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cryptozulu

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Quote from: Cryptowatch.com on April 26, 2015, 06:49:20 PM

SAWUBONA cryptozulu!!

How's the general attitude towards bitcoin in SA? How's it like working with the banks, and what does the government say?

How's the community, are many involved?

I am sure many would appreciate it if you wrote a small article on bitcoin's status in SA and Africa in general from an insiders point of view. You might even get paid for it if you contacted one of the major bitcoin newspapers online.

A couple of examples:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/
http://www.coindesk.com/

Hi there, the short version on the btc movement here:

Its on the upraise this is definite, getting strong and recently farily doubling in adoption, Much potential here for great services for mobile/payment platforms, mostly low-middle class income individuals. People forget that the USD based price for the US citizen might not be a "heavy expense" in general, however you convert that USD value to our Rand (ZAR) value, then well you are looking at money that people cannot simply for out as they please, its substantial and critical to their monthly survival and savings. If you can cater for the low to middle income class, more of a "millibits" theory, well then get ready for fantastic business and adoption.

here in SA, the average guy has heard the word, the term, knows nothing of Satoshi at all, and know its a digital currency, has no idea why or how or for what they would want to use it, education is key.

Well, if you look closely at my signature you will find I am the owner and head of Cointelegraph South Africa (Franchise) and have been building it piece by piece, stories are scarce and so are interested parties, but that is rising

Cryptowatch.com

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SAWUBONA cryptozulu!!

How's the general attitude towards bitcoin in SA? How's it like working with the banks, and what does the government say?

How's the community, are many involved?

I am sure many would appreciate it if you wrote a small article on bitcoin's status in SA and Africa in general from an insiders point of view. You might even get paid for it if you contacted one of the major bitcoin newspapers online.

A couple of examples:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/
http://www.coindesk.com/

Cruxer

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Bitcoin FTW!

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Yeah the Bitcoin/Blockchain movement has been somewhat "slowish" for Africa,

I wouldn't say so, compare to IT infrastructure in Africa, progress is quite fast

Kprawn

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I have to agree with him, the reliability was a problem, when I was there. They have a system called "Loadshedding" where they switch off whole suburbs to reduce the load on their network. {It seems as though the provider, cannot supply enough electricity} Luckily for me, the hotel where I stayed, had backup generators, so we still had power, when the outages occured.

The receptionist said, it's a daily thing, and it can happen up to 3 times a day.... 2 hours per event, without electricity. {This is not provitable at all for miners, who wants 24/7 electricity, and using backup generators, will decrease profits even more... due to the increased cost of gas.}

The climate is also a bit warm in summer, for mining to be viable. {Cooling cost will increase} I compare that to Canada and China.

Still a great place, and a must for everyone to see. Wink

.... I have been to a place called, Sun City and it was a great adventure. Grin

.... The people are also more friendly, than in most places in Europe.

cryptozulu

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Thanks everyone, will be sure to shout if I want some input from this great community, thanks for the warm welcome into the fold!

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Welcome to the community im from the usa my self. If you ever need help we are here to help you. Well some are some will troll you for days but you still got to love them.

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Quote from: ThomasCrowne on April 14, 2015, 11:34:27 PM

Welcome aboard zulu.

Those nanofury's can be a great teaching tool when first introducing somebody to the whole concept of mining.

USB stick miners really are great for learning. I highly suggest using one vs cpu/gpu. Don't have to worry about running to high of a intensity on computer.

Also if you run a Raspberry Pi you can get a good start at learning Linux. So good for those who mainly use windows.

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Welcome aboard zulu.

Those nanofury's can be a great teaching tool when first introducing somebody to the whole concept of mining.

cryptozulu

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Quote from: notlist3d on April 14, 2015, 03:52:55 PM

Quote from: cryptozulu on April 14, 2015, 03:34:16 PM

Quote from: Lies on April 14, 2015, 12:33:03 PM

Hi there and welcome!
It would be a great achievement if people would actually use bitcoin to pay eg. groceries, smaller trades p2p, ... even more then something like mining. Could mining be profitable in SA? Is electricity expensive there?
I really like your project and wish you all the luck!

Well, my partner and CO Founder of our company Bitmagnet, is a very very strong believer in the mining aspect, and if one could provide him with a good ventilated cooled housing area with power he would go wild, he already has a fair amount of hashing power.

I think, putting aside shipping and import costs including the customs charges, if you could have the miners drop from helicopter into the data center today, and plug them in to work 24/7 then yes, I think it would be greatly profitable. Power cost and cost per kwh is low here yes compared to US/EU or whatever the case may be. My experience from speaking to other local guys and looking at numbers is this:

The purchase/shipment/import/customs cost of your miners from abroad to SA, completely destroys your ROI that you had planned, so the numbers looked good on paper, but then gets wiped out, you will eventually break even and then start profiting but at what risk and how long will that take?

We can't really do the math on this one. We would have to know exact costs. It sounds very very expensive on importing from hat you said. Also it will never ROI is my feeling if you "miners drop from helicopter into the data center". I have never heard of using a helicopter to move miners. Always trucks.

I am guessing mining might not be optimal in your situation.

I dont have extensive experience in the mining locally aspect, never been strong in the mining, some "cloud" stuff but nothing physical, the cost was always to great, then asking around you would get the response about shipping + customs etc.. ruins your investment. So yeah i followed the fold and listened to those with experience, lets call it "non-profitable" at this immediate stage, that's my opinion.

My partner who leads the instructor-led Bitcoin courses has a bunch of bitfury usb miners for the delegates to train and play with during the course...

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better everyday ♥

Welcome to the forum cryptozulu!

Seems like you're bringing the Crypto heat and Bitcoin awareness globally in South Africa. I'll be sure to keep my eyes and ears open on the interwebs for your next interesting projects.

Keep on Bitcoinin'!! Cool

notlist3d

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Quote from: cryptozulu on April 14, 2015, 03:34:16 PM

Quote from: Lies on April 14, 2015, 12:33:03 PM

Hi there and welcome!
It would be a great achievement if people would actually use bitcoin to pay eg. groceries, smaller trades p2p, ... even more then something like mining. Could mining be profitable in SA? Is electricity expensive there?
I really like your project and wish you all the luck!

Well, my partner and CO Founder of our company Bitmagnet, is a very very strong believer in the mining aspect, and if one could provide him with a good ventilated cooled housing area with power he would go wild, he already has a fair amount of hashing power.

I think, putting aside shipping and import costs including the customs charges, if you could have the miners drop from helicopter into the data center today, and plug them in to work 24/7 then yes, I think it would be greatly profitable. Power cost and cost per kwh is low here yes compared to US/EU or whatever the case may be. My experience from speaking to other local guys and looking at numbers is this:

The purchase/shipment/import/customs cost of your miners from abroad to SA, completely destroys your ROI that you had planned, so the numbers looked good on paper, but then gets wiped out, you will eventually break even and then start profiting but at what risk and how long will that take?

We can't really do the math on this one. We would have to know exact costs. It sounds very very expensive on importing from hat you said. Also it will never ROI is my feeling if you "miners drop from helicopter into the data center". I have never heard of using a helicopter to move miners. Always trucks.

I am guessing mining might not be optimal in your situation.

cryptozulu

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Quote from: Lies on April 14, 2015, 12:33:03 PM

Hi there and welcome!
It would be a great achievement if people would actually use bitcoin to pay eg. groceries, smaller trades p2p, ... even more then something like mining. Could mining be profitable in SA? Is electricity expensive there?
I really like your project and wish you all the luck!

Well, my partner and CO Founder of our company Bitmagnet, is a very very strong believer in the mining aspect, and if one could provide him with a good ventilated cooled housing area with power he would go wild, he already has a fair amount of hashing power.

I think, putting aside shipping and import costs including the customs charges, if you could have the miners drop from helicopter into the data center today, and plug them in to work 24/7 then yes, I think it would be greatly profitable. Power cost and cost per kwh is low here yes compared to US/EU or whatever the case may be. My experience from speaking to other local guys and looking at numbers is this:

The purchase/shipment/import/customs cost of your miners from abroad to SA, completely destroys your ROI that you had planned, so the numbers looked good on paper, but then gets wiped out, you will eventually break even and then start profiting but at what risk and how long will that take?

Lies

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Hi there and welcome!
It would be a great achievement if people would actually use bitcoin to pay eg. groceries, smaller trades p2p, ... even more then something like mining. Could mining be profitable in SA? Is electricity expensive there?
I really like your project and wish you all the luck!

cryptozulu

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Quote from: Amph on April 14, 2015, 02:52:28 AM

welcome, and if you are a important guy there, please spread your interest about bitcoin with other, adoption is what bitcoin really need to grow

btw something i want to ask, there are mining facility there in africa? or the electricity cost is too prohibitive?

Thanks for the welcome

The question around mining and cost comes up allot, and some speculate its not great compared to ROI etc.. I think the very biggest issue is not the power cost per kw/h that will likely be cheaper than most, The x2 biggest contributing factors from my perspective are:

1. The cost to import the miners with customs etc... completely destroys the potential ROI that was planned, its insanely expensive and just throws the idea to the floor
2. Reliability of the power provided, our main Grid and power provider doesn't shout "reliability" so you will have black-outs and downtime, and since the investment required 24/7 upkeep and mining its just not worth it.

Amph

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welcome, and if you are a important guy there, please spread your interest about bitcoin with other, adoption is what bitcoin really need to grow

btw something i want to ask, there are mining facility there in africa? or the electricity cost is too prohibitive?

cryptozulu

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Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and positive comments, it is appreciated!

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ur website has help a lot of people, keep up the good work

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Quote from: notlist3d on April 13, 2015, 01:44:34 AM

Welcome to the forums! Sounds like you are already part of the crypto world.

If you don't mind me asking what is cost of electricity in South-Africa? Love to see BTC spread through the world.

I have some mates in south africa and in some places is surprisingly high, to the point mining was definitely not profitable. In some other places its low, but people don't have money to buy machines.

ashour

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Welcome to the forum Jaques, really cool to see people like you from South Africa involved so much in bitcoin. Keep it up

notlist3d

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Welcome to the forums! Sounds like you are already part of the crypto world.

If you don't mind me asking what is cost of electricity in South-Africa? Love to see BTC spread through the world.

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