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legendary
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March 14, 2012, 10:51:22 PM
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Is that you Jack Kerouac?
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As long as you get your food stamps and your welfare check, it feels good, eh?

Says the kid living under his parent's roof who is unable to hold down a job. I bet you'd feel different if you'd grown up in a state-funded orphanage.

The sad thing is, Atlas, if you go off to college, you are going to get so much poon for being some rebellious little libertard fuck. College girls eat that shit up, and that combined with low self esteem will have a whole line of chicks-that-are-way-too-hot-for-you ready to try out this 'different' guy. You'll fall in love with every single one of them, and ultimately, it leaves you feeling empty and dead inside. Unfortunately, a good majority of the knowledge and stances you held so dear will be chipped away by the real world, leaving you a changed man.

Being unable to admit defeat, you push on, burying your head in the sand and beating yourself against the wall of establishment. You meet a trust fund punk in her late twenties after a four year dry spell, and she get's rid of her nose ring and pink mohawk for you and blows your fucking mind. All those fumbley college girls with no self esteem, trying to impress you with their willingness to degrade themselves for you, could not compare to Alice. Child of two wealthy lawyers, she had gone to art school then Yale but dropped out after three semesters because 'they were all poseurs', then proceeded to abuse meth and hop freight trains around the US. Sure her parents wanted to cut her off, but it would worry them so, not knowing if Alice had enough for a hotel, dinner and cocktails each night...they sure didn't want to be known around town for being of the parents of 'that methed out girl who was kidnapped and raped and murdered and dumped alongside a freeway', so the money kept flowing.

That allows the two of you to get a nice apartment in Manhattan, the happening place where you've always dreamed of making it big. You get a job interning for a financial firm, only to come home after your fourth day of work to find Alice in bed, recipient of a three-pronged attack. You, heartbroken, swear off women and revert to a high-school state, flaking out on your obligations and shouting Ayn Rand quotes at any one who will listen, hanging out at the public library 'researching' while you are not sleeping in your car or masturbating in gas station bathrooms.

Then one day it happens; Annika walks into your life. Tall, blonde, statuesque...and she happened to come in just one day after your weekly truck-stop shower and laundromat run...that bitch Alice changed the locks and wouldn't give you your clothes or LPs back. You eye her from behind a Henry David Thoreau book that you lift from the table to expose the cover of, she smiles at you. And gets a copy of Atlas Shrugged. And sits down next to you and exclaims that she's not sure she'll ever understand this book. At first, you are wary; worried that she is a very expensive prostitute taking part in some cruel joke Alice engineered...that haughty cunt would do something of the sort...but as you talk, you slowly let your guard down. You make plans to have dinner that weekend, leaving you three days to panhandle enough to hit Goodwill, get some clothes, shower, and prepare your game plan. When Friday rolls around, you go to meet Annika at a restaurant she suggests. You've never had thai food, and you worry that something in it will make you break out in hives...that would be a quick way to ruin a date. Everything goes perfectly, and you decide that you'll play the gentleman card and not try and bang her on the first date. It goes well, and you to continue to see each other frequently. She blows you away in bed, and even lets you bang her without a rubber. On your four month anniversary, you show up to dinner with flowers and wine, she shows up, eats, and then tells you she is a prostitute hired by Alice. You knew it was too good to be true.

Flash forward; forty-three, twice-divorced (but seeing the nice chubby woman from two cubicles over for some weekly hotel action, even though she's married), making decent money as a board-certified accountant for a well-to-do law firm, living in the suburbs in a house you don't know how to maintain, worried about your son coming to visit next week (he's 16 and fabulous, and you don't really know how to interact with him), driving the future version of a Prius...and bitching about taxes and entitlement programs.

TL;DR - I am pretty bored right now.
Jon
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As long as you get your food stamps and your welfare check, it feels good, eh?
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I don't know how people can live in places where the government inserts itself in your ass every chance it gets.

It's pretty easy...you just bend over and spread 'em.
legendary
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notme; how do you registration and smog and whatnot if you go the illegal route? register it as gas and then do then conversion? I had a friend that did that with left-drive hondas and made bank, but it entailed converting the cars to right drive to get them registered, then reverting them to left-drive and selling them to the ricer crowd.



Where I live, I can register a vehicle and get it inspected without anyone looking under the hood.  Even if they did, they are unlikely to notice the extra fuel line.  We also have no emissions tests, so that wouldn't throw off any flags.  As long as nothing is falling off, lights work, brakes and tires have enough pad/tread, you can get a sticker.

I don't know how people can live in places where the government inserts itself in your ass every chance it gets.
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... it only gets better...
Is anyone so wise and so virtuous to dictate how we should travel and how we should sell and ship our food in the name of cleaner air? That is the question.

You can live without food for about 40 days, you can live without air for about 10 minutes. That is the answer.
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I highly doubt that you can safely and legally convert a gasoline engine with $300 in parts.

That does sound a bit too cheap. I don't think it's rightly $3,000 though, but even here in Korea new cars that are LPG cost much more.

$20k versus $3k is a bit of a rare case though.

I would say you could do the conversion  for $1k here in Korea.

Granted, that example was the month that the Prius no longer qualified for the "carpool lane exception" in LA and there was a mad hustle to get LPG vehicles so single commuters could still use the HOV lanes. I am sure it being California, and Los Angeles in particular adds a shitload of red tape/expense.

Still, my buddy picked an excellent time to move to Ohio.


notme; how do you registration and smog and whatnot if you go the illegal route? register it as gas and then do then conversion? I had a friend that did that with left-drive hondas and made bank, but it entailed converting the cars to right drive to get them registered, then reverting them to left-drive and selling them to the ricer crowd.

legendary
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I highly doubt that you can safely and legally convert a gasoline engine with $300 in parts. My buddy just sold his 2002 LPG Honda Civic for well over $20k in Los Angeles...the same car you can get for $3k in gasoline form...so if it could be done for $300, my guess is the Mexican mechanics that actually know how to work on things would be rolling around on giant piles of money from converting hondas all day. They aren't.

He could only use it to and from work due to the extremely limited range and lack of LP stations anywhere off the beaten path.

It looks like there are some regulations that add a premium, so in addition to the $300 in parts, there will be the labor and the regulatory burden.

Can it be done safely for $300 in parts, yes.  Legally, no.  Also, pricing in LA has nothing to do with costs.  You might want to spend a little more to get a bigger tank, but other than hooking up the fuel lines all you have to do is adjust the fuel-air ratio.
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I highly doubt that you can safely and legally convert a gasoline engine with $300 in parts.

That does sound a bit too cheap. I don't think it's rightly $3,000 though, but even here in Korea new cars that are LPG cost much more.

$20k versus $3k is a bit of a rare case though.

I would say you could do the conversion  for $1k here in Korea.
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The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.

If we could convert to natural gas on just tax credits, I would be impressed.

A vehicle can be converted for $300 in parts.  Enough people have gas lines to their home to get the vehicles on the road.  Once there are vehicles on the road, gas stations will start carrying natural gas.

Canada and Europe already have many natural gas powered vehicles.  We're lagging here.  The economics are there, it just needs a small nudge in the right direction.

I highly doubt that you can safely and legally convert a gasoline engine with $300 in parts. My buddy just sold his 2002 LPG Honda Civic for well over $20k in Los Angeles...the same car you can get for $3k in gasoline form...so if it could be done for $300, my guess is the Mexican mechanics that actually know how to work on things would be rolling around on giant piles of money from converting hondas all day. They aren't.

He could only use it to and from work due to the extremely limited range and lack of LP stations anywhere off the beaten path.
legendary
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The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.

If we could convert to natural gas on just tax credits, I would be impressed.

A vehicle can be converted for $300 in parts.  Enough people have gas lines to their home to get the vehicles on the road.  Once there are vehicles on the road, gas stations will start carrying natural gas.

Canada and Europe already have many natural gas powered vehicles.  We're lagging here.  The economics are there, it just needs a small nudge in the right direction.
I'm european and i have a gas powered car. Work like a normal car and almost every gas station has natural gas. And it's much cheaper than gasoline

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The US government is barring oil companies from drilling on so-called "public land" and rather have us depend on foreign countries for our oil supply.

if you think the US's domestic oil production capacity would do anything to oil prices, your calculator needs new batteries.

Now I am really impressed. I will certainly be researching this.

How abundant and affordable is natural gas?

Thanks!

Natural gas is cheap. Really cheap.

At present rates here, including delivery, natural gas is $6.42/gigajoule.

A gigajoule of gasoline (about 8.5 gallons) is about $35.

However, the trade off is you need 4-6 times as much space to store the same amount of energy.
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The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.

If we could convert to natural gas on just tax credits, I would be impressed.

A vehicle can be converted for $300 in parts.  Enough people have gas lines to their home to get the vehicles on the road.  Once there are vehicles on the road, gas stations will start carrying natural gas.

Canada and Europe already have many natural gas powered vehicles.  We're lagging here.  The economics are there, it just needs a small nudge in the right direction.

Now I am really impressed. I will certainly be researching this.

How abundant and affordable is natural gas?

Thanks!

http://www.cngnow.com/ has some good info.  It looks like there are some regulations that add a premium, so in addition to the $300 in parts, there will be the labor and the regulatory burden.

Here in South Korea too. We've been using LPG gas for like 10 years on all public transportation, taxis, etc.
legendary
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The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.

If we could convert to natural gas on just tax credits, I would be impressed.

A vehicle can be converted for $300 in parts.  Enough people have gas lines to their home to get the vehicles on the road.  Once there are vehicles on the road, gas stations will start carrying natural gas.

Canada and Europe already have many natural gas powered vehicles.  We're lagging here.  The economics are there, it just needs a small nudge in the right direction.

Now I am really impressed. I will certainly be researching this.

How abundant and affordable is natural gas?

Thanks!

http://www.cngnow.com/ has some good info.  It looks like there are some regulations that add a premium, so in addition to the $300 in parts, there will be the labor and the regulatory burden.
Jon
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The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.

If we could convert to natural gas on just tax credits, I would be impressed.

A vehicle can be converted for $300 in parts.  Enough people have gas lines to their home to get the vehicles on the road.  Once there are vehicles on the road, gas stations will start carrying natural gas.

Canada and Europe already have many natural gas powered vehicles.  We're lagging here.  The economics are there, it just needs a small nudge in the right direction.

Now I am really impressed. I will certainly be researching this.

How abundant and affordable is natural gas?

Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.

If we could convert to natural gas on just tax credits, I would be impressed.

A vehicle can be converted for $300 in parts.  Enough people have gas lines to their home to get the vehicles on the road.  Once there are vehicles on the road, gas stations will start carrying natural gas.

Canada and Europe already have many natural gas powered vehicles.  We're lagging here.  The economics are there, it just needs a small nudge in the right direction.
Jon
donator
Activity: 98
Merit: 12
No Gods; No Masters; Only You
The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.

If we could convert to natural gas on just tax credits, I would be impressed considering it's money that already exists.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
The solution to oil has nothing to do with drilling for oil.  The solution is Natural Gas.  We are capping wells we've drilled because too many were drilled the prices have dropped.  Gasoline engines can be quite cheaply converted to run on natural gas.  We have enough gas to drop oil demand, and all it would take is a small tax credit program for conversions.
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Well, get rid of subsidies and tariffs as well. Also fix the legal system so that individual's find it easier to get compensated fairly for whatever they may lose due to the excavations.

Since all of this will not happen at once the point is somewhat moot.
Do you believe that all residential living will be ruined because of oil excavation?

No. I'm just pointing out the preexisting non-free market context of these regulations.
Jon
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Well, get rid of subsidies and tariffs as well. Also fix the legal system so that individual's find it easier to get compensated fairly for whatever they may lose due to the excavations.

Since all of this will not happen at once the point is somewhat moot.
Do you believe that all residential living will be ruined because of oil excavation?
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