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November 14, 2023, 08:29:42 AM

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.

Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.
The problem is that the player very often does not know why he is getting rich, I recently heard this in an interview with a gambler. He was just playing and wanted a lot of money. He doesn't even know the exact amount he needs. For example, even if he is lucky and wins $50k or even more. At first glance, it seems that this is a very good amount of money and it’s probably worth stopping playing forever. But the player will continue until he loses. But if he had decided before and written about it on paper, he definitely could have stopped, but almost no one does this, unfortunately.
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November 14, 2023, 06:45:25 AM
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It is always very important to understand mathematics if a player decides to play gambling seriously. In batting, poker and other similar games, you need to understand that the more depends on your skills, and the less depends on luck, the better. If a player makes one but a big bet, then the influence of luck in this case is maximum, and this is bad. Because the influence of the player's knowledge has a minimal impact. It is better to make a lot of small bets, and then there will be a profit. And one big bet is the same as playing with randomness.
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November 14, 2023, 06:34:49 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.


Did he go on to win the money, I wonder? If so, he had good reason for not cash out the game. Although I don't gamble, if I were the one who bet on the game and saw that I had made money from my stake, I would definitely cash out because I don't know when I will get another chance. In my opinion, gambling is all about luck; regardless of our skill levels, I can't look at the money and still lose everything.


If your friend played the game, I don't think he is greedy because I don't know how long he has been losing money to gambling, and he might view the winnings as a huge chance to turn his life around for the better. Everyone who gambles has a strategy for it and is prepared to take any risks; many gamblers have decided they will never cash out their games. Another friend of mine gambles for a living, although he never used to win. No matter how much money he has left over after a bet, he won't cash out, He always say there is hope for betting until he see the end of the game, which the previous game used to spoil his tickets. To me i simply cannot allow anything to occur to me repeatedly.
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November 14, 2023, 02:51:23 AM

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.

Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.
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November 14, 2023, 01:46:38 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks.
There is absolutely nothing greedy about in this circumstances because nothing ever happened a dream at the period of time he placed the bet.
He already decided a risk by staking with such amount of money and before he proceeded with the bet, the huge bet odds was surfaced meaning he already made up his mind up his mind taking it a risk.

Besides... Not even excepting greeds can save you from loosing in gambling as gambling has all natures of risk taking.

However, cashing out before the end of game probably is majorly for unusual bettors as a manner of eliminating greed but accepts whatever little profits gained but a usually bettor would want to see its end time as a risk bearer.

Afterall, this would have you all time to be blamed whether the game cut you all off because you didn't place and early cash out order or you cashed out a half way and the game played fully at the end of it.
I love meeting with the bottom lines of what I started so I am definitely letting the game all play let what gat to be to be.
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November 14, 2023, 01:23:46 AM
I can consider this being greedy if the gambler used money that was not his own to stake in that game, and he is already making a huge profit but doesn't want to cash out. Also, I will consider this greedy if the gambler used only $1 to stake in that game and has about $2k to cash out but refuses to.
It was still greed because he only used a small amount of money to place the bet but he rejected the winnings that were already in front of him by not cashing out because he still expected to get the full winnings. He should have been able to take the money and withdraw it to his account so he could celebrate his win even if he didn't complete the bet. But that meant more than him still waiting until the match was over so he could get all the money. Of course, it can wait until the match is over, but he should also be able to realize that he has bet with little money money and can get quite a lot of money. So he shouldn't be greedy to get more. He can also still bet on other matches and still have a chance to get another big win.

Yes, because of the greed in him, he didn't immediately take the opportunity to take the money in front of his eyes, because he hoped that if he bet again, the money would be more.

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.
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November 14, 2023, 12:55:25 AM
I can consider this being greedy if the gambler used money that was not his own to stake in that game, and he is already making a huge profit but doesn't want to cash out. Also, I will consider this greedy if the gambler used only $1 to stake in that game and has about $2k to cash out but refuses to.
It was still greed because he only used a small amount of money to place the bet but he rejected the winnings that were already in front of him by not cashing out because he still expected to get the full winnings. He should have been able to take the money and withdraw it to his account so he could celebrate his win even if he didn't complete the bet. But that meant more than him still waiting until the match was over so he could get all the money. Of course, it can wait until the match is over, but he should also be able to realize that he has bet with little money money and can get quite a lot of money. So he shouldn't be greedy to get more. He can also still bet on other matches and still have a chance to get another big win.
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November 13, 2023, 07:14:59 PM
Well, @Orpichukwu, there are people who have millions of dollars to risk in gambling or in any investment. These people don't consider their decisions to be greed but they do see it as a way to make more money. They are also not too concerned if they lose money, and the reason is because they have more money and they believe they will luckily have one bet that can help them recover their losses. So, to them, it's a risk and not greed, but if you look at it from your own perspective, because you don't actually have that much money to waste, you will likely see it as greedy.

I can consider this being greedy if the gambler used money that was not his own to stake in that game, and he is already making a huge profit but doesn't want to cash out. Also, I will consider this greedy if the gambler used only $1 to stake in that game and has about $2k to cash out but refuses to.

Although that game seems to have a small odd, the possibility of winning is higher than the chance of losing.
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November 13, 2023, 12:16:00 PM

Yeah risk can be good and bad at the same time,  but what is most important is to take calculated risk because that is the only way you be make something good out of the risk,  and for that, if you take risk for just risks sake truly it will end in regret because chances are there that you will make a wrong choice along the line regardless of what the outcome of the risk may be.

First, for a reasonable person,  there is no risk if it is not calculated and for such in some cases you select the risk you take and I think that is the smartest way to handle risks

The risk was the essential in the gambling site,the risk is the icon of the gambling.The famous thinkers had mentioned about the gambling without risk is like human body without the soul.So the risk alone made the gambler to made the big win in the gambling site.The gambler should not allow their greedy to get into the gambling betting based on their continuous win in the gambling site.The big risking gambler had made their big win in the history of the gambler over a decade.The gambler who allow the greediness will badly allow their emotion to the gambling betting without their own knowledge,So finally he had loss the money in the gambling.
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November 13, 2023, 12:11:47 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.


And again, not all risks are profitable, some risks some people take are very stupid and uncalculated risks, even if they end up making something good from such risk, it's only by luck, some will call it grace.

But what i do know is that, 99 percent of stupid and uncalculated risks always end up on losses and disaster for the risk taker, so even though it's good to take risk, as we cannot succeed without taking some level of risk, it is also very important that we mind the type of risk we take, else, we end up losing the little we have managed to gather over the years or period of time.

Yeah, risk can be good and bad at the same time,  but what is most important is to take calculated risks because that is the only way you can make something good out of the risk,  and for that, if you take risks for just risks sake truly it will end in regret because chances are there that you will make a wrong choice along the line regardless of what the outcome of the risk may be.

First, for a reasonable person,  there is no risk if it is not calculated and for such in some cases you select the risk you take and I think that is the smartest way to handle risks,  I can not really relate anything to grace when it comes to risk and any uncalculated risk for me is stupidity and the gambler need to be checked because courtesy demands that,  be for you take any risk,  you have to take and carry out. Foisic evaluation of the whole process and make sure you know what you are opting into before you take the risk but anything outside that,  is not a smart way to act.
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November 13, 2023, 12:11:30 PM

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.

Basically, greed is shared by all humans, even if we relate it to gambling. and we are well aware that greed is something that is not good and is not even worth emulating. the problem is, what is the difference between greed and risk in this thread. Honestly, I don't get the essence. When we discuss gambling, we cannot say that every gambler who bets with a large bankroll is a greedy gambler. because, it all depends on a person's ability and how much he can afford to lose. Plus, gamblers who gamble with high bankrolls are well aware of the risks.

In this phase, greed and risk become a part that is biased and confused from my personal point of view. I mean, referring to the thread of this post. but referring to what you said in this post, we agree and there is nothing wrong with that. that is a very bad habit. and the most appropriate point to describe greed is, we will be hungry to win more than average.
But on the gambling side, in fact this is a very common thing. We are gamblers, you will try to get the maximum limit of your winnings. after that, you will be more interested in getting more results. and that's natural, because we know very well that gambling requires capital and contains risks. so what it should be, I think this depends on how we look at it. if we think from the negative side, then the results will be negative. But if we think from the gambling side, then this is a risk. If you don't want to take risks the answer is simple, just stay away from gambling.

In your second paragraph, you seem to be capitalizing on risk. There’s a difference between risk and greed (which is why this thread was even created). We all know gambling is a risk but gambling isn’t greed. There’s a way you gamble and it doesn’t give off risk but then it gives off greed. And someone who is greedy is bound to lose a lot in gambling. Because as a gambler, you should know when to have enough. You should have targets, you shouldn’t take unnecessary risks. Additionally, Gambling isn’t bad if you do it responsibly.
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November 13, 2023, 11:09:04 AM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.

As long as we are able to bear all the risks, including large losses in betting or gambling. As long as we are able to accept these things, then it is not something serious enough. And what becomes troublesome is when someone pretends to be brave enough to bet a large enough amount, but when he loses he immediately regrets it and accuses the gambling site he visited of not behaving fairly.

And we need to understand carefully that there is not much difference between being brave and being careless. Someone who has more courage in placing bets, not only dares to bet large amounts but also dares to take risks.
While gamblers are careless. They dare to bet large amounts, but they don't want to bear the risks they will face and are unable to accept the reality if they lose in making the bet.

So it would be better if when gambling, we only bet on the amount we are ready to lose.
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November 13, 2023, 10:58:15 AM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.
Sorry, but i will have to disagree with you even though i still very much respect your opinion, no one in this world is always right with every decision they make, not me, not you, not the next person reading this, no one anywhere is 100 percent perfect in making decisions, we all just make decisions based on how we feel about something, or what we think about that situation or problem, or whatever we need to make or take a decision on, and as well, resolve to bear whatever be the result of that decision we took.

And again, not all risks are profitable, some risks some people take are very stupid and uncalculated risks, even if they end up making something good from such risk, it's only by luck, some will call it grace.

But what i do know is that, 99 percent of stupid and uncalculated risks always end up on losses and disaster for the risk taker, so even though it's good to take risk, as we cannot succeed without taking some level of risk, it is also very important that we mind the type of risk we take, else, we end up losing the little we have managed to gather over the years or period of time.
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November 13, 2023, 10:47:17 AM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.

Yes that's true but on the other hand you have to be able to see first in what case you take a big risk to get something bigger, if you do that way in gambling then honestly I really wouldn't advise that way to anyone, because it's clear that everything goes randomly for the problem of the final result, and also besides being very dependent on luck you also can't be sure whether you will be able to win or not in your session this time. That's why it's important to consider everything, try not to do things that you shouldn't do.

It's true that it all depends on the person's decision, but I personally think it's very unreasonable if they choose/decide something that is beyond their ability, such as taking a big risk just because there is a greater chance of winning, but on the other hand it must be remembered that it is nothing more than a chance and is still uncertain. So yes, it's better not to overdo it in gambling and also yes it's true that if you have won then it's better to just take it and enjoy the results of the victory, there's nothing wrong with enjoying your victory once in a while.

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November 13, 2023, 10:27:10 AM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.
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November 13, 2023, 10:09:45 AM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.

Being greedy in the gambling is the positive one in the gambling,because by the greedy we can make the high target as compared to the normal gamblers.The risk of the dollars alone make you made the big win in the gambling,but you should understand risk of the dollars also made you loss.But the gambler will not see the loss in the gambling,because they know themselves the gambling will give the gambler return with more dollars in the same gambling game.Some gambler think the greedy will make the gambler loss the full money,their is the risk of the dollars.But we are not going to share the gambling sites our profit from the gambling sites.

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.
When a gambler becomes reckless it is difficult to bring him back. The reckless gamblers will loss his entire bankroll. There is both greed and risk involved in gambling, but reducing as much as greed and risk will reduce the amount of loss. The more some one greedy, the more gambler gets out of control from gambling. At that point a gambler will naturally exceed his gambling limit. Which will completely destroy his gambling. So the gambler must stay away from being overly greedy and responsible gambling must avoid excessive gambling.
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November 13, 2023, 09:21:30 AM
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When gambling becomes greedy an impossible and uncontrollable need for gambling is created in the mind. It can be seen to have long lasting effects on any aspect of personal family social or economic. Although many people do not understand it themselves the harmful aspects that can be observed are the problem or destruction of relationships with people apart from the debtor. Financial problems Legal problems Losing a job or being looked down upon at work intoxication or getting involved in various criminal circles.
this scenario you are talking about may be more indicative of an early sign of addiction than previously experiencing greed and an uncontrolled gambler indulges in greed and loses more and then he will feel regret but continue to gamble with the aim of chasing his losses and regret it again until in the end he feels frustrated. and doing other things that are detrimental to themselves, such as getting drunk and when they come home feeling sorry and their thoughts are influenced by alcohol, they often end up getting angry with their family.
In this case, greed is the beginning of addiction. If you cannot ignore your greed, a gambler will slowly turn into a bad addict.
Becoming greedy in gambling is a sign of addiction once the greed works in them after winning then they bet to get more and gradually it becomes addiction. When gambling consumes a person's thoughts actions behaviors and behaviors even after repeated attempts they cannot be stopped from doing so. Then they harm themselves and get involved in various evil deeds the addicted person wants to satisfy those needs at any cost and wants to gamble do not act without feeling regret later.
Gambling and greed are integral parts of each other. This has all been studied for a long time and gambling sites make money on people’s weaknesses, although it all looks as if the person himself makes the decision and presses the last button. And when he loses, which happens much more often than when he wins, he feels guilty. This is simply a game with the player's feelings. But there are those who reach the top, they are professionals, they control themselves and their emotions, of course this is very difficult to achieve, I couldn’t do that.
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November 13, 2023, 09:02:06 AM
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It is very difficult not to do things like that as you say, because generally at least when I was a rookie I always made the mistake of chasing my losses and what I gained was more losses, so in this order of ideas we are the people who are more responsible in every sense for what we do and what we can do later, so sometimes without meaning to but out of mere instinct we seek to correct errors immediately and in a casino we seek to correct or put everything back on the ground of obtaining again winnings to recover what was lost, well that does not apply, because mainly when things are very hard in a casino, people resort to returning to recover what they have lost and that is the main reason in some cases that addiction exists, copsa Which seems a little silly to me because a person who is in a casino must understand how things and the money work there, this is something that can be quite understandable.

When a person enters a casino, they must be clear about what they can do, but they must also understand the fact that the house always wins, that the fact of putting a lot of money in a casino does not guarantee that they have to win because they put in a lot, The casino has its own way of obtaining profits, this is why we are always going to make the difference, each time we go to play we must understand this, apart from making our own plan, the last thing to do is :

1.Have a total balance to lose.

2.- Have an autocontrol, the autocontrol must go from the first moment you register or enter a game and bet responsibly because you are not going to bet everything in a single shot, because it is easier to do without anything.

These are also things that the rest of us should learn, there is no other way , for me it is very important that a person educate themselves before entering a casino, and thus avoid losing money Unnecessarily.

The house always wins, and knowing this is half the battle. You're right about self-control. A plan, loss budget, and clear brain are crucial when entering a casino. Its about gambling psychology, not simply money. The beginner mistake of chasing losses is a common trap. Human nature, yes? We want to correct our mistakes right away to reclaim what we lost. This inclination can be our demise in a casino. Recovery typically increases losses, making it a pseudo-problem. The true issue? Understanding gaming is more important than recovering losses. Before entering a casino, educate yourself. Knowing the chances, risks, and self-control can make all the difference. wise money management includes wise judgments and emotions. Gambling should be fun, not profitable. The true win is keeping things entertaining and within control, right?
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November 13, 2023, 06:26:35 AM
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When gambling becomes greedy an impossible and uncontrollable need for gambling is created in the mind. It can be seen to have long lasting effects on any aspect of personal family social or economic. Although many people do not understand it themselves the harmful aspects that can be observed are the problem or destruction of relationships with people apart from the debtor. Financial problems Legal problems Losing a job or being looked down upon at work intoxication or getting involved in various criminal circles.
this scenario you are talking about may be more indicative of an early sign of addiction than previously experiencing greed and an uncontrolled gambler indulges in greed and loses more and then he will feel regret but continue to gamble with the aim of chasing his losses and regret it again until in the end he feels frustrated. and doing other things that are detrimental to themselves, such as getting drunk and when they come home feeling sorry and their thoughts are influenced by alcohol, they often end up getting angry with their family.
In this case, greed is the beginning of addiction. If you cannot ignore your greed, a gambler will slowly turn into a bad addict.
Becoming greedy in gambling is a sign of addiction once the greed works in them after winning then they bet to get more and gradually it becomes addiction. When gambling consumes a person's thoughts actions behaviors and behaviors even after repeated attempts they cannot be stopped from doing so. Then they harm themselves and get involved in various evil deeds the addicted person wants to satisfy those needs at any cost and wants to gamble do not act without feeling regret later.
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November 13, 2023, 05:57:19 AM

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.

Basically, greed is shared by all humans, even if we relate it to gambling. and we are well aware that greed is something that is not good and is not even worth emulating. the problem is, what is the difference between greed and risk in this thread. Honestly, I don't get the essence. When we discuss gambling, we cannot say that every gambler who bets with a large bankroll is a greedy gambler. because, it all depends on a person's ability and how much he can afford to lose. Plus, gamblers who gamble with high bankrolls are well aware of the risks.

In this phase, greed and risk become a part that is biased and confused from my personal point of view. I mean, referring to the thread of this post. but referring to what you said in this post, we agree and there is nothing wrong with that. that is a very bad habit. and the most appropriate point to describe greed is, we will be hungry to win more than average.
But on the gambling side, in fact this is a very common thing. We are gamblers, you will try to get the maximum limit of your winnings. after that, you will be more interested in getting more results. and that's natural, because we know very well that gambling requires capital and contains risks. so what it should be, I think this depends on how we look at it. if we think from the negative side, then the results will be negative. But if we think from the gambling side, then this is a risk. If you don't want to take risks the answer is simple, just stay away from gambling.
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