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Branko

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Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 16, 2017, 05:34:12 AM

Quote from: Branko on November 14, 2017, 10:57:30 AM

Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 13, 2017, 05:20:48 PM

all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself

Tell that to retard that made metal frame that got himself killed, because unlike wood, metal actually conducts electricity

only retard here buddy is yourself and maybe that guy that got killed by electrocution lol, properly set up metal framed rig isn't going to do that, aluminum is a horrible conductor, while it still can, its a horrible conductor, now if steel was used now that lol could pose an issue. you happen to know what kind of material he used? chances are I bet steel was used aluminum with as much dc amps as were using would prolly melt the aluminum, ac same thing, aluminum doesn't handle current very well lol hence why it was used in houses for such a short period of time back in the day:D but hey you go ahead with a wooden frame to each there own lol, rig fires aint no joke, last I checked people have ALOT of them in there HOMES, all your doing is giving it fuel to burn better and hotter. also with the guy that died there is no way to know the whole story, for all you know he was careless and didn't check or do something before touching it or any other number of various reasons why it happened

I suggest you take some aluminium and go touch 220V, so we get rid of your stupid comments, lol

CryptoWatcher420

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Quote from: fanatic26 on November 14, 2017, 07:17:58 PM

Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 13, 2017, 05:20:48 PM

all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself

You sound like you have no clue what you are talking about. If your machines are creating enough heat to set a wood frame on fire then you have already melted your hardware your hardware. Also, pretty sure no one with enough equipment to require a full rack is going to just be moving shit around all the time. The best part is how you complain about society getting more stupid when you are the one saying the stupid shit.

yet your the one making an assumption that ive had rigs burn, which might I add I have not. I'm more careful than that, learn from other peoples mistakes. heat has nothing to do with it. most rigs are using 100+amps of dc which is more than enough to start a fire if somewhere were to malfunction, and yeah its real stupid that I don't use wood a friggin fire starter for crying out loud as a frame, so yeah I have no clue what I'm talking about except its clearly not me we are talking about here, its you. maybe you need to have a rig catch fire to see the real dangers of using a wooden frame, especially when you are putting not just yourself in harms way but others that possibly live there too with you, that's real smart

Ryuh

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Quote from: bathrobehero on September 17, 2017, 11:09:10 AM

I started with wooden frames but "graduated" into using garage shelves like this:

I added some thin, wood back supports (red lines) with holes or screws on the top so that I can quickly "hang" or remove the cards (blue) if needed.

The bottom supports are to keep the cards steady.

Mobo/PSU are on the slabs - you can even make them half slabs or fix them without the slabs for more airflow.

Easy to make, makes it very easy to disassemble/troubleshoot rigs and the airflow is great, you can put them in front of each other so that one big fan can blow through more of them. And you can easily decide how many cards you want to put on a shelf, how much space you want between cards.

I'm doing it this way also, its a pretty easy and cheap option. Does not require a lot of skills to pull it off.
You get more space to use for your rigs. Looks great and when you cable management a bit its even better.

CryptoWatcher420

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Quote from: Branko on November 14, 2017, 10:57:30 AM

Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 13, 2017, 05:20:48 PM

all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself

Tell that to retard that made metal frame that got himself killed, because unlike wood, metal actually conducts electricity

only retard here buddy is yourself and maybe that guy that got killed by electrocution lol, properly set up metal framed rig isn't going to do that, aluminum is a horrible conductor, while it still can, its a horrible conductor, now if steel was used now that lol could pose an issue. you happen to know what kind of material he used? chances are I bet steel was used aluminum with as much dc amps as were using would prolly melt the aluminum, ac same thing, aluminum doesn't handle current very well lol hence why it was used in houses for such a short period of time back in the day:D but hey you go ahead with a wooden frame to each there own lol, rig fires aint no joke, last I checked people have ALOT of them in there HOMES, all your doing is giving it fuel to burn better and hotter. also with the guy that died there is no way to know the whole story, for all you know he was careless and didn't check or do something before touching it or any other number of various reasons why it happened

Branko

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Quote from: umine on November 16, 2017, 02:11:27 AM

Quote from: mittooss on November 16, 2017, 01:31:35 AM

Best is to build a rig in wood

Everybody chooses that they like. Wood frame could be good enough if it previosly prepared - i.e. saturated of special fire resistant fluid. It cheap and easy to process. But you can't ground wood frame and it's violation in safety engineering of the using of electrical installation

Nothing prevents you from grounding your rig in wooden frame...its like saying you can't ground concrete
that your metal rig standing on, so its "violation in safety engineering of the using of electrical installation"

pbuva

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I only use wood. If a fire occurs, it will not be hot, but that something else will start to burn and in style. The wood also does not accumulate a static charge, the only metal I threw out because it was unstable, the same hardware in the wood does not fall.

umine

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Quote from: mittooss on November 16, 2017, 01:31:35 AM

Best is to build a rig in wood

Everybody chooses that they like. Wood frame could be good enough if it previosly prepared - i.e. saturated of special fire resistant fluid. It cheap and easy to process. But you can't ground wood frame and it's violation in safety engineering of the using of electrical installation

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Best is to build a rig in wood

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Quote from: worldofcrypto on November 15, 2017, 06:46:11 AM

Wouldn't a metal frame be a lot safer from a fire safety hazard point of view?

I'm always looking for cheap, easy to assemble frames.

Yes a metal frame would definitely be a lot safer in terms of fire hazards. You're smart and I doubt i need to explain why.

With regards to pricing, the standard retail price for wood frames are much cheaper. What you can do is to DIY and build your own metal mining rig frame. There are lots of people out there who have used metal or aluminum shelves instead of making a custom mining rig frame. It will depend on what is available at your local hardware. You can always look for online guides out there on how to make mining rig shelf. Good luck.

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Quote from: arrki23 on November 14, 2017, 09:13:31 PM

The point youre obviously missing is that under normal operation wood is fine BUT if a component fails wood catches fire easily and when that fire has fuel it can burn your house down. A metal frame will not catch fire if a component fails and components by themselves dont have enough material to really burn explosively.

If youre using wood, plastic, cardboard(srs Ive seen a few) or any other easily flammable material to build your frames you are a moron. Its that simple. Electronics fail and when they do you dont want to have them light anything up...

Yup. This. The discussion is "can", not "will", and in the can discussion metal will always be fire safer than wood.

Plastic, though? Depends. I have a 6gpu rig in a 4U rack case, but I also have a 4gpu rig in a milk crate. It's stupid thick, hard plastic. Is it flammable? Technically yes, but literally the whole rig would have to catch fire for it to be a concern (and I keep it on some sheet metal in a concrete basement).

Now the sound dampening box for my L3, however, is built from wood. I do plan to eventually line the interior with sheet metal for this exact reason, but I'm also not shutting it off in the meantime because the risk exists, but is rather low...

worldofcrypto

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Wouldn't a metal frame be a lot safer from a fire safety hazard point of view?

I'm always looking for cheap, easy to assemble frames.

s1gs3gv

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Ikea sells inexpensive freestanding wire frame shelf units. I saw one for $20 USD.

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Quote from: fanatic26 on November 14, 2017, 07:17:58 PM

Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 13, 2017, 05:20:48 PM

all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself

You sound like you have no clue what you are talking about. If your machines are creating enough heat to set a wood frame on fire then you have already melted your hardware your hardware. Also, pretty sure no one with enough equipment to require a full rack is going to just be moving shit around all the time. The best part is how you complain about society getting more stupid when you are the one saying the stupid shit.

Go back and read what he actually wrote. Especially the part about MALFUNCTION.

The point youre obviously missing is that under normal operation wood is fine BUT if a component fails wood catches fire easily and when that fire has fuel it can burn your house down. A metal frame will not catch fire if a component fails and components by themselves dont have enough material to really burn explosively.

If youre using wood, plastic, cardboard(srs Ive seen a few) or any other easily flammable material to build your frames you are a moron. Its that simple. Electronics fail and when they do you dont want to have them light anything up...

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Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 13, 2017, 05:20:48 PM

all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself

Maybe if you are using balsa wood or something weird. Any good hardwood isn't going to catch fire from normal heat or circumstance. Pretty sure it has to reach near 300 degrees Celsius to catch fire.

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Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 13, 2017, 05:20:48 PM

all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself

You sound like you have no clue what you are talking about. If your machines are creating enough heat to set a wood frame on fire then you have already melted your hardware your hardware. Also, pretty sure no one with enough equipment to require a full rack is going to just be moving shit around all the time. The best part is how you complain about society getting more stupid when you are the one saying the stupid shit.

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I followed this tutorial, with wood, and everything went fine in my attic this summer

http://highoncoins.com/litecoin-rig/how-to-make-diy-wooden-frame-for-litecoindogecoin-rig/

Aluminium would be better, yes, but it's fun to build your own wood rig

greyday

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I use an old 4U rackmount server case for my 6gpu and a milk crate for my 4gpu. Milk crate is way more heat efficient, I may rebuild the rackmount one into a larger milk crate...

Plus the smaller one is almost portable. It's running ethos and if I can get the wifi working, it can be a mobile "space heater".

Branko

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Quote from: CryptoWatcher420 on November 13, 2017, 05:20:48 PM

all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself

Tell that to retard that made metal frame that got himself killed, because unlike wood, metal actually conducts electricity

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Check it out this link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unassembled-GPU-Mining-Rig-Open-Air-Frame-Case-/222529908628
You could build something similar. There are measurements that you can use.

I agree with others aluminum or metal constructions are more secure. But there are risks with metal too if you have no temperature, fan failure monitoring devices then you can end up with fire too.

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I prefer aluminum over wood, I invest little more, but it's safer option.
Racks are ok, but it's easier to sell smaller rigs.
Man can build anything that he wants, if he wants.

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