Growing number of necro posters are taking advantage of old threads

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Quote from: Lethn on November 14, 2014, 04:11:39 PM

It can be hard to tell sometimes, but some of these posters are being really obvious, they're bumping threads that were finished ages ago, definitely not innocent, the funny thing is sometimes they've restarted them and others have hopped onto the bandwagon without checking.

I don't think it matters if a conversation continues after it has temporarily ended many months ago as long as what is being discussed is related to the OP of the old thread. There is zero harm in doing this.

Spam has long been an issue for this forum (and I would expect other forums have similar problems). If you go to the last page of the media forum you will find two threads discussing the amount of spam from 2011.

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here are the two threads.

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It can be hard to tell sometimes, but some of these posters are being really obvious, they're bumping threads that were finished ages ago, definitely not innocent, the funny thing is sometimes they've restarted them and others have hopped onto the bandwagon without checking.

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sometimes the discussion you are interested only appears in an older thread. not everyone is keen to begin new threads...but if the posts are meaningless...yes ban them. Is it a new wave of n00bs trying to create puppet accounts? would make more sense to post innocuously in existing active threads and not be noticed...these new guys are pretty easy to spot though...I'm even seeing a few with such idiosyncratic style of writing that you can spot them through several different accounts... wasnt the last wave of this BS related tpo the bearwhale incident?

Jeez all these nickle-dime losers are a real threat to my legit sig income...idiots.

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Quote from: Lethn on November 13, 2014, 12:34:16 PM

I've decided I will show no mercy to these guys because they're clearly spamming, if they have a problem with it they can show themselves as real users and complain.

I've banned several of that type so far. Reviving old threads is fine, there's been a lot of good discussion over the years, and it can be an interesting retrospective sometimes, but some are clearly just spamming.

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I've decided I will show no mercy to these guys because they're clearly spamming, if they have a problem with it they can show themselves as real users and complain.

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Quote from: dbkeys on November 12, 2014, 12:08:18 AM

If someone has an interest in a topic that has been dormant or dead for a while, so what ? I think that unless the new "necro" post is clearly pointless, that can be a good thing. Isn't that kind of the point of having memory ? This is the internet, storage is super cheap. My 2 sats.

I agree with that, it's just a question of being able to distinguish the pointless posts from the good ones and from the pattern of posting I've seen they're really just using them to bump the post count up because they don't seem interested in having a conversation with the other members that reply without looking at the date.

Edit: Pretty damn sure one of them just used this tactic on my business thread! So now I don't know whether that's a legit like for my stuff with them being a newbie or just an attempt to up their post count -_-

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If someone has an interest in a topic that has been dormant or dead for a while, so what ? I think that unless the new "necro" post is clearly pointless, that can be a good thing. Isn't that kind of the point of having memory ? This is the internet, storage is super cheap. My 2 sats.

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What can you do about it ? Use some technical way ?

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There are good dumps, like some made in the speculation subforum. So I think lock all topics after X time would not be a good thing to be made everywhere.

Maybe only in the "other" section, or only in off topic?

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Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:47:59 AM

Necro bumping isn't forbidden, however, if the post breaks any other forum rules (like hilariouandco mentioned), report it.

Yep as long as it is relevant its fine but report it otherwise
Old accounts have a bunch of those in our unread replies if someone posts something in a thread that's old so it's easy to determine when to flag one.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on November 11, 2014, 01:06:36 PM

Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:56:07 AM

Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:50:13 AM

Can the mods not lock the threads...? Not that I do, but if I wanted to post on an old thread - I would... That's the nature of forums.

Mods lock them or it will keep happening... :/

Why should it be locked, if the thread doesn't break the rules? There are tons of discussions that started in 2012 and have been active since. New threads get started to discuss older events. Although some responses might be outdated, I don't see any major reason why old threads should be an exception and get locked just because a user hasn't posted in said thread for X amount of days/months/years.

Agreed, plus we can't be expected to lock every thread as it would be a ridiculous workload. The easiest and better solution is to just delete pointless necrobumps as and when they happen.

In theory it could be an automated process in which topics are automatically locked after "x" amount of time since the last post.

The problem with this is that some old topics will become relevant again when some new piece of information/news comes out (causing a need to either create a duplicate thread or to manually unlock old threads that are now relevant)

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Quote from: hilariousandco on November 11, 2014, 01:06:36 PM

Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:56:07 AM

Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:50:13 AM

Can the mods not lock the threads...? Not that I do, but if I wanted to post on an old thread - I would... That's the nature of forums.

Mods lock them or it will keep happening... :/

Why should it be locked, if the thread doesn't break the rules? There are tons of discussions that started in 2012 and have been active since. New threads get started to discuss older events. Although some responses might be outdated, I don't see any major reason why old threads should be an exception and get locked just because a user hasn't posted in said thread for X amount of days/months/years.

Agreed, plus we can't be expected to lock every thread as it would be a ridiculous workload. The easiest and better solution is to just delete pointless necrobumps as and when they happen.

Quote from: Seketsuna on November 11, 2014, 09:06:50 AM

Most of those newbies are in the sig campaign.

The few necrobumps that I saw this morning didn't have any signatures. Sometimes newbs just newb, though of course there is the possibility that their intention is to join a sig deal in the future, but regardless of that shitposters don't stick around for long. Just keep reporting them and they'll get dealt with.

I'd say it's mostly people using bots or double accounts and they don't have signatures yet as they are working up the ranks and posts to be able to join the signature campaign

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Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:47:59 AM

Necro bumping isn't forbidden, however, if the post breaks any other forum rules (like hilariouandco mentioned), report it.

Thanks for the clarification on that.

Lol elasticband, I don't have much against sig campaigns, as long as they have reasonable requirements they don't necessarily mean spam I think a lot of people have done well in bargaining down the sig campaign creators to using only flat fees and reasonable posting requirements. As for what other people are saying on what I've spotted, yes, it is basically some fairly generic posts I've seen that are being put up on old threads that were finished with a long time ago, ongoing information threads is one thing but these guys are targeting the ones that are from 2012 or sometimes earlier.

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Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:56:07 AM

Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:50:13 AM

Can the mods not lock the threads...? Not that I do, but if I wanted to post on an old thread - I would... That's the nature of forums.

Mods lock them or it will keep happening... :/

Why should it be locked, if the thread doesn't break the rules? There are tons of discussions that started in 2012 and have been active since. New threads get started to discuss older events. Although some responses might be outdated, I don't see any major reason why old threads should be an exception and get locked just because a user hasn't posted in said thread for X amount of days/months/years.

Agreed, plus we can't be expected to lock every thread as it would be a ridiculous workload. The easiest and better solution is to just delete pointless necrobumps as and when they happen.

Quote from: Seketsuna on November 11, 2014, 09:06:50 AM

Most of those newbies are in the sig campaign.

The few necrobumps that I saw this morning didn't have any signatures. Sometimes newbs just newb, though of course there is the possibility that their intention is to join a sig deal in the future, but regardless of that shitposters don't stick around for long. Just keep reporting them and they'll get dealt with.

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all paid sig campaign do is encourage paid trolling, people use bots and multiple accounts to get paid more, sometimes i think 80-90% of posts are made to aid rewards. ban all paid signatures

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Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 09:02:24 AM

Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:56:07 AM

Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:50:13 AM

Can the mods not lock the threads...? Not that I do, but if I wanted to post on an old thread - I would... That's the nature of forums.

Mods lock them or it will keep happening... :/

Why should it be locked, if the thread doesn't break the rules? There are tons of discussions that started in 2012 and have been active since. New threads get started to discuss older events. Although some responses might be outdated, I don't see any major reason why old threads should be an exception and get locked just because a user hasn't posted in said thread for X amount of days/months/years.

I'm not the one moaning... Perhaps people should just "deal with it" then...

I believe the OP's main concern was that some users maliciously attempt to pad their post count with posts like "I agree" or "This is scam", when the website has closed down. In such case, I'd suggest reporting any posts whose main intentione was to increase the amount of posts made.

Well to be fair there are some threads of a few major scams that have never died. One example is the thread about withdrawal problems at GOX, I have seen that be active a number of times over the past several months and gox went down ~9 months ago. Another is the BFL scam accusation that has really been active even though it has been long established they are a scam (although they were only taken down recently)

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Most of those newbies are in the sig campaign.

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Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:56:07 AM

Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:50:13 AM

Can the mods not lock the threads...? Not that I do, but if I wanted to post on an old thread - I would... That's the nature of forums.

Mods lock them or it will keep happening... :/

Why should it be locked, if the thread doesn't break the rules? There are tons of discussions that started in 2012 and have been active since. New threads get started to discuss older events. Although some responses might be outdated, I don't see any major reason why old threads should be an exception and get locked just because a user hasn't posted in said thread for X amount of days/months/years.

I'm not the one moaning... Perhaps people should just "deal with it" then...

I believe the OP's main concern was that some users maliciously attempt to pad their post count with posts like "I agree" or "This is scam", when the website has closed down. In such case, I'd suggest reporting any posts whose main intentione was to increase the amount of posts made.

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Quote from: mprep on November 11, 2014, 08:56:07 AM

Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:50:13 AM

Can the mods not lock the threads...? Not that I do, but if I wanted to post on an old thread - I would... That's the nature of forums.

Mods lock them or it will keep happening... :/

Why should it be locked, if the thread doesn't break the rules? There are tons of discussions that started in 2012 and have been active since. New threads get started to discuss older events. Although some responses might be outdated, I don't see any major reason why old threads should be an exception and get locked just because a user hasn't posted in said thread for X amount of days/months/years.

I'm not the one moaning... Perhaps people should just "deal with it" then...

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Quote from: neuroflux on November 11, 2014, 08:50:13 AM

Can the mods not lock the threads...? Not that I do, but if I wanted to post on an old thread - I would... That's the nature of forums.

Mods lock them or it will keep happening... :/

Why should it be locked, if the thread doesn't break the rules? There are tons of discussions that started in 2012 and have been active since. New threads get started to discuss older events. Although some responses might be outdated, I don't see any major reason why old threads should be an exception and get locked just because a user hasn't posted in said thread for X amount of days/months/years.

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