have them questioned, they refused to comply with infrastructures to enhance and build our mental faculties because they're afraid that we might be some kind greater than they may be and that seems as threats to them.
The late enlightenments to the modern and digital world we lives today has caused us setback from venturing into the digital technology systems that's how we've also missed the opportunities to adopt in investing in the BITCOIN when it was earlier introduced. Then we had no knowledge of it and the government fed us with lies that the BITCOIN CRYPTO DIGITAL FINANCIAL TECHNOLOGY was a scam and as then, we strongly believed that the government got our back.

That is a huge wall of text and it was very hard to understand your point. If it is that Africa was behind in the cryptocurrency game and that was partly due to government suppression, that is true. You also have to consider that governments all around the world, but particularly those in Africa, want as much visibility of the incomes of their citizens as possible with the aim to tax them. From those taxes they can develop countries further, but unfortunately this can be abused by corrupt politicians for the wrong purposes. Not only that, it gives those same officials the power to manipulate and suppress dissent by targeting funds held in local banks. This is yet another reason they try to control or even block cryptocurrency transactions.

I'm not of doubt to your view but if the government has wanted to tax the crypto holders as an avenue to utilize the revenues for economy and Infrastructures, then they should had made it clear and contributes to the valuability of the crypto system in order to enable citizens to comfortably rest upon their crypto investments.
They government want to control the financial digital system with a default claim of being an anti corruption so that it's not abuse but unfortunately they're the once doing the worse fraudulence but being covered with their authoritative blankets power of governance. They really don't care that much but to extort from citizens.

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Quote from: AVE5 on May 13, 2024, 10:58:18 AM

The governments now fights bitcoin and the cryptocurrencies in general because it's a decentralized non custodial digit system.
Since they failed in twisting the minds of the public that bitcoin was fake and scamming scheme, they've diverted to other dimension just to hinder the bitcoin investors and those vendors accepting bitcoin for payments with a allegedly claims that bitcoin is affecting the economy growth by having effect on the devaluing of the fiat.

The easiest answer to this is that the government does not want the performance built hard by them not to be followed by its citizens who now know the direction of security and switch to a new one, namely BTC, meaning that their citizens are considered to participate in undermining the financial system and weakening their role in it.

Because we know that the Bitcoin blockchain network is very helpful in simplifying operations between individuals with various elements as well as being able to streamline in terms of transactions and this is considered to eliminate many points that are considered beneficial to the government in terms of cash receipts for the country, the government should be soft also in reading it because human nature is increasingly chased more and more run and avoid. Isn't it??

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Quote from: bettercrypto on May 17, 2024, 04:58:07 PM

Every country's government tells the truth to their constituent citizens, not just 100%,

I think they are capable of saying some truth but not a lot of times. Obviously those under complete control of their government, do not even expect for them to say anything true because they will always twist it to their advantage.

For some democratic countries, it’s not all truth as well. When distributing knowledge and information, they have to consider the reaction of the people too. They need to be trusted and liked by the public and they will not risk that to say the truth

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And until now, many countries are still against Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, so nobody knows when they will recognize it as an alternative solution to the financial problems that all
countries around the world are facing.

We are close, probably. If some countries being interested in making btc a legal tender or etf btc is to count by.

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Every country's government tells the truth to their constituent citizens, not just 100%, because they also consider something that they know their citizens can worry about. And there are also other officers who do bad things that they don't tell people because they know they can be fired in no time.

And until now, many countries are still against Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, so nobody knows when they will recognize it as an alternative solution to the financial problems that all
countries around the world are facing.

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Quote from: AVE5 on May 13, 2024, 10:58:18 AM

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I actually came up with this thread after I've put to considerations in researching why most of bitcoin Investors expresses their regrets of coming late to the bitcoin industry was because of the lies laideby our governments and also why the government is being against the non custodian financial system as bitcoin and the cryptocurrencies at large is because the government have in plan to economically imprison the people in the future but was unfortunate for them that one single individual known to be Satoshi Nakamoto came to deliver the world from such disasterous plans of the government to take control over treasures of the people.

Issues such as being uncontrollable or unmanageable, blaming illegal activities or causing harm to the economy or the environment, ... are all just ways to justify behavior. Opposition to bitcoin. But in some ways, that is also part of the development process with bitcoin, which is inherently perfect on its own, but with prejudice, opponents always find all kinds of different tricks to manipulate information. The government's support/opposition to bitcoin has specific effects but I also believe that it is natural, like there is no specific reason for bitcoin to appear because we can describe it with thousands of people. Thousands of different stories, as long as we find something through bitcoin, not someone leading us to bitcoin.

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I will just ask the question "Is there any point in crying over spilled milk?"

You can blame your government, bad luck, lack of infrastructure or whatever, but you still have to ask yourself if you or anyone else who heard about something called Bitcoin during 2009/2010 really understood what it was really about? I first heard about Bitcoin in 2011, but only after a few years did I realize that there was something serious about it, and I can't blame anyone but myself for that.

Those governments that are doing well today, saw the seriousness of BTC among their youths that draw the government attention to adopt BTC, and it has open so many ways for their people to enjoy, and they are enjoying the benefit of BTC.

Government cannot stop you not to have access to BTC news or other books that related to BTC to acquire the knowledge, which I have seen many people in Africa they are doing well with BTC despite BTC is not adopted in their country.

It happened to many people, before they later understood BTC, even me, I knew BTC some years ago through one of my childhood friend that base in abroad, but I thought he is trying to initiate me to scam currency, but I did everything in 2020 to know that BTC can solve so many things from someone life.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 15, 2024, 01:28:24 PM

Basically you do not have to join them, but you do not have to be against them neither. There are billions of people in the world who wake up everyday, go to work, sleep and repeat that action until they retire, most of them do not even retire all that well neither.

I think it is quite easy to figure out what you need to do, it is clear that we are going to end up with a lot of trouble, and that means we are going to end up with good results eventually, it shouldn't really be all that hard. This means that we are going to get some results which would be ordinary, a life that would be ordinary, but you would live like most others and wouldn't really want anything more, it would be basically what everyone else has in the end as well.

Everyone wants to be something social but no one really ready to work for it and that shows why anyone that can influence in anyway they want and make us to believe anything that will be benefit for them. Making money is the only choice we have to move up the ladder but isn't really possible for everyone so they accepted it and living until it ends one day. Obviously not everyone can be rich but we can have freedom to some level and that's what decentralisation offers us with our money.

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While the government doesn't want you to know what you should know, you owe it to yourself to make sure you research the most relevant technology. We are in a digital world, and no matter where you are located, as long as there is an internet connection in that country, you can browse for the information you are looking for, and you will properly understand and learn the information that is being passed.

The government can cease to bring some relevant tech information to the public, but those details are not restricted on the internet. Search about Bitcoin online, and you will find different articles to read. Some people did not get on time with Bitcoin because there was no one to properly teach them. I heard about Bitcoin quite earlier but was not interested because I lacked proper knowledge and no one to actually convince me to invest, but today there are more people talking about it all day on social media.

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Basically you do not have to join them, but you do not have to be against them neither. There are billions of people in the world who wake up everyday, go to work, sleep and repeat that action until they retire, most of them do not even retire all that well neither.

I think it is quite easy to figure out what you need to do, it is clear that we are going to end up with a lot of trouble, and that means we are going to end up with good results eventually, it shouldn't really be all that hard. This means that we are going to get some results which would be ordinary, a life that would be ordinary, but you would live like most others and wouldn't really want anything more, it would be basically what everyone else has in the end as well.

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It's funny how we got to grow up after being brainwashed by many of these institutions and policies for years without knowing and anyone who gets to speak up many of the times, becomes the enemy of the state mostly when they have no money or influence.

The truth is always skewed and it has lead countries to invade as well as even individuals with power to go to war because they have the means and want to prove a point.

Cryptocurrency no matter how much the government wants to control it or try to get citizens not to invest in it, is a way out to freedom from government's control for many of us who have had an opportunity to be hooked up to the blockchain and understand how it is beneficial to us and our dreams of independence and financial freedom.

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Quote from: AVE5 on May 15, 2024, 03:29:17 AM

They says money rules and money stop nonsenses and once you've this money, you'd want to live your own world and just forget about the prioritizing a fortune from the government. Maybe that seems why the poor laments more having all sorts of economy blames on the governments. Like once anyone makes this money, they're probably shutting their mouths up of minding their businesses.
This made it be that crying out loud is for the poor and doing your own thing underground is for the rich.
Sentiments and segregations everywhere.

That’s an interesting observation.

When something is beneficial, even if it is not morally right, people will still accept it and do it. Money can bribe anyone into shutting their mouths and keeping their eyes closed. Meanwhile the poor keeps getting poorer because the corrupt people are making their lives harder for them. Of course they are going to complain because they know that they deserve better but are not getting it.

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Quote from: blckhawk on May 14, 2024, 12:20:54 PM

Get used to it my guy, the government will always hide things to their people, either for the safety of the people or their own but the truth is that they're going to be hiding it mostly for their own interests and to protect those interests, either you start the change or do nothing and just talk about it, uncover the stuff through investigation, pretty sure that with enough money, you can get an insider that would leak you all the information that you need to know and then spread it to the world.

Yes of course there's no option than getting use to it. If you can't beat them then you'd have to join them else toudtbe thrown overboard.
They says money rules and money stop nonsenses and once you've this money, you'd want to live your own world and just forget about the prioritizing a fortune from the government. Maybe that seems why the poor laments more having all sorts of economy blames on the governments. Like once anyone makes this money, they're probably shutting their mouths up of minding their businesses.
This made it be that crying out loud is for the poor and doing your own thing underground is for the rich.
Sentiments and segregations everywhere.

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Quote from: Adbitco on May 14, 2024, 12:50:01 PM

Believe me if there were ways for government to have a total dominance of bitcoin they could had done it long ago and currently bitcoin seems to be threat to them because they can't have full control over it and are looking for way to narrow people down towards the full adoption of cryptocurrency. I can still remember how Nigerian Government are fighting seriously to make sure to eliminate most of the p2p platform that enable the trade of NGN saying those platform are the causes of NGN/$ manipulation causing the sudden surge of price, saying the economy is dying. I was like how could a dying economy focuses their problems to exchange instead of the government to sit up and work out the economy of the country yet they are looking for whom to apportioned the blame.

Definitely they have tried everything to control it but couldn’t succeed so right now some of the countries government are bent on reducing the adoption rate and thereby banning its activities. This method to me just like the Nigeria government restricting P2P is simply a waste of time and resources. They can just simply regulate the exchanges to even get something off this.

As for Nigeria government tagging crypto P2P manipulating the Naira currency I would say they are just looking for a thing to blame and nothing more. They should just focus on how to grow the economy through producing goods and exporting them

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I know something about government lies and I can even list a few of them.

When I started getting into bitcoin in 2014 the government discouraged any involvement. The official stance was that if you run a company dabbling in bitcoin, you're most likely a scammer. They wouldn't shut you down but make your life miserable by issuing warnings, putting you on lists of dangerous companies and so on, all to protect investors. They'd make it hard for people to buy crypto by asking banks not to process transactions. They'd issue a lot of different opinions about tax laws regarding bitcoin, for instance the chief of one tax office would say something and 6 months later his superior would say that the guy was wrong and you should file this or that. At first they said it was intellectual property, then a collectible, then a stock, then finally a commodity.
Anyway, years later when most companies shut down or moved and people had to switch banks for the third time because this would not allow you to send money to an exchange an another would tell you there's a limit for crypto transactions, the government said that since you guys have so much money from bitcoin it's time to share all that and we want 20% so finally, after 10 years we have real tax guidelines for you.

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Quote from: AVE5 on May 13, 2024, 10:58:18 AM

Most nations especially in Africa lately adopted the modern digital technological, Previously we've been in the primitive and analog system and due to the hardship and lack of standard education, we've been trying to remain ignorant over Internet facilities and its networking was untrust due to underdevelopments.
The mentality was being too poor that our government could always convince us with lies and formalities just so that we don't get to know about the advents of the modern reality world which we're in today.
The impacts of the government towards us was that we don't need to know the truth so that we don't have them questioned, they refused to comply with infrastructures to enhance and build our mental faculties because they're afraid that we might be some kind greater than they may be and that seems as threats to them.
The late enlightenments to the modern and digital world we lives today has caused us setback from venturing into the digital technology systems that's how we've also missed the opportunities to adopt in investing in the BITCOIN when it was earlier introduced. Then we had no knowledge of it and the government fed us with lies that the BITCOIN CRYPTO DIGITAL FINANCIAL TECHNOLOGY was a scam and as then, we strongly believed that the government got our back.

That is a huge wall of text and it was very hard to understand your point. If it is that Africa was behind in the cryptocurrency game and that was partly due to government suppression, that is true. You also have to consider that governments all around the world, but particularly those in Africa, want as much visibility of the incomes of their citizens as possible with the aim to tax them. From those taxes they can develop countries further, but unfortunately this can be abused by corrupt politicians for the wrong purposes. Not only that, it gives those same officials the power to manipulate and suppress dissent by targeting funds held in local banks. This is yet another reason they try to control or even block cryptocurrency transactions.

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Quote from: harapan on May 13, 2024, 04:23:16 PM

So many governments around the world have considered bitcoin as a currency that'll disrupt economic and financial activities of the government,and that's why there's why there's the clash.
To me I think bicoin and cryptocurrencies will continue to be viewed with distrust by governmental authorities until the governments can more effectively monitor and control them.

Bitcoin is not really liked by governments which love to be in charge.
Bitcoin is popular with government who like reality. That total control is impossible to archive.
And of course some of the sanctioned countries love crypto too.

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Quote from: blckhawk on May 14, 2024, 12:20:54 PM

Get used to it my guy, the government will always hide things to their people, either for the safety of the people or their own but the truth is that they're going to be hiding it mostly for their own interests and to protect those interests, either you start the change or do nothing and just talk about it, uncover the stuff through investigation, pretty sure that with enough money, you can get an insider that would leak you all the information that you need to know and then spread it to the world.

Agreed with your statement but I would rather say let's not keep us occupied or think a lot of those things which government tries to hide from us because there are lot of secrets which cannot be revealed to general public and it won't make any difference in general public's life of they knew those secrets. I understand there are things which they hide for their own benefit but not everything falls in this category.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on May 13, 2024, 04:53:50 PM

Quote from: AVE5 on May 13, 2024, 10:58:18 AM

I actually came up with this thread after I've put to considerations in researching why most of bitcoin Investors expresses their regrets of coming late to the bitcoin industry was because of the lies laideby our governments and also why the government is being against the non custodian financial system as bitcoin and the cryptocurrencies at large is because the government have in plan to economically imprison the people in the future but was unfortunate for them that one single individual known to be Satoshi Nakamoto came to deliver the world from such disasterous plans of the government to take control over treasures of the people.

All this cryptocurrency causes fiat currency Manipulation claims by the government is lies to me. The government cannot control the bitcoin network and as such they frown towards it. The government themselves know that the paper money for the fiat currency isn’t something for the future but rather digital currency like bitcoin but since they cannot control it, they are now prioritizing the CDBC, which clearly shows that digit asset or currency is the future.

A little correction I don’t think it’s ok to call Satoshi a person, he could be an entity who knows

Believe me if there were ways for government to have a total dominance of bitcoin they could had done it long ago and currently bitcoin seems to be threat to them because they can't have full control over it and are looking for way to narrow people down towards the full adoption of cryptocurrency. I can still remember how Nigerian Government are fighting seriously to make sure to eliminate most of the p2p platform that enable the trade of NGN saying those platform are the causes of NGN/$ manipulation causing the sudden surge of price, saying the economy is dying. I was like how could a dying economy focuses their problems to exchange instead of the government to sit up and work out the economy of the country yet they are looking for whom to apportioned the blame.

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Get used to it my guy, the government will always hide things to their people, either for the safety of the people or their own but the truth is that they're going to be hiding it mostly for their own interests and to protect those interests, either you start the change or do nothing and just talk about it, uncover the stuff through investigation, pretty sure that with enough money, you can get an insider that would leak you all the information that you need to know and then spread it to the world.

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