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February 13, 2014, 05:56:31 AM
#28
'Greed driving gold'
sr. member
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February 13, 2014, 04:41:52 AM
#27
Depends how you define greed. Is the boundless greed that wants more, no matter the cost for others good? The kind of greed that leads to the destruction of entire landscapes, slave labor, child work, war, etc. Almost every bad thing can be backtracked to greed.

I would say ambition is what pushes humanity. Greed is a totalitarian form that has no mercy and always an entirely selfish setting.

Yes, the definition is important.
Erich Fromm described greed as "a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction."

I would not risk my hard earned income for anything if it wasn't for the possibility that I could one day lead a better life without having to worry about the next paycheck. I take a risk with what I've already made, because of the potential to make a lot more.

Am I greedy? I don't think so. Am I ambitious? Absolutely. Am I a bit lazy? Yeah, I guess. I always look for the easiest way to make money.. but that's not a bad thing. That's smart.

I am not a Libertarian. I am not a holder of bitcoin for ideological reasons. I hold it because I believe that it's a technology with the potential to be truly disruptive, and because of the nature of the supply. That is: I can profit from the success of bitcoin. Why am I not as interested in investing in eMunie, even though I like the idea behind it? Because I don't stand to make as much. I'm an investor/speculator.. just like the "sharks" I say: how does this make me money? If it doesn't, I'm not interested in taking any risk.

That said, I also "invest" in charities and organizations that I want to support for purely ideological reasons. I don't stand to make anything from supporting an animal rights party, but I do help shape the world into what I consider a better place. I can see some people doing the same with bitcoin.. but not me.
legendary
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February 13, 2014, 04:13:26 AM
#26
GREED is GOOD.

Everybody wants more. Its that desire that pushes humanity forward.

My experience is that those who whine the most about "greed", are usually just lazy.

Depends how you define greed. Is the boundless greed that wants more, no matter the cost for others good? The kind of greed that leads to the destruction of entire landscapes, slave labor, child work, war, etc. Almost every bad thing can be backtracked to greed.

I would say ambition is what pushes humanity. Greed is a totalitarian form that has no mercy and always an entirely selfish setting.
hero member
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February 13, 2014, 03:58:31 AM
#25
Anyone with a btc address as a sig should be banned.
Really? Lets, for the sake of argument, say that anyone asking for donations should be banned. Is donations the only function you can think of for a Bitcoin address?
 
How about you grow a little before making such arrogant statements?

GxqKtiPm/ywj7OUKcOERql6QP5YWPtQBi/GFCqTY0KRWEfPY6WGbEJ+tbEokKsCYe6JUxWNzDb1ZR3AKs1xMwpc=
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February 13, 2014, 01:29:16 AM
#24
Roaming these forums I've noticed a type of "passive-aggressive" greed. Can't go to one post without a member talking about donating to their wallet. Even without them referring to panhandling, there's a ubiquitous panting in every post.

I understand the premise of why we need a currency like Bitcoin. I know! The dollar, in the end, is screwed but there's a vague type of 'pseudo-liberation' attitude disguising this bottomless greed.

Greed is greed. Whether you're a Banker, Politician, CEO, or Bitcoin enthusiast salivating at that pie-in-the sky.


And, if you just happen to be one of the people SINCERE in your efforts for a level playing field? Great! But, there's not many of you.


As for now the Bitcoin logo should say "In Cryptography we Greed!" Angry

i agree so much

GREED!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg#t=1m33s

Dumbass monkey should be happy with the cucumbers he gets!
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Hodlers Network
February 13, 2014, 01:23:15 AM
#23
Roaming these forums I've noticed a type of "passive-aggressive" greed. Can't go to one post without a member talking about donating to their wallet. Even without them referring to panhandling, there's a ubiquitous panting in every post.

I understand the premise of why we need a currency like Bitcoin. I know! The dollar, in the end, is screwed but there's a vague type of 'pseudo-liberation' attitude disguising this bottomless greed.

Greed is greed. Whether you're a Banker, Politician, CEO, or Bitcoin enthusiast salivating at that pie-in-the sky.


And, if you just happen to be one of the people SINCERE in your efforts for a level playing field? Great! But, there's not many of you.


As for now the Bitcoin logo should say "In Cryptography we Greed!" Angry

i agree so much
legendary
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Terminated.
February 13, 2014, 12:37:14 AM
#22
Humans are greedy, can't really do much about it.
sr. member
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February 13, 2014, 12:19:18 AM
#21
Roaming these forums...

This forum had much "better quality" discussions prior to the May/June 2011 Massive Rally. We can never go back, the greedy masses have arrived.
ps. Without some greed BTC would be almost worthless and we would be stuck buying pizzas for 12,345 BTC.

I didn't discover Bitcoin until Jan 2012, but I do envy those who were aware of and involved in these boards in 2010 and 2011.  Even in 2012 I felt like you could find a lot of very intelligent, engaging conversation across so many topics.  The same is true today, but I think you have to dig through more to find them.  I guess this is part of the trade-off for the wider adoption of Bitcoin and certain alt-coins?  I guess as I'm typing this, maybe these changes in the quality of the discussions on the boards actually demonstrates that the goal of wider adoption continues?

I'm still a GPU-only miner, so I venture into the Alternate Currencies sub-forum as necessary, and if Bitcoin is the Wild West of money/currency, I'm not exactly sure how to describe that sub-forum.  Smiley
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Knowledge is Power
February 13, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
#20
Don't think this is a problem. Bitcoin is a better currency and prevents governments (which are often corrupt or abusive) from fucking with your money. Bitcoin, or some other cryptocurrency WILL succeed.
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February 12, 2014, 11:05:34 PM
#19
In my experience greed is one of the most fundamental emotions in humans. Maybe the most.
Another experience is that the more you have, the greedier you get.

Despite that, bitcoin opens for a lot of facinating opportunities where greed plays a lesser role.
I mean, regarding greed it can't really get worse than it already is
newbie
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February 12, 2014, 11:05:07 PM
#18
I still remember when i play warcraft i always type greedisgood + number  Cheesy

Ohh the memories! Makes me want to play now...
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
February 12, 2014, 10:44:39 PM
#17
Show me the angels noob ... ?
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February 12, 2014, 10:34:41 PM
#16
Earth is inherently rich, there are enough resources on earth to build a hundred palaces for every man child and woman on earth and if we run out of resources more will be created, there is nothing but abundance.

More often than not it's the poor who are greedy and subconsciously chose the life of poverty, you cannot eradicate poverty by making the reach aware of it but you can eradicate it by making the poor realize that there is nothing but abundance.

I chose to cling to this truth, put forward elegantly by Wallace D Wattles. If we weren't meant to accumulate wealth then it would be made impossible to accumulate.
legendary
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February 12, 2014, 10:34:09 PM
#15
Greed is not good.  Greed is not bad.  Greed is simply there.  It's a trait of human beings. 

Either we shape our societies so that greed has social utility (free enterprise) or we organize such that only those in power and their friends benefit from that greed (command economy).

legendary
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February 12, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
#14
I still remember when i play warcraft i always type greedisgood + number  Cheesy
legendary
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February 12, 2014, 09:48:02 PM
#13
GREED is GOOD.

Everybody wants more. Its that desire that pushes humanity forward.

My experience is that those who whine the most about "greed", are usually just lazy.

those that whine about greed, are usually greedy themselves.. but have a little jealousy added to the mix.. those that dont whine are either already rich beyond their desires, currently in a coma or are living off of other people. thus not needing to make money to live.
legendary
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February 12, 2014, 09:42:43 PM
#12
GREED is GOOD.

Everybody wants more. Its that desire that pushes humanity forward.

My experience is that those who whine the most about "greed", are usually just lazy.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
February 12, 2014, 09:39:52 PM
#11
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If you want to innovate you can do it for free.  If you want donations you can link to your site where people can donate to you.  Adding a btc. Donation address to your sig is just vulgar.

Anyone with a btc address as a sig should be banned.

You are commenting about a practice (having the address there, I'm not talking about "begging" in the text of the post) that most of the people here are OK with, even those without an address showing.
You are also calling a lot of respected members "vulgar", please try to be more positive in the future.

Since I helped teach you something, please donate to the address in my sig.  Cheesy
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
February 12, 2014, 09:34:59 PM
#10
Roaming these forums...

This forum had much "better quality" discussions prior to the May/June 2011 Massive Rally. We can never go back, the greedy masses have arrived.
ps. Without some greed BTC would be almost worthless and we would be stuck buying pizzas for 12,345 BTC.
legendary
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February 12, 2014, 09:31:03 PM
#9
i think the OP misses the biggest point...

bitcoin is not chocolate, which the sin would be gluttony

bitcoin is not a sex act, in which the sin would be lust.

bitcoin is value(money) so ofcourse everyone wants it, so of course there would be greed.

ask yourself this, if your employer offered you a pay rise and you knew you could meet the conditions, would you decline. no. everyone wants to be able to buy things without wondering where their next paycheque is coming from. everyone knows that being alive is free, but living is not. so ofcourse you will find people wanting money... on a money website.
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