This is hardly surprising. Avalon was started reluctantly to create balance for BFL (which they failed to do since BFL was very late). Their director has repeatedly expressed reluctance to staying in the ASIC manufacturing market. It is hardly surprising that some of their team would be engaged by their manufacturing partners—who make money by continued, growth in manufacturing. What surprise is it that this new group would want to produce more efficient chips as well? This split was both inevitable and necessary for all parties involved.
I think we all hope Avalon distributes their bulk chips soon and that this split is not running counter to timely delivery of bulk chip orders.
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Power and money make you "friends" you don't want, and turns those real ones the ones you want to go away.
If news about split are true, I will be sad in their behalf for a while.
I can't be excited thinking about new chips (even if that news is good), still waiting the original ones to arrive.
If news about split are true, I will be sad in their behalf for a while.
I can't be excited thinking about new chips (even if that news is good), still waiting the original ones to arrive.
Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now.
OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..?
I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them?
Based on Gridchip's post:
- Gridchip designed the 110nm chip for Avalon.
- Now,Gridchip is working on 40nm chip,so there is no 40nm chip now.
- And Gridchip want to do the sell (40nm chip) directly,not with Avalon any more.
- Gridchip post those picture to prove what he said.
- There MAYBE some delay because TSMC is busy,just MAYBE.
- And the 40nm chip hash rate will be 2-2.5G
One very important question for all DYI miner developer and his customer. Are 40nm chip backward compatible witch "old" Avalon ? I mean pin outs and communication protocol.
If there personal/financial problem between Avalon and Gridchip how will this affect the timely delivery of ordered chips ?
Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now.
OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..?
I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them?
Based on Gridchip's post:
- Gridchip designed the 110nm chip for Avalon.
- Now,Gridchip is working on 40nm chip,so there is no 40nm chip now.
- And Gridchip want to do the sell (40nm chip) directly,not with Avalon any more.
- Gridchip post those picture to prove what he said.
- There MAYBE some delay because TSMC is busy,just MAYBE.
- And the 40nm chip hash rate will be 2-2.5G
*AWESOME PICTURES*
Sorry, do you mind to provide some context for me? I feel kinda lost right now.
OP talks about a team which was part of Avalon's dev crew and plans to release a 40 nm chip and I think you are a board developer for Avalon chips. And you post pictures of a really huge amount of Avalon chips. I don't get the connection, yet..?
I'm sure those aren't Gridchip's 40 nm chips, so my best guess: their are all yours and you do more than delivering PCBs, but complete mining boards. But that would rise the next very important question: did Avalon begin to ship the chips and you already received them?
That right there, is a lot of chips...
Great news!
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I thank you. Also, if I may be so bold to ask, is the uniform in your avatar that of PLA?
Not exactly.And it just a avatar.
it's armed police uniform.
I thank you. Also, if I may be so bold to ask, is the uniform in your avatar that of PLA?
Not exactly.And it just a avatar.
To summarize what you and johnyj have said:
(1) Key members of the Avalon design team are now independent of Avalon;
(2) This new design team is proposing the development of a 40nm chip;
(3) The team is seeking investment - as in capital, as opposed to crowd source or pre-sales.
IS THIS CORRECT?
And,he did not make this clear.But,almost there.
Just MAYBE.
Mainly I am interested in a credible Shenzen-based proposal to deploy a 40nm chip, and also interested in whether they are funding privately or soliciting investment to underwrite NRE and other expenses.
I thank you. Also, if I may be so bold to ask, is the uniform in your avatar that of PLA?
Basically,this team designed chips(110nm) for Avalon.
And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm)
And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
To summarize what you and johnyj have said:And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm)
And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
(1) Key members of the Avalon design team are now independent of Avalon;
(2) This new design team is proposing the development of a 40nm chip;
(3) The team is seeking investment - as in capital, as opposed to crowd source or pre-sales.
IS THIS CORRECT?
And,he did not make this clear.But,almost there.
Just MAYBE.
Basically,this team designed chips(110nm) for Avalon.
And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm)
And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
To summarize what you and johnyj have said:And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm)
And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
(1) Key members of the Avalon design team are now independent of Avalon;
(2) This new design team is proposing the development of a 40nm chip;
(3) The team is seeking investment - as in capital, as opposed to crowd source or pre-sales.
IS THIS CORRECT?
And,he did not make this clear.But,almost there.
watching
Who knows what is going on. Avalon can take care of themselves, I am sure.
Also interested. Good luck
My first thought reading this is "Awesome ! More competition entering Bitcoin space".
My second thought is "Come on, rest of the world ! Why is Shenzhen seemingly the only place that has it's act together (relatively speaking) ? It's starting to be embarrassing !"
*mumbles something about wanting to buy American and how that's worked out for him so far*
Fixed
uhh ok... I guess the wages in foxconn was so good that out of excitement they decided to jump off roofs...
Danny
Author claims to be the ASIC chips design team for Avalon, is there a split inside? 
This is the point. 
Based on the author's words,may be some thing happened to the Avalon team.And,most like a big one.
Shedding dead weight?
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No offence to the guy, but I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of one Dr. Ng Zhang feels that some of the team isn't living up to his standards.
Pure speculation though, probably entirely wrong.
these guys are not the same one who have opened a thread here last month or something?
I believe you are right. Now this becomes even more murky. Until some further clarification, I'm going to put this over into the FUD/BS thread list.
Sorry, I did not want to implay of you claim it so, just only that I wonder the same thing and that we need some more information and clearification. In op post there is none of any of those speculations.
I took no offense. It is clear that we both seek the same thing, which is an understanding of this. Do you read Chinese? Are those implications found in the original posts (not the OP of this thread)?
Basically,this team designed chips(110nm) for Avalon.
And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm)
And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
To summarize what you and johnyj have said:And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm)
And,we don't know what happened inside Avalon.
(1) Key members of the Avalon design team are now independent of Avalon;
(2) This new design team is proposing the development of a 40nm chip;
(3) The team is seeking investment - as in capital, as opposed to crowd source or pre-sales.
IS THIS CORRECT?
Maybe this has something to do with btc address for chip purchases? Yifu said that who claim that they own that btc address.
(1) yuchuanzhen stated "Based on the author's words,may be some thing happened to the Avalon team.And,most like a big one."
(2) and (3), yuchuanzhen stated "And for some unknown reason,they are looking for some new partner/investor.(40nm)"
Again, this development is currently, in primary source, in Chinese. I think everyone who is reporting it, in English, should be very careful to be very clear. Presumptions themselves may not translate correctly, even if they are, themselves, correct.
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