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equasar

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Quote from: 2Pac on February 19, 2018, 02:20:10 PM

So we have some coins by mining & investing in ico.
But we can't move our coins from mobile wallet (android). Also there's no exchange yet. When will you update wallet? We can do OTC trade...

Just wait.. why are people so impatient?

NChink

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Quote from: cryptoyes on February 18, 2018, 08:34:49 PM

Quote from: Atomicc on February 18, 2018, 08:21:01 PM

@ cryptoyes Graft is still the most profitable coin in relation with ICO price. today is 4 time higher than 10 days ago.

what profitability? the coin doesn't exist on any exchange and you have no idea what actual value it will have when it hits exchanges.

All you can say is that even now (higher diff), mining it using rented hashpower is FAR cheaper than the ICO price, and it was even cheaper mining it during the ICO. If you don't admit that the ICO was shady because of this, then you likely have hidden interests or could be a (potential) victim yourself. Nobody should have bought in this ICO. At best, they should have rented hashpower and mined it instead (and then pray they don't miss the dump of all miners selling when/if it hits exchanges).

You're a fan. I get it. Doesn't change the list of shady stuff I highlighted https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30565779 ... for example, can you name just 3 verifiable (and worthy) companies from the 140+40 they claim they partnered with?

We're all tired of scammers. If you want people to know about GRAFT, then tell them about the above as well.

p.s. What communication? The telegram chat is a ghost town as far as team members are concerned ... it's full of incredibly rude supporters and miners.

If anyone "official" from the GRAFT team can address some of these issues, that alone would set a lot of minds at ease. I would not dismiss @cryptoyes comments above and elsewhere in this thread as FUD without providing any "official" information, but I do fear that this is not going to happen. This teams continued silence is only going to kill this project before it's even started and it will only fuel the fear mongers that GRAFT was indeed a scam.

Prove them wrong GRAFT team by speaking up - your continued silence will also tell the forum readers of your true intentions.

-N

AxT

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I think marrying the block chain to POS and merchants is the holy grail of the crypto business; GRAFT goal is quite ambitious...hope they will achieve at least some progress, and this is not for the sake of Graft, but for the sake of the entire field. This has potential to get big. On the other hand, I feel tempted to agree on the marketing side. Let me put it this way - their guy is not Steve Job...not even close. I watched their sales pitch @ the summit in Dubai last month and I wasn't impressed to say the least Cry

Keeping my fingers crossed Undecided

wudafuxup

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Quote from: 2Pac on February 19, 2018, 02:20:10 PM

So we have some coins by mining & investing in ico.
But we can't move our coins from mobile wallet (android). Also there's no exchange yet. When will you update wallet? We can do OTC trade...

Yea that's really odd. I don't want to fud, but this is all extremely shady. I've never been apart of an ICO/coin launch this confusing/broken...

The dev comes in a drops a little sentence that literally doesn't answer anything. Might as well have not said anything.
The network hash has dropped 11Mh/s from yesterday. Miners and investors are clearly uncertain about the coin and they are doing nothing about it. Horrible marketing.

2Pac

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So we have some coins by mining & investing in ico.
But we can't move our coins from mobile wallet (android). Also there's no exchange yet. When will you update wallet? We can do OTC trade...

ifawami

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Hello, I am currently undermining GRAFT, I have managed to get some in the main balance of my graft wallet in mobile, the issue is that I can not use these coins obtained by mining since the payment and shipping options do not they are enabled inside the wallet !!! what am I doing wrong ? thank you very much for you

Atomicc

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Quote from: HSCrew on February 19, 2018, 12:51:20 PM

this project is an example of how marketing should not be done

Exactly...good project but wrong marketing and strategy.... Undecided

Atomicc

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Quote from: cryptoyes on February 18, 2018, 08:34:49 PM

Quote from: Atomicc on February 18, 2018, 08:21:01 PM

@ cryptoyes Graft is still the most profitable coin in relation with ICO price. today is 4 time higher than 10 days ago.

what profitability? the coin doesn't exist on any exchange and you have no idea what actual value it will have when it hits exchanges.
All you can say is that even now (higher diff), mining it using rented hashpower is FAR cheaper than the ICO price, and it was even cheaper mining it during the ICO.

@cryptoyes : Why You change my sentences in Your quotation? The original of my message You can see at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30581058 and You can compare first sentence. So, than You will see that Your answer has not much sense.

Quote from: cryptoyes on February 18, 2018, 08:34:49 PM

If you don't admit that the ICO was shady because of this, then you likely have hidden interests or could be a (potential) victim yourself. Nobody should have bought in this ICO. At best, they should have rented hashpower and mined it instead (and then pray they don't miss the dump of all miners selling when/if it hits exchanges).

Wau... "if I do not admit something, I am...", What is this? Unsuccessful attempt of neuro linguistic programming? You are the person who decide what somebody should buy?

Quote from: cryptoyes on February 18, 2018, 08:34:49 PM

You're a fan. I get it. Doesn't change the list of shady stuff I highlighted https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30565779 ... for example, can you name just 3 verifiable (and worthy) companies from the 140+40 they claim they partnered with?

You know who I am? How do You know that? Regarding examples, if You need some, You can try to find it by yourself.

Quote from: cryptoyes on February 18, 2018, 08:34:49 PM

We're all tired of scammers. If you want people to know about GRAFT, then tell them about the above as well.
p.s. What communication? The telegram chat is a ghost town as far as team members are concerned ... it's full of incredibly rude supporters and miners.

You represent some group here? Who are "We"? I am not connected to GRAFT team on any way, but I did not found any "rude" supporters or miners here, or on Telegram. Maybe I missed something?

HSCrew

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this project is an example of how marketing should not be done

wudafuxup

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Quote from: graft-project on February 19, 2018, 05:42:25 AM

It has been another wild experience of going through the ICO over the last 4 weeks! We are thankful to our supporters and contributors. Now, as GRAFT Blockchain ICO is over we can continue with GRAFT's ambitious mission.

Can you elaborate a bit further? Are we really going to wait until Q2 to integrate any form of exchange? Q2 spans all the way to July 1st... That seems like an oddly long time, specially considering this is an ICO that garnered 6+million dollars. It would be understandable if it was a community coin that needed donations but that's not the case here.

NDS17

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Quote from: bitcoin.dbi on February 19, 2018, 10:14:52 AM

Quote from: Lesley121 on February 19, 2018, 10:06:56 AM

is this a scam ?? no exchange = scam

Great logic Grin

Most of the cryptocurrencies didn't have any exchanges at start.
The only thing which i afraid are russian surnames in GRFT team Wink

surnames are more UKRAINIAN rather than Russian because of last letter "O":
VasylenkO
TimoshenkO
Ukraine Grin

And "thank you" for your opinion regarding Russians Grin

As Russian citizen I must to start debates with you regarding your great logic opinion but I will not because I see that such concern is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, sorry

bitcoin.dbi

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Quote from: Lesley121 on February 19, 2018, 10:06:56 AM

is this a scam ?? no exchange = scam

Great logic Grin

Most of the cryptocurrencies didn't have any exchanges at start.
The only thing which i afraid are russian surnames in GRFT team Wink

Lesley121

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is this a scam ?? no exchange = scam

Pickle-Rick

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Was hard cap achieved? If not how much was raised in the end?

Any plans on getting this listed on an exchange soon? If so which exchange and when? Cheesy

ripplecurl

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okay, now im happy again Grin

but on Delta (Portfolio App) its also listet wrong as GRF GRAFT NEtwork isntead of GRFT

bitcoin.dbi

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Quote from: ripplecurl on February 19, 2018, 06:55:06 AM

why does this have the same short? Huh

It is not the same. Our graft got GRFT....
Grafity coin got GRF.

ripplecurl

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Quote from: Scramz on February 19, 2018, 06:50:05 AM

Quote from: ripplecurl on February 19, 2018, 06:45:26 AM

it is already listed on yobit... Shocked

but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD

That not Graffiti? Not Graft.

why does this have the same short? Huh

Scramz

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Quote from: ripplecurl on February 19, 2018, 06:45:26 AM

it is already listed on yobit... Shocked

but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD

That not Graffiti? Not Graft.

bitcoin.dbi

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Quote from: ripplecurl on February 19, 2018, 06:45:26 AM

it is already listed on yobit... Shocked

but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD

it is not GRAFT. It is grafity coin.... Undecided

ripplecurl

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it is already listed on yobit... Shocked

but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD

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