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Quote from: banks38 on July 26, 2018, 03:01:41 PM

Gordon Gekko said Greed is good!

I do believe the emotions of greed does play a huge role in how the market works and evolves. It's why trading is damn near impossible on a smaller time level because your dealing with thousands of emotions splattering against the market at any given second.

I agree.Too many people here trade for their own benefits without even considering the right timing to trade.Greed is one of the factors that urges them to go on trading even when the market condition is not good,so as a result they tend to make less profits and even others end up failed.

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Yeah that is one of the way to trick newbie to do panic sell, its often happen in the crypto world, but its only work for the newbie, for the experience traders and investors, we don't directly believe the news, we always check the truth before decide what we are going to do with our investment, spreading hoax news to cause panic sell indicates that people's greed know no boundaries

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Quote from: Awesomus Maximus on July 26, 2018, 09:58:30 AM

If you as an individual are led by greed when you go to trade, chances are you won't go far. However, I think you are right when you say that there is market manipulation. Market manipulation is usually done on an institutional level, taking advantage of the small investors. Whether or not you can call this greed, I don't know. The whales are simply doing business, and they just use the fact that the crypto markets are not regulated enough. So they get by with all sorts of shady things while making money.

It is true that greediness will lead to market manipulation, because of the people who are not good in dealing with their funds, they have no mindset in giving the market an opportunity to have its thing.

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It is true that if the human feels greediness, like here in bitcoin activities , he want that he will always be the one benefitted, so this whales and sharks holders will find a way to manipulate the market.

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Gordon Gekko said Greed is good!

I do believe the emotions of greed does play a huge role in how the market works and evolves. It's why trading is damn near impossible on a smaller time level because your dealing with thousands of emotions splattering against the market at any given second.

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Sorry, but you are not going to change this reality. There will be always people causing the chaos to be benefited, especially on the financial market where speculation and unscrupulousness are a must. The point is that the risks are clear for all and if you don't agree, better to stay away.

It doesn't mean a common, innocent investor can't take advantage from this scenario. Invest money you can afford to lose, don't be greedy like the ones you criticize and withdraw your profits often to another investment, a solid one. This way you build your patrimony avoiding the risks and protecting yourself against manipulation.

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Crypto industry is not much mature yet, most investors/traders are lacking knowledge and trade based on emotional decisions taken when the market is either booming up or doing down straight. Ultimately they lose money and the well informed investors grabs the oppprtunity to earn more from the mistakes of newbies.

So greediness can't do much to the market if you're a small scale investor but surely people would lose money if they keep trading based on sentiments and not on research and knowledge.

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

Those that have the power to manipulate the markets are going to use it, even if they do not want to use it they cannot avoid to manipulate the markets even if they wanted, if a group of rich people with tens of billions of dollars suddenly decided to invest in this market that will obviously make the price to go up, so they are manipulating the markets but no one complains when that happens because they earn money, but people with that kind of capital may decide to short bitcoin or to sell their coins and this will make the price to go down and that is when everyone complains.

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And how else to earn, only playing on the feelings of people, in this case on fear all lose.

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If you as an individual are led by greed when you go to trade, chances are you won't go far. However, I think you are right when you say that there is market manipulation. Market manipulation is usually done on an institutional level, taking advantage of the small investors. Whether or not you can call this greed, I don't know. The whales are simply doing business, and they just use the fact that the crypto markets are not regulated enough. So they get by with all sorts of shady things while making money.

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

This is how cryptocurrencies incounter price decreasing because of some greedy people they want to manipulate the price of crypto in the market. Most of them are the big whales who buy a big volume of coins in a very low price and then they it right away when they see the price starting to increase.

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Yes, such things happen sometimes but we should understand that it is impossible to do if you have small amount of money so only "big traders" or funds can manipulate a market price. It is much easier to manipulate assets which are small capitalized and of course such a manipulation is very profitable but it is quite dangerous and it is possible that it is out of law

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

a disadvantage that makes many countries rethink to legalize bitcoin and some other transactional efforts, the existence of price manipulation that will harm many bitcoin users, generally for everyone and especially for the users themselves from the small circle.

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

Only in this way does the economy survive in the whole world, this is obvious.

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Quote from: harizen on July 26, 2018, 06:30:25 AM

Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

Let's say the market is "manipulated" as say by the others then who will have to adjust in that kind of situation? Of course the trader itself.

Let those inexperienced people feel the actual risks of doing trading so that in the future they will now know how to deal with it.

Being feared and panicked can't be blamed to the actual behavior of the market. It should be control by the trader itself so build experienced.

Exactly, it should be learned by inexperienced traders they have to be open minded in terms of protecting their money, greedy people are mostly the victims of the whales inside this industry, they tend to play thinking that they will be able to keep achieving their goals but we should remember that whales are more experienced and matured so it's not greediness from their part but already an skills which been enhance from time to time.

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

I guess that's not a form of market manipulation if they buy cheaply and sell for a high price, they just want big profits. Hi, friend? whether you want to sell your token at a low price with little profit. I think only a few people like that.

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

I think that this is only specific to some markets only, like the small altcoins where they pump their price so that people invest in it and than dump it, but it is no enough to manipulate it, they need a lot more than that to influence others, like they go on social media and forums and start claiming that the coin that they are ting in is hood and will go big, and people who are new to this will believe them and that is how they manipulate the market.

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

Let's say the market is "manipulated" as say by the others then who will have to adjust in that kind of situation? Of course the trader itself.

Let those inexperienced people feel the actual risks of doing trading so that in the future they will now know how to deal with it.

Being feared and panicked can't be blamed to the actual behavior of the market. It should be control by the trader itself so build experienced.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on July 25, 2018, 09:04:01 AM

it is not just greed that leads to market manipulation it is at least 10 other factors that lead to it and then greed enters and makes it easier. otherwise the manipulators are using their large funds and the small size of the market to pump and dump altcoins for instance. then they are using the fact that the market is filled with newbies who are lazy but want money so the pump and dump groups shape up which end up with scamming these newbies.

Lot of truth in this post. Actually its true that there are many people who go crazy about creating these pump and dump groups. No one knows who and how they have created this groups and they just keep posting XYZ coin will be pumped to the moon and unfortunately people does follow them and when the prices are too high then these groups creators will sell it immediately and people keep watching their loss up front. Lolz.
Sometimes I believe that whales are playing these kind of stuff over big coins too like ETH and BTC. May be all the ups and downs are being created by them only.

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Quote from: jayyen on July 24, 2018, 04:18:36 PM

Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.

I don't think buying cheap and selling high later amounfs to greed and manipulating the market. Anyone can fall in that category because at the time of buying low, you are taking enormous risk only few people will take as you don't know for certain whether the coin would not even make it to the future where you get to sell at an higher price. Eventually, when you manage to sell, someone who is buying is also taking the risk you took long time ago which could either be a successful one or otherwise.

The point of manipulation is joining of groups that are bent on manipulating the price in the short run and the brain behind this is greediness and that is why anyone who wants to invest in coins based on recent occurrence should be careful in doing so because that upward trend in graph might be due to some invisible hand trying to twist you to part away with your hard earned resources.

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