"Great project. Good luck" posters, what to do with them?

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Quote from: Welsh on April 19, 2018, 05:01:34 PM

Quote from: botany on April 19, 2018, 04:44:43 PM

Is there a track of how many of a user's post have been deleted / removed? There should ideally be a track for users who post repetitively to bump threads, even if those posts are removed.

I believe admins can only see deleted posts, although moderators may have access to the number of posts that have been deleted via a report. Although, if you are reporting an account note down it's name and archive their post history at the time of the report. If you come across them again then report and include the archive. The staff can then decide it's fate.

I've started doing this for full time members and above as the other ranks are easy to achieve and would likely result in a waste of time.

You do not have to do this manually. Vod's site has a list of posts deleted by moderators (from modlog) at least for the past few months. If the staff can view this while handling reported posts, it will make their life a lot easier.

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Quote from: mobilazy on April 19, 2018, 09:45:27 PM

Sometimes it is airdrop requirement to post a feedback about the project.

In that case, report the airdrop post. Giving an inentive to post in the thread isn't allowed. I've seen entire threads "disappear" for this.

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Sometimes it is airdrop requirement to post a feedback about the project. They just want [ANN] thread to be bumped, and it should be punished. Legit airdrop would give away tokens for useful actions, like joining telegram group and following the project on twitter (I would consider it "red flag" but it just me).

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Quote from: botany on April 19, 2018, 04:44:43 PM

Is there a track of how many of a user's post have been deleted / removed? There should ideally be a track for users who post repetitively to bump threads, even if those posts are removed.

I believe admins can only see deleted posts, although moderators may have access to the number of posts that have been deleted via a report. Although, if you are reporting an account note down it's name and archive their post history at the time of the report. If you come across them again then report and include the archive. The staff can then decide it's fate.

I've started doing this for full time members and above as the other ranks are easy to achieve and would likely result in a waste of time.

botany

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Quote from: hilariousandco on April 18, 2018, 09:54:22 AM

Report them and they'll be removed. Sometimes they're banned or nuked if all their posts are like that.

Is there a track of how many of a user's post have been deleted / removed? There should ideally be a track for users who post repetitively to bump threads, even if those posts are removed.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on April 19, 2018, 03:25:06 PM

Quote from: examplens on April 18, 2018, 09:27:18 AM

I am not sure that I can understand what is the point of a trolling with those idiotic posts
If I report posts like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-pundi-x-any-store-can-buy-sell-and-accept-cryptocurrency-2212228 posted by User with shit post history
Are there just going to delete these posts here or is being banned?

jep i also was offered airdrops for that. never did that though, but it keeps an ico at the top of the list, getting more attention than others.

That what makes members here stick on altcoin bounty thread for claiming an airdrop or just like tokens free.
Maybe that was very profitable for them so they keep spamming on the Ann thread claiming token and also reporting social media work.

Yes being profitable is getting much attention from the people, I know both of us need to have money but not in a greedy way.

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Quote from: examplens on April 18, 2018, 09:27:18 AM

I am not sure that I can understand what is the point of a trolling with those idiotic posts
If I report posts like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-pundi-x-any-store-can-buy-sell-and-accept-cryptocurrency-2212228 posted by User with shit post history
Are there just going to delete these posts here or is being banned?

jep i also was offered airdrops for that. never did that though, but it keeps an ico at the top of the list, getting more attention than others.

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Quote from: Zandro on April 19, 2018, 01:26:15 PM

As you say Sir and Ma'am, as long as they are paid to do so then they repeatedly do it, and to stop them from ranking up I think that was the sole purpose of the merit system to oppress new members who are just effortlessly typing two words or three word to a certain thread.

But on the other hand, there are also people (let say 2 out of ten), who says "good project", because they believe so that is good because they read info about the project. And not everyone are.judging them to because of this two liner comment, so before reporting them you might as well check their post before this issue...

Malachi 3:10

Well, spamming is a spamming, no matter what your reasons to cover it up. If you really think the project is good, you could say what makes them as a good project, and discuss with other member how others think about the project and what about their expectation of the project. If you like the project and can say it is a great project, i am pretty sure you know about the project, even if it is not too detailed.

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As you say Sir and Ma'am, as long as they are paid to do so then they repeatedly do it, and to stop them from ranking up I think that was the sole purpose of the merit system to oppress new members who are just effortlessly typing two words or three word to a certain thread.

But on the other hand, there are also people (let say 2 out of ten), who says "good project", because they believe so that is good because they read info about the project. And not everyone are.judging them to because of this two liner comment, so before reporting them you might as well check their post before this issue...

Malachi 3:10

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Quote from: athanz88 on April 19, 2018, 11:41:10 AM

Your suggestion is good especially the part on de-rank purchased accounts back to brand new status, but how to decide the account is bought by other people? Any special method? IP?

The only way would be actively looking at personal messages which I think isn't ever going to happen and I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't be happy about it if they did. Then account sellers/buyers will just encrypt their messages.

Quote from: Jet Cash on April 19, 2018, 04:11:53 AM

Restrict posting on most boards to members and above. Also limit sigs to text only for those below member rank. De-rank purchased accounts back to brand new status.

Alright, it would restrict some users because they are lazy and can't come up with any good content, but that wouldn't stop many. Like I said as long as they can get a pay check they'll be willing to do it.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on April 19, 2018, 04:11:53 AM

Quote from: Welsh on April 19, 2018, 03:12:42 AM

To what rank though? If it's something like jr member then they'll just spam elsewhere until they reach that rank. We might find that some people will be lazy and wouldn't do it, but that's when they pay for bumping services. As long as people can make money they'll continue to find ways around it.

Restrict posting on most boards to members and above. Also limit sigs to text only for those below member rank. De-rank purchased accounts back to brand new status.

Your suggestion is good especially the part on de-rank purchased accounts back to brand new status, but how to decide the account is bought by other people? Any special method? IP?

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Quote from: Welsh on April 19, 2018, 03:12:42 AM

To what rank though? If it's something like jr member then they'll just spam elsewhere until they reach that rank. We might find that some people will be lazy and wouldn't do it, but that's when they pay for bumping services. As long as people can make money they'll continue to find ways around it.

Restrict posting on most boards to members and above. Also limit sigs to text only for those below member rank. De-rank purchased accounts back to brand new status.

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I don't know whether the moderators ban shit posters or not. But they delete the posts when reported.
There should be a punishment rather than deleting posts. Something like banning after checking post history if the user is a pure shit poster.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on April 18, 2018, 08:08:05 PM

Limit the access to section for new accounts can be a solition but I don't know if this will be a problem for regulars users and for the admin.

Maybe. But not a good idea. It will affect the good users just registered.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 18, 2018, 08:03:44 PM

This is the reason why I've put the altcoin/bounty sections on ignore, but I've visited there to report some of these kinds of posts, and it's ridiculous how many of them there are. Mods can ban the accounts one by one if they're reported, but there's nothing stopping the spammers from creating an unlimited number of them. So how can we stop that, short of requiring a fee for registration? I don't see an easy answer to that.

A lot of people who come to this forum likely don't have Bitcoin though and are looking to learn more about it. These are the people who I don't want to be restricted. Implementing a registration fee would likely prevent the spam we are currently having, but we would also lose users who want to learn about Bitcoin. Not everyone who comes here will even have Bitcoin for the whole time they've registered. That's not because they are into alt accounts but, because they are interested in the technology and like to participate in discussion.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on April 18, 2018, 08:08:05 PM

Limit the access to section for new accounts can be a solition but I don't know if this will be a problem for regulars users and for the admin.

To what rank though? If it's something like jr member then they'll just spam elsewhere until they reach that rank. We might find that some people will be lazy and wouldn't do it, but that's when they pay for bumping services. As long as people can make money they'll continue to find ways around it.

I might be optimistic, but I think if we had more people actively reporting in that section we might be able to make it more tolerable.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 18, 2018, 08:03:44 PM

This is the reason why I've put the altcoin/bounty sections on ignore, but I've visited there to report some of these kinds of posts, and it's ridiculous how many of them there are. Mods can ban the accounts one by one if they're reported, but there's nothing stopping the spammers from creating an unlimited number of them. So how can we stop that, short of requiring a fee for registration? I don't see an easy answer to that.

Limit the access to section for new accounts can be a solition but I don't know if this will be a problem for regulars users and for the admin.

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This is the reason why I've put the altcoin/bounty sections on ignore, but I've visited there to report some of these kinds of posts, and it's ridiculous how many of them there are. Mods can ban the accounts one by one if they're reported, but there's nothing stopping the spammers from creating an unlimited number of them. So how can we stop that, short of requiring a fee for registration? I don't see an easy answer to that.

Quote from: Welsh on April 19, 2018, 03:12:42 AM

A lot of people who come to this forum likely don't have Bitcoin though and are looking to learn more about it. These are the people who I don't want to be restricted.

I do agree with that. It's a tough problem, where it seems that every possible solution sucks.

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Many newbies are coming in this forum by following Airdrop rules. That's why they just posted the same things again and again. Many newbies even don't know the english language! So, we just need to report to moderator these posts. Maybe a moderator will delete those posts.

Welsh

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When there is a lot of accounts spamming these types of messages check the OP and see if they are offering any bonus for users posting on their topic and if they are report the thread for Incentivising instead of reporting all the posts individually. If you are really determined a few of them will not ask this in the OP, rather their twitter/website.

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I created a thread about this a few months ago: Patrol: "Great Project". Cleanup request/discussion for Mods.

I could make long lists of accounts like that on a regular basis, and I'd even be willing to manually check some once in a while, but reporting them one by one is too much work and not enough of a guarantee they'll be banned. Deleting just one post isn't worth it.

Quote from: examplens on April 18, 2018, 09:27:18 AM

I am not sure that I can understand what is the point of a trolling with those idiotic posts

It's probably a paid bumping service.

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Report them and they'll be removed. Sometimes they're banned or nuked if all their posts are like that.

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