Gradual Investment opportunities in bitcoin world

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Quote from: lordquanta on February 16, 2017, 02:34:25 AM

I've checked many threads about the investments and most of them are about either with fiat currency or Gold. Currently many bitcoin users have 'buy-n-hold' policy for earning profit from bitcoins. Or trading bitcoins in bitcoin exchange. I was not able to find widely available, legit investment opportunities with bitcoin [1]. Something like Fix deposit scheme for bitcoin. There are very schemes and that too hard to believe [1][2][3]

Are you aware of any such investment opportunities?
What kind of investment opportunities are possible with bitcoin in future?

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1423639.20
[2] https://www.halleybtc.com
[3] http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/haobtc-new-innovational-product-hashrate-exchange/ This is already marked as scam in bitcointalk.org

Nowadays is very rampant that the scam sites has been scattered in a social media, so most of the bitcoin investments that you heard was double your bitcoin, or withing 48 hours the investment capital will get interest 150%, which is obviously scam so be careful on it. So the best investment form was invest coins in the exchange platform which are potentials.

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I think make investments into bitcoin ATM is good for long time, except trading, mining and other.
Although it will taking long time because not all of people use bitcoin ATM on every countries,
and needs much capital for building projects related bitcoin ATM,
but i think it is chance for make business on bitcoin ATM.

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Quote from: Qartersa on February 16, 2017, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 06:12:40 PM

Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Actually holding is kind of risk free!
Oh of course you can lose a lot in absolute value...
But the good point of BTC investment as holding is that you're sure you'll still have exactly the same as before! You'll get the same amount of BTC!
So you can lose in dollars but you'll still have the same wallet if you just hold.

How was holding risk free? I am not sure even if you can think about it that way. You even admit that there chance of loss when you hold. Holding exact amount is still different from the value of the holdings. What if you held 10 bitcoins, worth 10,000 USD, but the prices dropped to $100 each? Then that means you are just holding 10 bitcoins which is only worth $1,000. You lost the value of the asset but you are correct you are still holding the same amount.

I think he is really believe on bitcoin and he said about risk free because of believing that bitcoin price will always rise, whether it is going down till $100 I believe that he will keep buying as well though and wait for the price is going up again. It just no matter how much you got there as long as the price keep on rising this will be risk free

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 06:12:40 PM

Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Actually holding is kind of risk free!
Oh of course you can lose a lot in absolute value...
But the good point of BTC investment as holding is that you're sure you'll still have exactly the same as before! You'll get the same amount of BTC!
So you can lose in dollars but you'll still have the same wallet if you just hold.

But if that is the case then it is not actually risk free, since I do not know a single person that likes to lose money, those that buy and plan to hold for a long time, it is because they are thinking that by holding for a long term they are going to eventually get profits, and that is not always the case.

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I am not sure, how long you have been earning online, but I guess, it's not for long. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked for such investment. It is called ponzi scheme and they will just run away with your money after some days and you will loose most of your investment. Internet investment is not at all a safe investment because, you can't catch anyone if they run away with your money.

So it is always better not to invest in ponzis. However, you must try trading in exchanges as it is the most genuine way to earn bitcoin. Remember, unless you work hard, you won't be able to earn anything. This is true for real world as well as online world. So try for trading and nothing else. Trust me, it is worth all the effort.

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Quote from: Qartersa on February 16, 2017, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 06:12:40 PM

Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Actually holding is kind of risk free!
Oh of course you can lose a lot in absolute value...
But the good point of BTC investment as holding is that you're sure you'll still have exactly the same as before! You'll get the same amount of BTC!
So you can lose in dollars but you'll still have the same wallet if you just hold.

How was holding risk free? I am not sure even if you can think about it that way. You even admit that there chance of loss when you hold. Holding exact amount is still different from the value of the holdings. What if you held 10 bitcoins, worth 10,000 USD, but the prices dropped to $100 each? Then that means you are just holding 10 bitcoins which is only worth $1,000. You lost the value of the asset but you are correct you are still holding the same amount.

Yeah that's why.
That's some kind of "not so risky speculation".
Because contrary to investing in short/long trading, in the end you still have your btc.
People who bought when BTC was at 1300$ probably still have their btc. And now that the price is rising and rising and rising they're seeing the value rising back to its original point too

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Quote from: Qartersa on February 16, 2017, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 06:12:40 PM

Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Actually holding is kind of risk free!
Oh of course you can lose a lot in absolute value...
But the good point of BTC investment as holding is that you're sure you'll still have exactly the same as before! You'll get the same amount of BTC!
So you can lose in dollars but you'll still have the same wallet if you just hold.

How was holding risk free? I am not sure even if you can think about it that way. You even admit that there chance of loss when you hold. Holding exact amount is still different from the value of the holdings. What if you held 10 bitcoins, worth 10,000 USD, but the prices dropped to $100 each? Then that means you are just holding 10 bitcoins which is only worth $1,000. You lost the value of the asset but you are correct you are still holding the same amount.

It is true if that will happen but at this point of time bitcoin will just increase in value and will not return to 100$ value. In this manner we can say that holding bitcoin is really risk free. Among the cryptocurrency bitcoin is the only currency that has that potential and so if you hold bitcoin you will really profit except if you panic and sell bitcoin when the price went down temporarily.

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Quote from: harizen on February 16, 2017, 05:13:06 AM

Quote from: lordquanta on February 16, 2017, 02:34:25 AM

I've checked many threads about the investments and most of them are about either with fiat currency or Gold. Currently many bitcoin users have 'buy-n-hold' policy for earning profit from bitcoins. Or trading bitcoins in bitcoin exchange. I was not able to find widely available, legit investment opportunities with bitcoin [1]. Something like Fix deposit scheme for bitcoin. There are very schemes and that too hard to believe [1][2][3]

Are you aware of any such investment opportunities?
What kind of investment opportunities are possible with bitcoin in future?

So you want an investment with a system of just depositing bitcoin and will just wait for profits. Like you said there schemes that is hard to believe and they are spread out in bitcoin world. So in here you can make an analyzation that no such thing like that really exist. So what to do now?

A simple holding of bitcoin can make you good returns as time passes by. If you want to maximize that, then you have no choice but to go on work and put some time learning other things besides investing in a ponzi or MLM scheme.

Bitcoin trading will take you on the long term earnings. Just put some time learning it and be serious if you really want to succeed.

there are so many investments site spreading all over the internet especially in the bitcoin community who promises a good return.. but unfortunately 99% are scam.. so are you willing to risk you coins in such schemes? there is absolutely no easy money.. like depositing such amount and waiting for such promised interest only to find out its a big scam.. everything should and must be hard earned. so if you want to grow you bitcoin, as what harizen said, trading is a good option but it requires skills. analysis and knowledge.. or you can just but bitcoin when the prices dump then wait for it to pump.. even just by holding you coin you can gain profit. and what good about this? you hold your coin other than investing it and letting those sites hold it for you..

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Quote from: royalfestus on February 17, 2017, 02:25:38 AM

Quote from: piloder on February 16, 2017, 11:12:23 AM

The only legit way to earn bitcoin with your investment/bankroll is to either invest in some trusted gambling platform or use those bitcoin to trade some alts. However both have some risk but if you choose trusted casino and alts with high trading volume than risk of losing your investment is very low.

what is your probability of winning in any gamble you are engaged?
For how long have you been gambling?
Do u think over time your probability of winning gambling has increased?
For those encouraging gambling to acquire bitcoin, I just want us to analyse the probability of winning any of our gamble

it's always bad it's gamble for a reason, your probabiblity of losing anythign is greater and always than the probability to win something

but buying altcoin is not a real gamble like playing dice, if you by coins with a very low marketcap the chance of them going big is not so insignificant and your investment is very low risk

sportbetting also have not a high risk if you bet on the team that have the better chance and you know that is going to win

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Quote from: piloder on February 16, 2017, 11:12:23 AM

The only legit way to earn bitcoin with your investment/bankroll is to either invest in some trusted gambling platform or use those bitcoin to trade some alts. However both have some risk but if you choose trusted casino and alts with high trading volume than risk of losing your investment is very low.

what is your probability of winning in any gamble you are engaged?
For how long have you been gambling?
Do u think over time your probability of winning gambling has increased?
For those encouraging gambling to acquire bitcoin, I just want us to analyse the probability of winning any of our gamble

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In short, currently there are no legit opportunities for bitcoin related investments. This is mostly because bitcoin itself is not considered as currency instead are considered as commodity.

Quote from: talkbitcoin on February 16, 2017, 03:32:13 AM

there are no such investments because people treat bitcoin as an investment (commodity) not a currency. so when you say bitcoin investment it is like saying where can i invest gold!

another problem is that you invest bitcoin in a bitcoin related business and such businesses are either rare or take investors through other channels and not publicly.

if you know a business or an investment opportunity out of here with fiat then invest there and use the profit to buy bitcoin. that is the safest option you can ever get.

anything else is either scam or highly risky.
you can find lots of examples in different topics. good ones are investing in a casino bankroll, lending, or generally invessting in any business. for example bitmixer used to accept investors with at least 10BTC

* There are investment tools available for Gold as well. In current market gold related investments are available with banks and Investment houses as well.
* Bitcoin related business are indeed rare and that is why there is scarcity on investment tools.
* Lending is too risky.

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why would you even want that?
you give your money (precious bitcoin in this case) and they make a lot of profit from your money and only give you back a small amount and that is only if they give you anything back and don't scam you by either running away or saying their business has been losing money.
with money, best thing to make more of it is to invest it in yourself by starting your own business and making profit and not relying on others.

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Quote from: Qartersa on February 16, 2017, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 06:12:40 PM

Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Actually holding is kind of risk free!
Oh of course you can lose a lot in absolute value...
But the good point of BTC investment as holding is that you're sure you'll still have exactly the same as before! You'll get the same amount of BTC!
So you can lose in dollars but you'll still have the same wallet if you just hold.

How was holding risk free? I am not sure even if you can think about it that way. You even admit that there chance of loss when you hold. Holding exact amount is still different from the value of the holdings. What if you held 10 bitcoins, worth 10,000 USD, but the prices dropped to $100 each? Then that means you are just holding 10 bitcoins which is only worth $1,000. You lost the value of the asset but you are correct you are still holding the same amount.

Since the price of bitcoin is not stable if the price is going to decrease in $100 you should be still be patience and wait for the price increase that actually you can make a good profit.. that is why we have an option to hold it.. if we sell it when we are buy it for $1000 each bitcoin and we seen that the price is decrease to $100 and sell them into $900 you lose patience and you lose $100 usd each of your bitcoin.. Patience is always the key in bitcoin.. if you dont have it you will be lose..

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 06:12:40 PM

Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Actually holding is kind of risk free!
Oh of course you can lose a lot in absolute value...
But the good point of BTC investment as holding is that you're sure you'll still have exactly the same as before! You'll get the same amount of BTC!
So you can lose in dollars but you'll still have the same wallet if you just hold.

How was holding risk free? I am not sure even if you can think about it that way. You even admit that there chance of loss when you hold. Holding exact amount is still different from the value of the holdings. What if you held 10 bitcoins, worth 10,000 USD, but the prices dropped to $100 each? Then that means you are just holding 10 bitcoins which is only worth $1,000. You lost the value of the asset but you are correct you are still holding the same amount.

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Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Actually holding is kind of risk free!
Oh of course you can lose a lot in absolute value...
But the good point of BTC investment as holding is that you're sure you'll still have exactly the same as before! You'll get the same amount of BTC!
So you can lose in dollars but you'll still have the same wallet if you just hold.

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Are you looking for something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4UnPL6qAgY

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 16, 2017, 04:35:10 PM

Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 04:30:46 PM

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Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

Meh. No such thing as risk-free. Cheesy

Even simple Holding (short/long term) is not without risks.

Hence the primary "work" needed with regards to casino investments is choosing where/which.
(This isn't much of a concern for me personally as I already have a definite idea of the 'where/which'. Cheesy

)

Quote from: hase0278 on February 16, 2017, 04:53:30 PM

In my opinion there are no such investment opportunities in bitcoin unless those investment sites that turns into scam later on. Cloudmining sites also turns into scam. I wouldn't consider investing on a casino's bankroll since there is a great chance that you will lose money here if a player got really lucky. It is worth a try though since you might earn passively.

There is always that chance.
Again, that is why choosing where/which casino to invest in is critical. You'd of course, best choose one where their bankroll management is top-notch. (ie. Max amount a player can win in a single bet should only be a certain percent of the bankroll. )

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Quote from: lordquanta on February 16, 2017, 02:34:25 AM

I've checked many threads about the investments and most of them are about either with fiat currency or Gold. Currently many bitcoin users have 'buy-n-hold' policy for earning profit from bitcoins. Or trading bitcoins in bitcoin exchange. I was not able to find widely available, legit investment opportunities with bitcoin [1]. Something like Fix deposit scheme for bitcoin. There are very schemes and that too hard to believe [1][2][3]

Are you aware of any such investment opportunities?
What kind of investment opportunities are possible with bitcoin in future?

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1423639.20
[2] https://www.halleybtc.com
[3] http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/haobtc-new-innovational-product-hashrate-exchange/ This is already marked as scam in bitcointalk.org

The only thing that I know that is remotely close to what you are looking is to invest in casino bankrolls, but beware, there is not a fixed percentage and there may be months were you lose money but in the long term you should be able to make a small profit out of it.

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In my opinion there are no such investment opportunities in bitcoin unless those investment sites that turns into scam later on. Cloudmining sites also turns into scam. I wouldn't consider investing on a casino's bankroll since there is a great chance that you will lose money here if a player got really lucky. It is worth a try though since you might earn passively.

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Quote from: neochiny on February 16, 2017, 04:30:46 PM

You want an investment plan, like with fiat. Basically, you want somewhere to put your coins into and get a guaranteed/stable return in a set period.

Haven't seen anything 'credible' like that with bitcoin.
It's usually just those Pyramid, HYIP, or double/triple returns in a very short time. And those are definitely scams.

The most 'stable' I've found (and my first choice if ever I would invest) is with casino bankrolls. There's not much work involved with that, aside from choosing which casino to invest in and the 'occasional' monitoring. Drawback is one usually need a "sizable" amount to invest or the returns would be negligible.

Yeah casino bankroll works.
But that doesn't go without risks :/
First risk is of course to see a big player getting lucky
But you also got the risk of seeing the casino owner run with your profits! And that's not something you want xD

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