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Topic: [Groupbuy][Closed] 3rd batch KNCMiner - Sold out! - page 8. (Read 10731 times)

hero member
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boss, 6 shares for me. thanks.  i've invested alot in kncminer, hope they won't let us down.  or else i'll jump into river.

I doubt they do, they have all the personal information available on the whole crew. And they use Orsoc etc..
But i would like more information about chip process, but they might keep that low due competition.
They also allow wire transfer and paypal, so there is possible to trace things there also. Instead of BitCoin only Wink

Its better than those one man army shows..

If something doesn't go as planned, i am only 4 hours away from their offices with car.

From the looks for it, i will get a KnC before any BFL Wink
sr. member
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boss, 6 shares for me. thanks.  i've invested alot in kncminer, hope they won't let us down.  or else i'll jump into river.
newbie
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We are finalizing negotiation with our hosting partner (a datacentre in the netherlands) so I can't give any exact numbers yet, but it should be cheaper than KNC hosting ($350 per month per miner). I din't know what you mean with 2 or 3 cents, but one miner is 1KW so it won't run very long on 3 cents Smiley
So, let's say running costs were 300 per month, then:
300/30/248 = 4cents/day/share?

Would that be the correct calculation? And apart from this, there are no other fees involved right?
hero member
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Sent 0.35 BTC for 1 share. TX: ce2642ae4fae48f1268090557cdc5d4c7f677b9b1e141241f96a5e84949c19a1
legendary
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yes, btc for btc, or pound for pound, knc jupiter offers the best investment.  is there a likelihood that knc wont deliver by october while bitfury does deliver?  i've invested alot in knc and nothing yet in bitfury.
Hard to say.. All our money is on KnC, but if thats wise only time can tell.. Spreading risk can be wise, but I can't look into your btc wallet so to speak. If either one doesn't deliver it's gonna cost a lot of money so don't invest money which you can't afford to lose I guess..

Start post updated btw Smiley
legendary
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So the miner is essentially being divided into 248 shares except you will own 8 of them (+12 more)
Can you give an estimate of running costs per day per share?

Electricity won't be more than 2 or 3 cents
Correct, and the 12 will be a lot more Smiley havent had time to update the post yet, but we've already added btc for 200 more shares so the first miner is almost sold Smiley

We are finalizing negotiation with our hosting partner (a datacentre in the netherlands) so I can't give any exact numbers yet, but it should be cheaper than KNC hosting ($350 per month per miner). I din't know what you mean with 2 or 3 cents, but one miner is 1KW so it won't run very long on 3 cents Smiley

[quote cauthor=hardinero007 link=topic=255729.msg2726128#msg2726128 date=1373781493]
is there an estimate on when will the miners of this batch will be delivered relatively to the day 1 delivery?
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According to latest KnC news, the miners ordered now should get a week number for shipment. We will offcourse try to negotiate delivery together with the other miners, but can't guarantee that.

Cheers
newbie
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So the miner is essentially being divided into 248 shares except you will own 8 of them (+12 more)
Can you give an estimate of running costs per day per share?

Electricity won't be more than 2 or 3 cents
sr. member
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is there an estimate on when will the miners of this batch will be delivered relatively to the day 1 delivery?
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 266
yes, btc for btc, or pound for pound, knc jupiter offers the best investment.  is there a likelihood that knc wont deliver by october while bitfury does deliver?  i've invested alot in knc and nothing yet in bitfury.
hero member
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hi boss, there's this bitfury miner with some group buys going on.  same 400 ghash/s mining power with bitfury costing more (approx 30%).  what's your insight on bitfury vs knc?  will bitfury deliver earlier since it costs more?  i'm thinking about investing some btc in bitfury to diversify my investments, but if knc will deliver as promise, i might put all investment on knc.  hope you can enlighten us.  thanks.

Quick answer..

http://decentralizedhashing.com/bitcoin-mining-equipment-table/

The 400GHs Bitfury mention there is out of stock..

Tyrion can give you a better one when he wakes up Smiley
sr. member
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hi boss, there's this bitfury miner with some group buys going on.  same 400 ghash/s mining power with bitfury costing more (approx 30%).  what's your insight on bitfury vs knc?  will bitfury deliver earlier since it costs more?  i'm thinking about investing some btc in bitfury to diversify my investments, but if knc will deliver as promise, i might put all investment on knc.  hope you can enlighten us.  thanks.
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Sent 2.1 BTC for 6 shares. TXID: d16fcfe943b70b1400165e04a83508e255edfe0ad500ffbccc943d018c158acf

Thx...
legendary
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Thanks btceic! And welcome again!
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
10 12 shares for me please!

thanks tyrion70 && blastbob you guys are the best!


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Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 7/13/2013 16:34
To: KnCMiner 3 Share 1BuYkNC9h1EKUHeiB3t2jyUydR4yYSsiy6
Debit: -4.20 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.00000001 BTC
Net amount: -4.20000001 BTC
Transaction ID: 5f9ea1851992717fc46853a32e8d4aa414b77c9933e09fb694a2dcdde5667a0c
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legendary
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Miner 05 -  Shares Sold:
Username             # shares  Transaction confirmed
anonymous            136       yes
a28hz                4         yes
anonymous            80        yes
maqifrnswa           5         yes
Hhee                 20        yes

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Miner 04 -  Shares Sold:
Username             # shares  Transaction confirmed
tyrion70&blastbob    5         yes
btceic               15        yes
Regenmacher          1         yes
quantummine          14        yes
kerhac               1         yes
hasher87             6         yes
Regenmacher          1         yes
stfnnn               10        yes
alzaron              8         yes
stfnnn               10        yes
soapmodem            25        yes
joele                10        yes
joele                30        yes
tyrion70&blastbob    40        yes
anonymous            64        yes

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Miner 03 -  Shares Sold:
Username             # shares  Transaction confirmed
tyrion70&blastbob    71        yes
tyrion70&blastbob    90        yes
tyrion70&blastbob    35        yes
Undef                6         yes
scosa                10        yes
hardinero007         5         yes
kuriboh              1         yes
ottuzzi              16        yes
holy_pie             1         yes
hardinero007         5         yes


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Miner 02 -  Shares Sold:
Username             # shares  Transaction confirmed
tyrion70&blastbob    31        yes
ffwong               12        yes
jamesc760            2         yes
quantummine          9         yes
quantummine          4         yes
tyrion70&blastbob    30        yes
tyrion70&blastbob    90        yes
alzaron              7         yes
Kushedout            15        yes
wolfskill            1         yes
hardinero007         9         yes
leepsteer00          1         yes
jski                 4         yes
leepsteer00          1         yes
DavidMc0             5         yes
tyrion70&blastbob    18        yes

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Miner 01 -  Sold!
Username             # shares  Transaction confirmed
tyrion70&blastbob    1         yes
tyrion70&blastbob    1         yes
tyrion70&blastbob    10        yes
btceic               12        yes
tyrion70&blastbob    100       yes
Bigdaddyaz           6         yes
tyrion70&blastbob    99        yes
leepsteer00          1         yes
eRadicant            2         yes
hardinero007         6         yes
jamesc760            1         yes
hardinero007         1         yes
legendary
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We've asked John K to verify our identities. You can find his posts here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2618021

Miner 1: 240/240 shares sold
Miner 2: 240/240 shares sold
Miner 3: 240/240 shares sold
Miner 4: 240/240 shares sold
Miner 5: 240/240 shares sold

Following our 2 successfull earlier KNC Jupiter groupbuys, we decided to start another groupbuy.

This groupbuy will stop after 5 miners are bought and payed for. We'll start a new one after that. The 5 miners will be treated as a group for BTC/USD currency losses. That means, any difference in price on the 5 miners in total will be payed back or withheld at first dividend.

We are still splitting miners into 240 shares. Price is set at 0.35 BTC per share.

Our groupbuys are special because of our ADDICTION asset on Bitfunder. Once hashing these 5 miners will become a part of the ADDICTION network, just like the previous groupbuy
Because delivery of these miners is later than the first (possibly two) batches, we can't and won't issue new ADDICTION shares until these miners are delivered and running.

Once that happens though, these shares can be exchanged for assets on ADDICTION. This will be done - as described in the IPO details - by using the hashrate of the device. It is expected that the second batch will also run at 400GH which would mean for every share you'd receive 50 ADDICTION shares, regardless of the actual price at that time.
This ensures that ADDICTION share value does not  dillute but still represents the same hashrate (currently predicted at 32.26MH per share). You can choose not to have your shares converted to Bitfunder. In that case we'll just payout to your btc address. Your shares will still be part of the ADDICTION network, just without Bitfunder.

If you need to contact us we can be reached by email at p2poolnl @ googles email . com
Also check out the updates at http://p2pool.nl/blog/

Just like in the last groupbuys we will be buying shares of this groupbuy ourselves Smiley

We expect that you have read up on KNCMiner and what its about.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kncminer-openday-wednesday-5th-monday-10th-june-214285
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/swedish-asic-miner-company-kncminercom-170332

You can also read up on the old groupbuy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/groupbuy-jupiter-kncminer-05-btc-shares-12-sold-closed-227400
and
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closedgroupbuy-new-batch-kncminer-8-sold-sold-out-238336

For more details on the IPO and details of costs involved look on Bitfunder:
https://bitfunder.com/asset/ADDICTION (click profile-> description)

Shares
Each share is only 0.35 BTC. Each miner is divided into 240 Shares.

1 Share gives you the right to 1/248th of the BTC proceeds from a KNC Jupiter Miner mining 24/7 after deduction of costs. The remaining 8 shares will be owned by OP as payment for maintaining the miners.

Payment will be based on the proceeds from every individual miner until shares are issued to Bitfunder. Once the miner is added to the ADDICTION network each share is calculated over the total ADDICTION network

The miners will be most likely be hosted at a datacenter in the Netherlands.

When mining is not profitable anymore, we will attempt to sell the miners or find another use for them. Any proceeds thereof will be distributed as dividend.

How to buy shares
You need to send 0.35 BTC per share and post the TX id in this thread or PM. Make sure you own the send address used. We will use the sending address for payouts. Change of this address is only possible with a signed message from that address.

IMPORTANT, if you want to convert to bitfunder, please inform us of your Bitfunder ID (if we don't have it already). If you don't want to convert to bitfunder, ensure you send BTC from an address which is owned by you. Using online wallets is not recommended. We ask this because we will use the from address for payouts. You can request an address change only with a signed message. If you are unable to send from a private address please contact us through PM BEFORE transfering your money. We'll give you a random numer of satoshi's to transfer along to prove it's you.

Miners will be divided into 240 shares. For each lot completely filled an actual payment to KNC will be done. This groupbuy will stop once 5 miners are bought.

In case of non-delivery
We believe KNC will keep its promises. In case KNC does not deliver we will do everything in our power to refund your (and our own) investments. We cannot guarantee this however. Buying these shares means you agree to not hold us responsible in case KNC does not deliver.

In case of hardware failure
We believe the gear should be able to run 24 months, but since there are no working devices yet we simply don’t know. In case of hardware failure we will have KNC repair or replace the machine. Any costs involved will be deducted from payment as costs.

Appropriate Payment Address Wink
1BuYkNC9h1EKUHeiB3t2jyUydR4yYSsiy6

Dividends
Payouts will take place bi-weekly. Statements will be made available on http://p2pool.nl/blog/

Payment on shares will commence the miner attached to the shares is delivered.

Until shares are actually issued to bitfunder, it is possible to transfer ownership of your shares. We will however charge a 0.1BTC transfer fee (per transaction) for this. If you decide not to transfer the shares to bitfunder, this transaction feel will be kept in place.

Who are we
We are Tyrion70 and Blastbob. We’re from Norway and The Netherlands and decided to team up on a number of ventures (p2pool.nl being the most prominent). Since we both very much liked the KNC offering we wanted to offer this to a bigger public.

We've completed two other KNC groupbuys where we bought a total of 20 KNC Jupiters.
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