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Quote from: stompix on October 03, 2024, 09:39:31 PM

Quote from: tottong on October 01, 2024, 08:21:22 PM

Investing in bitcoin is not always about the amount but how we can be consistent in investing.

This is a stupid take, consistency in investing also results in a final amount, and even DCA would of course be influenced by the amount poured in, Do you think DCA with $20 a day would beat somebody buying 10 million now?
You will need 14 years of constant DCA at those sums and a 10 times better average buy price to beat the profits of a guy buying coins right now, so good luck with that!

It's not about who will run faster but who can take advantage of the conditions even though their finances are very limited.
Of course having stable finances and being able to buy 10 million in minutes would be better, but do people who don't have a good financial structure have no chance of getting involved in investing.
We are not talking about beating anyone in terms of investment because the most important thing is that involvement in bitcoin can provide opportunities for anyone to improve their finances to be better.

Regarding speed because there is no large capital support, we can run according to our abilities, when it is consistently run using the DCA method, then be sure that the assets collected will slowly continue to grow.

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Well if right now im 43 years old and i have lets say 15 million usd worth of bitcoin, would i have to continue working as a bricklayer until at least 62 years to retire and collect social security monthly benefits or could right now i do something with 15 million usd worth of bitcoin as to quit my day job and not have to go to work anymore? What are my options then if some financial advisors have told me that i have several options such as real estate because renting is profitable, investing in crypto stocks, or dividend stocks, ect... what could i do with 15 million usd worth of bitcoin as to not do more backbreaking labor?

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

You have 13/14 million dollars and you still I thinking as how a newbie will be thinking. How did you get the money because anyone that gets that money through hardwork won't ask questions like this as he would had learnt that it isn't the exponential increase that makes you rich but the slow increase. With such money you don't need to look for quick profit investment but those that are going to be around for long and not take your money from you. Having those money in Bitcoin and to continue to hodl despite the conditions of the market, it'll grow your money slowly and long lasting and that's the best way to preserve wealth. I won't touch the money and continues to work while I wait for my investment to give me a better profits. Again I'll say don't go for the exponential growth but go for the steady growth. You can diversify your investments too.

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Quote from: stompix on October 03, 2024, 09:39:31 PM

Quote from: tottong on October 01, 2024, 08:21:22 PM

Investing in bitcoin is not always about the amount but how we can be consistent in investing.

This is a stupid take, consistency in investing also results in a final amount, and even DCA would of course be influenced by the amount poured in, Do you think DCA with $20 a day would beat somebody buying 10 million now?
You will need 14 years of constant DCA at those sums and a 10 times better average buy price to beat the profits of a guy buying coins right now, so good luck with that!

It boils down to what a person would like to reach - sure, I do agree with your take that if you invest once in BTC for $10M, it would be more profitable in the long run, however, not everybody has such and even lower capital for that Grin

People need to start from something, and doing it in a lump is not a good decision overall, but not a bad one if we are talking about Bitcoin.
DCA is for your investment to not suffer that much from volatility, however, some people do it in lumps - and they are too in profit, though I didn't compare the two seriously. As you said, it depends on the volume you are willing to use.

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Quote from: tottong on October 01, 2024, 08:21:22 PM

Investing in bitcoin is not always about the amount but how we can be consistent in investing.

This is a stupid take, consistency in investing also results in a final amount, and even DCA would of course be influenced by the amount poured in, Do you think DCA with $20 a day would beat somebody buying 10 million now?
You will need 14 years of constant DCA at those sums and a 10 times better average buy price to beat the profits of a guy buying coins right now, so good luck with that!

Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 30, 2024, 06:13:27 PM

Then what is this person saying about making several millions worth of bitcoin grow exponentially,

https://www.quora.com/If-someone-is-only-43-years-old-and-has-14-million-usd-what-kind-of-investments-will-allow-them-at-this-age-to-never-have-to-go-back-to-work-at-this-age-How-can-they-make-14-million-usd-grow-exponentially-and-thru/answer/Kovini-Moodley?ch=10&oid=1477743816973664&share=9d6d032c&srid=nPbjD&target_type=answer

That "person" is using Chatgpt to write articles on Quora for pennies and to attract gullible investors to her "courses".
Do you really think someone who knows how to 10x their capital in a few years beating any investment funds is giving advice for free?

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 03, 2024, 12:41:47 PM

Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

I'm not really sure what you're asking here. First off with any investment there are not guarantees. So if you were to put 13-14 million dollars in to bitcoin say today, and say by the time you were done investing and buying all that bitcoin, the price of bitcoin could have fallen to say 12 million and then over the next few years that price drops even further to say 10 million. You just never know. This is not the type of "investment" for guaranteed growth or even remotely close.

To minimize losses, one can venture in real-estate. Do remember that market price of real-estate tends to increase thru the years. It is quite a risk if you will venture only in crypto as the volatility is still high. Try to diversify your portfolio with tangible assets as this will have lesser risk to take.

People have the notion that when they invested in btc, they can easily grow this exponentially for short period of time. But then, once they are here, they will realize that it is not what it seems to be.

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

I'm not really sure what you're asking here. First off with any investment there are not guarantees. So if you were to put 13-14 million dollars in to bitcoin say today, and say by the time you were done investing and buying all that bitcoin, the price of bitcoin could have fallen to say 12 million and then over the next few years that price drops even further to say 10 million. You just never know. This is not the type of "investment" for guaranteed growth or even remotely close.

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

Any money already in Bitcoin is Bitcoin, it is already invested, what remains is the timing on when to sell and take profit, some will hold for a year while some will what to hold for many more years.

The future growth depends on how long you plan to hold, 10x is still possible with Bitcoin but you will have to hold for the long term, there is no long term holder that isn't doing so well today, you only need to safeguard your private key.

As per the past history of Bitcoin, holding is proven to be the best technique thus far.

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If you have many Bitcoin from a long time ago, you will see the profit grow in your wallet. That profit will be grow more in the future following the Bitcoin price especially when Bitcoin price can increase to the highest price. People who bought Bitcoin from a long time never expected to see that huge profit so they can sell their Bitcoin and enjoy the money.

Let say you have 210-215 Bitcoin, you will see that $13-14 million according to the Bitcoin price now. So I assume that you have 215 Bitcoin in your hand as you say $13-$14 million. But you will not have that huge money if you don't sell your Bitcoin. That profit will be increase in the future following the Bitcoin price.

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

Bitcoin is considered capable of increasing a person's finances when they consistently invest, but many people fail to understand that capital will adjust its profits.
The advantage of bitcoin is that you don't need to put capital once in accumulation because you can see buying opportunities in profitable periods and for routine purchases you can use the DCA pattern.
Bitcoin has grown since it was first created and even at first almost most people doubted it, but now we can see its development.

Investing in bitcoin is not always about the amount but how we can be consistent in investing.
If you believe that bitcoin can raise awareness in achieving financial freedom, then do it responsibly.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 01, 2024, 04:29:20 PM

Holding your bitcoin for quite a long period will already guarantee its future growth. You don't have to invest your bitcoin anymore, because hodling alone will bring you massive profits in time. However, if you wish to convert some of your bitcoin to altcoins, that could also be, but altcoins are even more risky than bitcoin most especially if you end up with wrong coins, so just stay hodling your bitcoin as long as possible.

There are quite different sections in the market, we have the trading and investment sector, key basis to follow up the current days of the system. Bitcoin is mostly volatile when it comes to the up and down movement of the market. We totally understand how bitcoin operates and it's no longer a new thing, for those traders and investors that are acquainted with the modern day cryptocurrency. Holding requires more patience, we just have to make sure there's enough back up plans for us and staying out of risky. Holding is very important in the current days of trading and investment in the crypto space.

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

Holding your bitcoin for quite a long period will already guarantee its future growth. You don't have to invest your bitcoin anymore, because hodling alone will bring you massive profits in time. However, if you wish to convert some of your bitcoin to altcoins, that could also be, but altcoins are even more risky than bitcoin most especially if you end up with wrong coins, so just stay hodling your bitcoin as long as possible.

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

Assuming bitcoin this was 2014, it is possible for you to achieve 10x of the money that you invested because at 2014, bitcoin price was in the range of $400-$500. As time passes on and more people adopting bitcoin, the volatility in bitcoin is reducing and it is not as high as it was in the beginning making it impossible for you to invest now and expect 10x profit in ten years.

Ten years from now we will only have completed two circles and half which makes me think that making 10x profit is impossible. The only way that you might get close to 10x profit is maybe you invest and hodli for 30 years, and you don't just lump sum all in one but it will be better if you share the money into three parts. Use one part to lump sum right away, use the second part to DCA by spreading it out gradually overtime and the last part to always buy more bitcoin during the dip.

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

If you only want to invest for a couple of years, then i would recommend moving to another altcoin with a nice future, that way your investment would grow faster.

Your suggestions make sense. I totally agree with you. At the same time I wanna add something.

He can move bitcoin to alts but it is high risky though we know that high risk means high reward. But at this moment, he can maintain some strategies. For example, he can invest a portion of his portfolio to the alts. Then it will be a safe game I think!!!

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Quote from: seoincorporation on September 30, 2024, 09:00:23 AM

Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

You don't need to invest that money, the fact that it's already in bitcoin you already have an investment that could grow as crazy. 10 years ago Bitcoin was at $400 when i started using it, and now is at $63000, so, we are talking about something bigger than x100 but the hard part is to hold for a long period of time, if you can do that, then you will find success in your investment.

If you only want to invest for a couple of years, then i would recommend moving to another altcoin with a nice future, that way your investment would grow faster.

Well spoken, Bitcoin is already an investment opportunity, holding it means you're investing already. So you don't need to invest an already running investment into something else. Allow your Bitcoin investment to run for a long term, let's say 4-10 years or more depending on your holding capacity. I believe you'll be glad and proud of yourself in years time if you take this advise.

You need a thick skin though to invest for a long term, the volatility of the markets can be annoying sometimes, the short-term gains can trigger greed and early selloffs, but remaining steadfast in your investment for a longer timeframe would definitely bring huge profits

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.? Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

If it is possible, it requires a very positive extraordinary event that makes market sentiment positive for months and it would not be funny if the market continues to rise and never corrects again.

Maybe I refer to the advice and opinion given by our senior @Don Pedro Dinero that it is true that it is most likely to grow in value 3 or even 4 times and that is already in the extraordinary category.

In general, investment in BTC must be long-term, no matter how much the nominal amount invested by anyone means that it will never grow exponentially, say if we target only 1 or 2 years due to various factors that generally have a direct effect on BTC price movements.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on October 01, 2024, 08:54:30 AM

Well, the point is that if you want to make x10 in two years, with bitcoin I think it's unlikely you will. The normal scenario is that it will make x3 at most or in a total bullish scenario x4.

In any case, a x10 in two years is not realistic because it is a 500% annual return and that can only be achieved by betting (even if it is on financial assets).

Between two market cycles, we can get different ROIs with same exit, assumes the exit is ATH of a new cycle. Depends on the entry, like bottom of a bear market or ATH of a previous cycle, we will have two ROIs.

ROI for ATH of past cycle to ATH of this cycle will be certainly lower than ROI of bottom price to ATH of this cycle. It is hard to find bottom price and time the market to get its bottom, so dollar cost averaging will be most helpful.

Look at this chart for some examples.

Bitcoin price history, ATHs and bottoms.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on September 30, 2024, 09:00:23 AM

You don't need to invest that money, the fact that it's already in bitcoin you already have an investment that could grow as crazy. 10 years ago Bitcoin was at $400 when i started using it, and now is at $63000, so, we are talking about something bigger than x100 but the hard part is to hold for a long period of time, if you can do that, then you will find success in your investment.

If you only want to invest for a couple of years, then i would recommend moving to another altcoin with a nice future, that way your investment would grow faster.

Well, the point is that if you want to make x10 in two years, with bitcoin I think it's unlikely you will. The normal scenario is that it will make x3 at most or in a total bullish scenario x4.

In any case, a x10 in two years is not realistic because it is a 500% annual return and that can only be achieved by betting (even if it is on financial assets).

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 01, 2024, 05:48:13 AM

There are more risky methods like staking but I dont recommend them. Investing in companies that are legitimately doing some work is also a good thing, but options are limited.

Bitcoin is Proof of Work and no way to stake Bitcoin if you don't purchase Wrapped Bitcoin tokens and use them for staking. Staking can help to get staking reward but there is big risk, that these tokens will lose pegs to Bitcoin price and sum of your initial capital and earning from staking suddenly becomes zero in value.

I would like to simply hold my bitcoin, wait for price growth than taking too much risk with Wrapped Bitcoin tokens and staking programs with a worst terrible ending, is losing all money.

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It is best if you divide that capital into bitcoin and some traditional assets, the latter are not bad on the contrary to what members of this forum might think.

In cryptocurrency market, I will decentralized my fund to Bitcoin and Ethereum. For traditional asset, maybe only real estate, one for my home, one for Airbnb, not more. Gold is not in my consideration because gold can not compare to Bitcoin in ROI.

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Quote from: robertcarlyle on September 29, 2024, 10:50:18 PM

How could 13-14 million usd worth of bitcoin be invested in such a way that it will grow exponentially like 10x over gradually in a couple of years in the u.s.?

Dont know about the US cuz the world is way bigger than that, but holding bitcoin works if you buy it at the lower price. Consider investing that much amount of money when bitcoin was $1000 and see how much you could have profited over the years.

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Would this be feasibly possible or not? How could this much bitcoin be put to work? What kind of investsments will allow this?

Mostly long term holding. There are more risky methods like staking but I dont recommend them. Investing in companies that are legitimately doing some work is also a good thing, but options are limited.

It is best if you divide that capital into bitcoin and some traditional assets, the latter are not bad on the contrary to what members of this forum might think.

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