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September 16, 2021, 03:46:10 PM
In fact, I think the bigger your loss is, the bigger you learn not to try that strategy or route. Except for some people who never learn but rather keep on gambling till they are sucked dry.
Then sometimes the more they learn a new strategy the more they loss coz sometimes it doesn't work like that, and still keep repeating it.

Gamblers (the addicted one) doesn't stop when they lose they will try another one to keep it rolling, until they found out that's the last bet they could do, then find another source of funds just to do gambling.
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September 16, 2021, 03:36:10 PM
I will never use the word Greatest in this part , Losers never become greatest mate that is a contradicting word  Grin

but those are surely the worst gamblers recorded and not greatest  Grin

The topic piqued my interest, how could one loss be the greatest, that should be like worse loser as the topics misrepresented the contents.

On the contrary, gambling is a mystic addiction that is always difficult to overcome, I still find it difficult to accept a loss on my $20 deposit on every spinning in an online casino, let alone betting thousands and millions of dollars, I will collapse if I am in any of their shoes, but I trust myself because I know my risk limits.
As long you do know your risk limits then it should be fine but if not then for sure you would really be experiencing some problems later on this is why you should really be aware of your actions specially when
you do deal or get engage with gambling.When it comes to losses then this would really be a very long or never ending lists since people are different in terms of financial capacity which simply means that
losing amount would really vary and it would be sky is the limit.Losers is much more in terms of number compared to winners and this is the reality of gambling field.
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September 16, 2021, 03:16:51 PM
Many believes that winning always favor the houses, but there's still many who believes that in a certain point and chance, they could take the win. There's nothing wrong with that, what is wrong is when we have a losing streak but still continues to play anyway.

Have you ever wonder what happens if someone bets a huge amound of fund, the same way as those who betted all in in a casino game then loses? This topic could help us understand why we should be disciplined enough, and why we should learn how to stop at certain point in gambling.

I've read this artcile What Happens to the Biggest Gambling Losers? stating some instances of biggest gambling losers.

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3. Omar Siddiqui - Lost $121 million
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Even as he earned $225,000 a year, he once lost $8 million in a day.
He played at the Venetian and MGM Grand while having a multi-million dollar debts from other casinos at the same time. It was also said that he used $65 million from his company in gambling. If we could think of a way to pay out debts, gambling is not the best idea, as it could put us down to deeper debt if we didn't succeed.

2. Zhenli Ye Gon - Lost $125 million
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Between 2004 and 2007, Zhenli gambled away over $125 million – in cash. He was among the largest up-front cash-only players at the Venetian and in Las Vegas in general.
After losing $125 million in gambling, in 2007, Zhenli's home in mexico was raided and authorities found out a huge amount of drug money. It's a big learning for us to always use a clean money in gambling. That's why sometimes, casinos have bad images, since movies are showing big gamblers who gets their money from illegal activities.

1. Terrance Watanabe - Lost $127 million
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Terry Watanabe said he bet more than $825 million, losing $127 million in Caesars Palace and The Rio casinos in 2007.
He was said to lose for about $5 million a day playing 24 hourse in casinos and with this, he was burried to dept. IMO, it impacts his health allot with the lifestyle he lived, that he got a cancer. As a gambler, we should take good care of ourselves and spend a most of our time than gambling. Money isn't always the solution for happiness, perhaps, bonding with our family is better and building memories with them are the treasure that we can keep forever.

That is a very interesting list and just goes to show that all the money in the world cannot buy intelligence to keep it. I suspect almost all of these players were using inherited money, at the very least to be able to get access to that sort of credit. It's a damn shame to think that one of their distance relatives, most likely their parents, had worked extremely hard to build the fortune that these people may have wasted away in the span of just a few short weeks. It is these sort of whales that benefit the casinos the most - just keeping one happy at your tables could keep a place in vegas open for many years. These are the people who should never get any sympathy really, as they had more than 99.99% of people in the world will see in a lifetime and they threw it all away in a desire for more.
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September 16, 2021, 02:49:08 PM
I will never use the word Greatest in this part , Losers never become greatest mate that is a contradicting word  Grin

but those are surely the worst gamblers recorded and not greatest  Grin

The topic piqued my interest, how could one loss be the greatest, that should be like worse loser as the topics misrepresented the contents.

On the contrary, gambling is a mystic addiction that is always difficult to overcome, I still find it difficult to accept a loss on my $20 deposit on every spinning in an online casino, let alone betting thousands and millions of dollars, I will collapse if I am in any of their shoes, but I trust myself because I know my risk limits.
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September 16, 2021, 01:49:33 PM
I think creating a list about the biggest losses of losing streak of people would be slightly advantageous to the people who are addicted to gambling. I also do think it is a way of convincing the public about the dangers of gambling addiction and the costs associated with it.

Some millionaires do gamble for the sake of having fun due to the adrenaline experienced on betting huge amounts of money. Though some rich people do it for fun, others do it primarily for gaining profit. They would rather choose to bet against the odds even if the chance of winning is 50/50.

I would look with great interest at confirmed losing streaks in real casinos or bookmakers. Many people use Martingale not only when playing red/black, but also when betting, I think it would be useful for them to look at the losing streak of 10-15 bets long, which turned out with bets with odds of 1.6 (which are considered more or less reliable).

People use martingale almost on everything nowadays. Not only gamblers, but traders also use it. If your current position lost 50% of its value, double your position. You double your position whenever a 50% drop happens. Just like in gambling it is a dumb move in trading. The idea is still the same and it is still stupid. Doubling down on losses don't make sense.
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September 16, 2021, 10:29:45 AM
I think creating a list about the biggest losses of losing streak of people would be slightly advantageous to the people who are addicted to gambling. I also do think it is a way of convincing the public about the dangers of gambling addiction and the costs associated with it.

Some millionaires do gamble for the sake of having fun due to the adrenaline experienced on betting huge amounts of money. Though some rich people do it for fun, others do it primarily for gaining profit. They would rather choose to bet against the odds even if the chance of winning is 50/50.

I would look with great interest at confirmed losing streaks in real casinos or bookmakers. Many people use Martingale not only when playing red/black, but also when betting, I think it would be useful for them to look at the losing streak of 10-15 bets long, which turned out with bets with odds of 1.6 (which are considered more or less reliable).
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September 16, 2021, 08:07:33 AM
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No, losing is still bad, especially for those who lose too big money. Their feeling will be disappointment and regret, no matter if they have a lot of money to gamble. But if they like gambling, they will not stop even if they already lose too much money. We do not know what happens to them. Maybe some of them can not rise up and getting stress for the rest of their life. It needs a big effort to rise after getting lost too big money and they can not do that alone because they need other people to help them and drag them out from gambling.
Do you know anyone who achieved greatness without failing? If you want to make money, it'll cost you. It could cost money, it could cost time, or even losses but depending on who it is, they can learn from their losses. In fact, I think the bigger your loss is, the bigger you learn not to try that strategy or route. Except for some people who never learn but rather keep on gambling till they are sucked dry.
I think this does not implies in gambling. Once you lose so big in gambling its hard to recover your loss. Gambling Is different from other professions where experience does not matter much.
Even the most experienced gamblers can lose a lot of money if they do not do money management. Greediness is another factor of high losses in gambling.

In my opinion not only big losses, but small losses are also very difficult to recover in gambling. Because indeed winning in gambling is based
on our luck, so don't even think about covering the losses we experience in gambling. My advice when we experience large losses when gambling,
we should stop immediately and don't continue playing, if we insist on continuing to play gambling it will only make our capital run out.  Since
money management and controlling emotions are very important in gambling, and don't let our greed control us when gambling. Therefore,
if I play gambling only for fun, so when I experience a loss I am not provoked to pursue a win to cover the losses that have been experienced.
This makes it easier for me to control my greed.
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September 16, 2021, 07:43:32 AM

Losing isn't a bad thing. I don't know if OP is being sarcastic but you can call them greatest depending on their storyline.
Losing millions of dollar isn't easy. It's a big thing to face such circumstance, also, losing builds you and teaches you the strategies that aren't working.
The people OP mentioned, do you know about their after-life?
Maybe they spend more and eventually recovered what was lost and even more.
No, losing is still bad, especially for those who lose too big money. Their feeling will be disappointment and regret, no matter if they have a lot of money to gamble. But if they like gambling, they will not stop even if they already lose too much money. We do not know what happens to them. Maybe some of them can not rise up and getting stress for the rest of their life. It needs a big effort to rise after getting lost too big money and they can not do that alone because they need other people to help them and drag them out from gambling.

Do you know anyone who achieved greatness without failing? If you want to make money, it'll cost you. It could cost money, it could cost time, or even losses but depending on who it is, they can learn from their losses. In fact, I think the bigger your loss is, the bigger you learn not to try that strategy or route. Except for some people who never learn but rather keep on gambling till they are sucked dry.

I think this does not implies in gambling. Once you lose so big in gambling its hard to recover your loss. Gambling Is different from other professions where experience does not matter much.
Even the most experienced gamblers can lose a lot of money if they do not do money management. Greediness is another factor of high losses in gambling.
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September 16, 2021, 03:26:08 AM

Losing isn't a bad thing. I don't know if OP is being sarcastic but you can call them greatest depending on their storyline.
Losing millions of dollar isn't easy. It's a big thing to face such circumstance, also, losing builds you and teaches you the strategies that aren't working.
The people OP mentioned, do you know about their after-life?
Maybe they spend more and eventually recovered what was lost and even more.
No, losing is still bad, especially for those who lose too big money. Their feeling will be disappointment and regret, no matter if they have a lot of money to gamble. But if they like gambling, they will not stop even if they already lose too much money. We do not know what happens to them. Maybe some of them can not rise up and getting stress for the rest of their life. It needs a big effort to rise after getting lost too big money and they can not do that alone because they need other people to help them and drag them out from gambling.

Do you know anyone who achieved greatness without failing? If you want to make money, it'll cost you. It could cost money, it could cost time, or even losses but depending on who it is, they can learn from their losses. In fact, I think the bigger your loss is, the bigger you learn not to try that strategy or route. Except for some people who never learn but rather keep on gambling till they are sucked dry.
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September 15, 2021, 07:59:03 PM
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They've lost a lot and that makes them worst because of the mental breakdown that it has given them. But for those totally rich gamblers that are losing thousands to millions, it's just another typical day for them.
Yes there are professional gamblers who wage millions but there are only a few that does that in a professional way. From what i saw in a documentary those who do professional gambling in sports, they are not even allowed to wage in any bookies because they know they are bad business for them and they usually shut them out and these professional gamblers would hire people to wage a bet on their behalf. It is a tricky game but those are a selected few that does these and the rest are just casuals .
Talking about professional like those poker tournaments, these professionals are wise and they'll secure for themselves before wagering that much that they can't afford to lose. In that case, some are just going away with a decent amount and take it home.

I don't know that there's such a rule about these professional bettors. Because from what I know, they're free to bet wherever they want but if there's really a golden rule that stops them.

I find it as an odd thing since casinos, bookies and the others allows everyone to gamble as it's nature of their business.
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September 15, 2021, 11:37:20 AM

This would be a great idea, especially for those who are about to fall into addiction, it would be a style of help and warnings of what can happen, it would also be contributing a lot so that people do not fall into it. You have not thought of creating a thread for it? to raise awareness? I am sure that if you do a thread of that style it will have a lot of support, it is a way of contributing to the forum for all those who at this moment have problems of that style, also we do not know the extent of the people who can help.


Interesting, if there's something like that, it surely gets attention and awareness,

we all know how big this problem was, by proving statistics and some deeper information about
this gambling related issues, many readers will participate and share their own personal experiences.

I's no joke how big a gambler can risk both small and big players. They are all prone to suffering the greatest regrets of their life.
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September 15, 2021, 10:19:37 AM

I think creating a list about the biggest losses of losing streak of people would be slightly advantageous to the people who are addicted to gambling. I also do think it is a way of convincing the public about the dangers of gambling addiction and the costs associated with it.

Some millionaires do gamble for the sake of having fun due to the adrenaline experienced on betting huge amounts of money. Though some rich people do it for fun, others do it primarily for gaining profit. They would rather choose to bet against the odds even if the chance of winning is 50/50.

This would be a great idea, especially for those who are about to fall into addiction, it would be a style of help and warnings of what can happen, it would also be contributing a lot so that people do not fall into it. You have not thought of creating a thread for it? to raise awareness? I am sure that if you do a thread of that style it will have a lot of support, it is a way of contributing to the forum for all those who at this moment have problems of that style, also we do not know the extent of the people who can help.
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September 15, 2021, 10:16:36 AM
I will never use the word Greatest in this part , Losers never become greatest mate that is a contradicting word  Grin

but those are surely the worst gamblers recorded and not greatest  Grin

Losing isn't a bad thing. I don't know if OP is being sarcastic but you can call them greatest depending on their storyline.
Losing millions of dollar isn't easy. It's a big thing to face such circumstance, also, losing builds you and teaches you the strategies that aren't working.
The people OP mentioned, do you know about their after-life?
Maybe they spend more and eventually recovered what was lost and even more.
No, losing is still bad, especially for those who lose too big money. Their feeling will be disappointment and regret, no matter if they have a lot of money to gamble. But if they like gambling, they will not stop even if they already lose too much money. We do not know what happens to them. Maybe some of them can not rise up and getting stress for the rest of their life. It needs a big effort to rise after getting lost too big money and they can not do that alone because they need other people to help them and drag them out from gambling.
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September 15, 2021, 02:22:19 AM
I will never use the word Greatest in this part , Losers never become greatest mate that is a contradicting word  Grin

but those are surely the worst gamblers recorded and not greatest  Grin

Losing isn't a bad thing. I don't know if OP is being sarcastic but you can call them greatest depending on their storyline.
Losing millions of dollar isn't easy. It's a big thing to face such circumstance, also, losing builds you and teaches you the strategies that aren't working.
The people OP mentioned, do you know about their after-life?
Maybe they spend more and eventually recovered what was lost and even more.
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September 14, 2021, 07:59:33 PM
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They've lost a lot and that makes them worst because of the mental breakdown that it has given them. But for those totally rich gamblers that are losing thousands to millions, it's just another typical day for them.
Yes there are professional gamblers who wage millions but there are only a few that does that in a professional way. From what i saw in a documentary those who do professional gambling in sports, they are not even allowed to wage in any bookies because they know they are bad business for them and they usually shut them out and these professional gamblers would hire people to wage a bet on their behalf. It is a tricky game but those are a selected few that does these and the rest are just casuals .
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September 14, 2021, 07:33:09 PM
Gambling is never win-win thing. No matter how it seems so, just as there is a probability for you to win, so is the probability for you to lose. These losses are actually what makes you emotionally stronger. I'm sure those who survived the loss can take it again. Also, I think Terrance Watanabe had issues with his self control. Losing $127 million on a daily basis sound like he kept trying to recover what was lost, and instead of recovering, he kept on losing more. I'm also wondering how this could cause cancer instead of health issues like mental illness.
Mistakes on here is that people do only look on the brighter side which they do really make theirselves being blind despite the reality is already in front of them which they do ignore things up until they do mess up their lives.

Losing is part of gambling as always and chances is higher compared for you to win up even neither you do engage with luck based or strategic based which is all the same.Lose amount is sky is the limit and as long

you do have money to spent on then this would be limitless.There might be known those greatest gambling lossers in paper but for sure there are ones who do lost up even more but not have been known.
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September 14, 2021, 07:08:07 PM
I will never use the word Greatest in this part , Losers never become greatest mate that is a contradicting word  Grin
That's okay if you don't want to use that word. But you can use that also in negative form and these lose have been the biggest of them all if not, they're part of the biggest.

but those are surely the worst gamblers recorded and not greatest  Grin
They've lost a lot and that makes them worst because of the mental breakdown that it has given them. But for those totally rich gamblers that are losing thousands to millions, it's just another typical day for them.
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September 14, 2021, 02:50:08 AM
Gambling is never win-win thing. No matter how it seems so, just as there is a probability for you to win, so is the probability for you to lose. These losses are actually what makes you emotionally stronger. I'm sure those who survived the loss can take it again. Also, I think Terrance Watanabe had issues with his self control. Losing $127 million on a daily basis sound like he kept trying to recover what was lost, and instead of recovering, he kept on losing more. I'm also wondering how this could cause cancer instead of health issues like mental illness.
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September 14, 2021, 01:01:35 AM
I will never use the word Greatest in this part , Losers never become greatest mate that is a contradicting word  Grin

but those are surely the worst gamblers recorded and not greatest  Grin
You got a point there, biggest flops in gambling would be an appropriate title  Cheesy. If you are gambling then you are bound to be in that position as you cannot expect to win all the time. I have lost $1000 whenever i gamble and then there are time when i win huge amounts as well and there is no consistency in which you win. It all depends upon how well you guess the outcome and nothing else.
I am sure many others gamblers losing bigger than you but they still playing gambling as they want to recover or making money from gambling.
But yes, we can not expect to win all the time because the loss will be part of the gambling and most gamblers out there do not realize that instead of still playing gambling.
If you win big, that still to recover your losses before and if we compare how much we win and lose, maybe the loss will still be bigger than the win money.
It is why we must learn from the other gambler's lesson so we can avoid making the same mistake as them.
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September 13, 2021, 07:56:15 PM
I will never use the word Greatest in this part , Losers never become greatest mate that is a contradicting word  Grin

but those are surely the worst gamblers recorded and not greatest  Grin
You got a point there, biggest flops in gambling would be an appropriate title  Cheesy. If you are gambling then you are bound to be in that position as you cannot expect to win all the time. I have lost $1000 whenever i gamble and then there are time when i win huge amounts as well and there is no consistency in which you win. It all depends upon how well you guess the outcome and nothing else.
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