Yes Bitcoin is growing, some people might not know that, but it is the truth. Recently I have got lots of people asking me about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and how they can be part of it, like there are so many people who are always talking about it than before.
It’s really cool, and I like the fact that a lot of people are starting to recognize it. If it was before when I ask people if they know Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, they always say no, but this time around it’s like everyone knows about it, even though they are not part of it, they still know about it and that’s really cool. Although from what I have seen, some of them are still being reluctant about it because it is volatile.
Topic: Growing number of institutionnal investors (Read 1088 times)
@The Pharmacist
I don't know what is considered a huge stake but if we take Microstrategy since you mention the company, they bought 21k BTC and it didn't do anything on the price (I think the price even dropped a bit). I don't think institutional investors will influence the price a lot since they won't buy in mass in 1 shot (if they have a sain brain).
What is weird with the latest news on MSTR, and nobody talked about it, is the fact they bought only bitcoin,s we could have expected diversity in their investment... it's a pretty serious risk to bet it all on Bitcoin.
That was the same day the news was out by the way
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/here-are-the-best-and-worst-stocks-during-the-first-100-days-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-06-17
I don't know what is considered a huge stake but if we take Microstrategy since you mention the company, they bought 21k BTC and it didn't do anything on the price (I think the price even dropped a bit). I don't think institutional investors will influence the price a lot since they won't buy in mass in 1 shot (if they have a sain brain).
What is weird with the latest news on MSTR, and nobody talked about it, is the fact they bought only bitcoin,s we could have expected diversity in their investment... it's a pretty serious risk to bet it all on Bitcoin.
That was the same day the news was out by the way
... This would be
good for researching, to see the top gainers during pandemic, and top losers. If we had some statistic about that, we would
have a better picture about money flow in last months.
good for researching, to see the top gainers during pandemic, and top losers. If we had some statistic about that, we would
have a better picture about money flow in last months.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/here-are-the-best-and-worst-stocks-during-the-first-100-days-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-06-17
I would think it's an excellent thing in general if I believed that these large institutional investors would be owning actual cryptocurrency--bitcoin in particular. But there's less than 21 million coins in circulation, and if you're a fund with really deep pockets you wouldn't be able to buy a huge stake in bitcoin without driving the price up and nearly cornering the market.
What I think is going to happen with all of this money is that it's going to be invested in derivatives, like those offered by Bakkt and the like. You can buy and sell a lot of options without affecting the price directly, so I think that's what the institutions are going to do.
This discussion sort of reminds me of this recent thread, which is about a company that decided to keep its cash reserves in the form of bitcoin--and they bought a lot of it, which I thought was a pretty risky move on their part. Interestingly enough, MSTR's stock price is up over 6% today, so it doesn't appear that there's going to be a shareholder revolt because of this.
What I think is going to happen with all of this money is that it's going to be invested in derivatives, like those offered by Bakkt and the like. You can buy and sell a lot of options without affecting the price directly, so I think that's what the institutions are going to do.
This discussion sort of reminds me of this recent thread, which is about a company that decided to keep its cash reserves in the form of bitcoin--and they bought a lot of it, which I thought was a pretty risky move on their part. Interestingly enough, MSTR's stock price is up over 6% today, so it doesn't appear that there's going to be a shareholder revolt because of this.
That’s a very thorough study. Capital flowing into crypto market from so many institutional investors might definitely mean an uptrend for all the crypto assets out there. And then everyone would want a piece of it sooner or later. I am surprised to see that almost above 30% investors looked at the innovative technology and the high potential. I did not expect the number to be above 15-20%.
I agree that volatility and market manipulation is the main reason that is stopping many investors from getting their feet into this market but there is one other major reason that is no set of regulations have been made clear by the government.
I agree that volatility and market manipulation is the main reason that is stopping many investors from getting their feet into this market but there is one other major reason that is no set of regulations have been made clear by the government.
During the pandemic, many people lost their jobs and therefore their livelihoods. Millions have become unemployed. In your opinion, in such conditions, they thought how to invest the last remaining funds in bitcoin for storage? I don’t think so.On the contrary, people try to keep cash, which will be appreciated in almost any bad outcome.
Under such circumstances, they are not going to trust fiat cash either. With the federal debt at historic highs, only idiots would keep their wealth in fiat cash. For me, the only safe asset seems to be bullion. I am talking about physical gold, and not about paper gold managed by the banks and other financial institutions. If you want to keep your wealth securely, then gold bars/coins seems to be the best option as of now.
While many people lost jobs, and many businesses are almost dead, some companies are making profit, and they are looking
for new investment opportunities. I didn't hear anyone complain in pharmaceutical and telecommunication sectors. This would be
good for researching, to see the top gainers during pandemic, and top losers. If we had some statistic about that, we would
have a better picture about money flow in last months.
During the pandemic, many people lost their jobs and therefore their livelihoods. Millions have become unemployed. In your opinion, in such conditions, they thought how to invest the last remaining funds in bitcoin for storage? I don’t think so.On the contrary, people try to keep cash, which will be appreciated in almost any bad outcome.
Under such circumstances, they are not going to trust fiat cash either. With the federal debt at historic highs, only idiots would keep their wealth in fiat cash. For me, the only safe asset seems to be bullion. I am talking about physical gold, and not about paper gold managed by the banks and other financial institutions. If you want to keep your wealth securely, then gold bars/coins seems to be the best option as of now.
off course they invest in couse this news that they are investing makes the investors FOMO.
OFF COURSE they invest if they know the price will go up lol
its funny...when btc was down there was so many bad news about btc
like restrictions and blabla...they got it with bargain price now they tell guys crypto is good its so bullsih go and invest buy the top...they say that idiots come and give us your money we are the big wall street players we want to be richer ....now its green light btc is so bullish wait when btc will hit to 20k i think it will be all over news cnn bbbc and every where suckers coming in with money lol 
since 2017, the cryptocurrency market has changed a lot and one of the most important achievements in the cryptocurrency market is futures trading. It seems to me that it is the availability of futures on the cryptocurrency market that makes it possible to organize arbitrage trading to the right extent. As for institutional investors, the infrastructure is gradually being created in the cryptocurrency market, for example, the Huobi Group has launched an over-the-counter platform for large players. At the same time, BitGo created a clearing system of a similar level. I believe that it was the current transfer that was marked by a very strong relationship between the stock and cryptocurrency markets.
During the pandemic cryptocurrency has become a view of people as a good asset storage for new people. In my view, the increase in investors is happening. I am sure there will be many new projects in the community's view because this game is only a term and they know the risk will be borne by themselves. is a good and advanced future for cryptocurrency in this pandemic. Popularity will develop fastDuring the pandemic, many people lost their jobs and therefore their livelihoods. Millions have become unemployed. In your opinion, in such conditions, they thought how to invest the last remaining funds in bitcoin for storage? I don’t think so.On the contrary, people try to keep cash, which will be appreciated in almost any bad outcome.
I feel like the best way we could continue with this input from the really rich people would be to make sure that we do not allow them to do anything we can't do, and we should just follow them.
Buy when they buy, sell when they sell, long when they long and short when they short, be ready for whatever they "might" do in the future and always be on their toes, otherwise they will destroy all of us and take all of our money once again here too just like they do in the fiat world and we can't allow something like that to happen here as well. They are both a great help to us, but they are also a great threat to us as well, it is not a world where we could be friends with billionaires or companies with that much money, they will never accept us as part of them but bitcoin gives as an advantage.
Buy when they buy, sell when they sell, long when they long and short when they short, be ready for whatever they "might" do in the future and always be on their toes, otherwise they will destroy all of us and take all of our money once again here too just like they do in the fiat world and we can't allow something like that to happen here as well. They are both a great help to us, but they are also a great threat to us as well, it is not a world where we could be friends with billionaires or companies with that much money, they will never accept us as part of them but bitcoin gives as an advantage.
I’m expecting better changes in the price of bitcoin. I just don’t know why the price has been finding it difficult to get pass the current rate at which it is now ($9,400). It’s been quite long that it’s been at this rate.
Well maybe by this time you are glad that bitcoin reaches at $10K again, it's been long time since then, probably a month of no sight behind the $9k. I don't know why this happens, there's no major event happening as I know, but who am I to doubt this is bitcoin it moves every time. However I'm quite skeptical at it, this might drop sooner or later, we already got a bunch of FOMOs these days who are contented with a small profit out of it. This might be the sign of the growing number of institutional investors, they keep adding and adding funds to promote bitcoin. Or just another trap before plunging to $5K? Are they doing it both in bitcoin and ethereum?Institutional investors are known for creating FOMO in crypto market if they are really growing in big number in crypto space then we can expect a strong bull rally incoming weeks. It is going to be midway of July but we are still unable to pass the biggest psychological resistance level of $10,000.
You just guessed it right mate lol look at the price now after 20 days you just said it Unfortunately, many illegal activities involving Bitcoin
can make institutional investors change their minds. Hopefully from now on can reduce the number of negative things
such as illegal money laundering and hacking attacks. So you can make institutional investors increase the amount of
its investment in Bitcoin.
can make institutional investors change their minds. Hopefully from now on can reduce the number of negative things
such as illegal money laundering and hacking attacks. So you can make institutional investors increase the amount of
its investment in Bitcoin.
The speech about Bitcoin and illegal stuffs can be heard only with the masss media and institutional investors don't listen to this, otherwise they'd all be poor. Only the low information voters do. In another word, they don't care about what is negatively say.
On another side, the US dollar is the most used currency for illegal things, yet you can see it doesn't stop them to trade USD with HTF.
Argumenting with BTC and criminal activities is a double standard to me. It was funny 5 years ago when it was used to criticize BTC but no more
Growing number of institutionnal investors
The only logical next step to happen is that institutional investors get bigger share of Bitcoin. That will be the fuel for next bull market.
So, what you are saying is basically impossible unless they gain knowledge of the situation and decide to level up their game by taking risk and pouring in some capital in the crypto market.
The next bull run will probably be fueled by the new investors after they get to see the market momentum and also, we cannot forget the whales who act as the game changers in all of this. Institutional investors will probably come into play the next year when some fixed set of regulations are released by the government against cryptocurrencies and blockchain.
I see several institutional investors who have started to become interested in Bitcoin, this is a good sign for Bitcoin.
Which ones exactly did you see? I have heard many venture capital funds putting money in bitcoin but only it is hearsay. It is always possible because capital funds are looking to diversify but without insider proof it is difficult to confirm. 
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And I believe in growing Institutional investors can make the price of a Bitcoin pump, if this happens then the mass adoption of Bitcoin is everywhere and will increase in number.
It can be both. The funds look for profit. If they dont see it then will dump. Depending on how much the owners of that fund are willing to risk we can variable changes in the market, not just a pump.Quote
Unfortunately, many illegal activities involving Bitcoin can make institutional investors change their minds. Hopefully from now on can reduce the number of negative things such as illegal money laundering and hacking attacks.
Illegal activities reduce the amount of faith that these investors have on bitcoin. Like I said, they are profit seeking. So if there is any reason to suspect foul play whether proved or not, they are likely to bail out.
I see several institutional investors who have started to become interested in Bitcoin, this is a good sign for Bitcoin.
And I believe in growing Institutional investors can make the price of a Bitcoin pump, if this happens then the mass
adoption of Bitcoin is everywhere and will increase in number. Unfortunately, many illegal activities involving Bitcoin
can make institutional investors change their minds. Hopefully from now on can reduce the number of negative things
such as illegal money laundering and hacking attacks. So you can make institutional investors increase the amount of
its investment in Bitcoin.
And I believe in growing Institutional investors can make the price of a Bitcoin pump, if this happens then the mass
adoption of Bitcoin is everywhere and will increase in number. Unfortunately, many illegal activities involving Bitcoin
can make institutional investors change their minds. Hopefully from now on can reduce the number of negative things
such as illegal money laundering and hacking attacks. So you can make institutional investors increase the amount of
its investment in Bitcoin.
Institutional money coming is a good one because any sector institutional money goes into, it comes with its attending advantages which points to the direction that the trusts is that sector is on the increase, expansion is happening, regulation is knocking and most importantly initiatives is going to be on the increase as well. Put all these together, an untapped areas in short year can become the bride of many but it comes with its costs too because the players might not play according to the rules thereby running everything to the ground then they move on to the next good avenue to continue the cycle.
That would be a great news to start up while there are lots of bad news around, this news of many institutional investors having great interest into cryptocurrency would ease all those negativities we have right now. Maybe they have already come into realization that at times like this, they see more how important the existence and usage of cryptocurrencies are good because the stock market is also directly affected by the pandemic but not the crypto market itself since the issue is related on fiat affairs that is most commonly used by people at time of crisis.
It was so nice to know how people are already realizing the worth of cryptocurrencies most specially talking about Bitcoin. This just proves how as time passes by the popularity of Bitcoin still continue to grow that attracts potential investors to make the crypto community to continuously grow. This is a good implication that as many investors get into cryptocurrencies we can expect a more progressive and bright future for the whole crypto community in the future.
It was so nice to know how people are already realizing the worth of cryptocurrencies most specially talking about Bitcoin. This just proves how as time passes by the popularity of Bitcoin still continue to grow that attracts potential investors to make the crypto community to continuously grow. This is a good implication that as many investors get into cryptocurrencies we can expect a more progressive and bright future for the whole crypto community in the future.
This is a good thing that there are a lot of people right now are having investment into the world.of cryptocurrency it looks like a reflection that the use of the crypto is getting closer to make more adaptation to our community and I think some of them not only make an investment instead using this to pay for other things that are supported by the country.
I hope in southeast Asia they will support the use of it because on this pandemic outbreak physical payment or money is not highly recommended to them.
Investment over survival? I think it's better to save their funds because having a bad time on this pandemic outbreak cannot make an additional earning because not having a job also the market is volatile and there is no assurance that we can make a huge amount on investing bitcoin. But still, it's they want we cannot avoid this.
I hope in southeast Asia they will support the use of it because on this pandemic outbreak physical payment or money is not highly recommended to them.
The reason for the increase in the number of investors in the organization is that the price of Bitcoin is rising bitcoin is almost halving currently the situation in the country is much worse due to the virus. Unemployment is on the rise as various companies lay off their workers but the price of Bitcoin is rising so everyone is leaning towards investing to eliminate their unemployment due to which the number of investors is increasing.
Investment over survival? I think it's better to save their funds because having a bad time on this pandemic outbreak cannot make an additional earning because not having a job also the market is volatile and there is no assurance that we can make a huge amount on investing bitcoin. But still, it's they want we cannot avoid this.
I think investors know where they can gain more if they are going to invest at this time that pandemic continue to damage the economy of every country. Maybe they are comparing the stock market and cryptocurrency and based of that ,they see the big difference if the choose bitcoin or cryptocurrency to invest. The volatility of bitcoin will give them more profit that investing now in stock market.
If you thinking that the cryptocurrency market is a safe heaven during economic crisis then you will learn the hard way when everything goes down, stock market will suffer and so does the cryptocurrency market but the worst affected will still be the stock market as the valuation depends upon the actual performance of the company listed in those exchanges and there is nothing substantial for majority of the companies to show in the coming financial report.
I think investors know where they can gain more if they are going to invest at this time that pandemic continue to damage the economy of every country. Maybe they are comparing the stock market and cryptocurrency and based of that ,they see the big difference if the choose bitcoin or cryptocurrency to invest. The volatility of bitcoin will give them more profit that investing now in stock market.
A market without regulation was one of the strong points for cryptocurrencies but since people started to accept the KYC bullshit, they participated to kill this point. Your stuff about INTL companies adopting cryptos is irrelevant, as I said we're considering institutional investors
I totally agree with you on this point, KYC is the worst thing that happened in the world of Crypto, I see it as an attempt by large institutions and governments to control Crypto and kill decentralization and convert to central. For me, i stay away from any service ask me for KYC.
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