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Topic: Guardian squashes Craig Wright's Nakamoto Claim as a scam (Read 1313 times)

legendary
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Of course it is a scam. Satoshi stayed anonymous since 2008... Why would he identify himself now? Nothing big happened to make him go public. Doesn't make any sense. He is just after ez money.

He wants to sell his coins. Imagine the panic if those coins started to move without notice and without people getting used to the idea that satoshi might need to cash out. It would be pandemonium.

This is a possibility... Maybe the Australia government already found out he is Satoshi and asked him to pay for the US$450,000,000 income tax. The only way out is to sell the coins to cash out... unless oz government is "Bitcoin Accepted"...



I think in Australia you only pay tax on the capital gains if you sell your coins.

I think the scenario is more like the following: Imagine you create an amazing technological breakthrough, the breakthrough of the century. You are feeling very good and decide to walk away, leaving coins unsold, to do another project. At this point you are feeling invincible, so it's easy to leave the coins untouched, because *of course* you'll have other breakthroughs and make money. But none of your other projects work out. Meanwhile, there are the original coins from your original project, just sitting there. And you think, why am I being a saint over this? This is my invention, that is my fortune.

So you decide to come out and say who you are in preparation for selling your coins. Only the community is furious. Because they believe greed is good only when they are accumulating coins,  and they want BTC to go to the moon - but for that to happen they need Satoshi to stay poor and selflessly refuse to sell any coins for the greater good of making every one else filthy rich! Hence the scream of fury we hear...!
legendary
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Terminated.
scam or not, i am waiting bitcoin rate rise up until $800  Grin
You are obviously here for the wrong reasons.

US$450,000,000 is equal to 1 million bitcoin, imagine if real satoshi comes out with 1 million bitcoin and he forced to pay tax US$450,000,000.
Bitcoin price could down to $0.01 or less.
It would probably be a temporary effect. Basically the market would temporarily collapse due to increased supply on the market; that does not mean that it won't go back up.

Imagine the panic if those coins started to move without notice..
That is pretty much impossible as there are individuals (and groups) that are closely watching those addresses.
hero member
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This article has a line of thinking that I think it is really simple and good: no signature, no proof... Smiley And that's pretty much all there is to the issue.

yeah, i don't get it, why are people even talking about it.

and the messed up part is that the media like BBC are really enjoying the hell out of this news by spreading it. i mean when someone introduces himself as something first thing you ask them is their document like driver's license and signing a message is just like that.
hero member
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scam or not, i am waiting bitcoin rate rise up until $800  Grin
legendary
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This article has a line of thinking that I think it is really simple and good: no signature, no proof... Smiley And that's pretty much all there is to the issue.
legendary
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Of course it is a scam. Satoshi stayed anonymous since 2008... Why would he identify himself now? Nothing big happened to make him go public. Doesn't make any sense. He is just after ez money.

He wants to sell his coins. Imagine the panic if those coins started to move without notice and without people getting used to the idea that satoshi might need to cash out. It would be pandemonium.

This is a possibility... Maybe the Australia government already found out he is Satoshi and asked him to pay for the US$450,000,000 income tax. The only way out is to sell the coins to cash out... unless oz government is "Bitcoin Accepted"...
legendary
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Of course it is a scam. Satoshi stayed anonymous since 2008... Why would he identify himself now? Nothing big happened to make him go public. Doesn't make any sense. He is just after ez money.

He wants to sell his coins. Imagine the panic if those coins started to move without notice and without people getting used to the idea that satoshi might need to cash out. It would be pandemonium.
sr. member
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Regardless if this article is true or not, I always take everything on the Guardian with a grain of salt, I don't know if their tech related articles are more trustworthy.

Best to take pretty much everything churned out by the media with a grain of salt :')

If you ask me. If the guy really was Satoshi, he'd have plenty of supereasy ways of proving it.
legendary
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yes it is a strange interview, they would have invited more reporters and asked sensible questions and so on.
Most of the big news channel dont give any f*cks about bitcoin. They got their attention on other more viral things. (terrorism, ISIS, etc)

Hey, the interviewer is not from a big company, so if the question is weird, it could be because of inexperience.

Unless bitcoin was involved in terrorism but sensible questions should help.
Yes, I avoid fiat issues by permanent members of the security council for just that reason.
legendary
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Dan Kaminsky -> Andresen:
``` What is going on here?
    There's clear unambiguous cryptographic evidence of fraud and you're lending credibility to the idea that a public key operation could should or must remain private?
```


Andresen:

 ```    Yeah, what the heck?

    I was as surprised by the 'proof' as anyone, and don't yet know exactly what is going on.

    It was a mistake to agree to publish my post before I saw his– I assumed his post would simply be a signed message anybody could easily verify.

    And it was probably a mistake to even start to play the Find Satoshi game, but I DO feel grateful to Satoshi.

    If I'm lending credibility to the idea that a public key operation should remain private, that is entirely accidental. OF COURSE he should just publish a signed message or (equivalently) move some btc through the key associated with an early block.

    Feel free to quote or republish this email.
legendary
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Regardless if this article is true or not, I always take everything on the Guardian with a grain of salt, I don't know if their tech related articles are more trustworthy.
They are definitely much better than those that have jumped on the "is 100% Satoshi" train.

Most of the big news channel dont give any f*cks about bitcoin. They got their attention on other more viral things. (terrorism, ISIS, etc)
Not necessarily. However, we can clearly see here that their 'research' is inadequate. Most of the news revolving around Bitcoin tend to be false.
hero member
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yes it is a strange interview, they would have invited more reporters and asked sensible questions and so on.
Most of the big news channel dont give any f*cks about bitcoin. They got their attention on other more viral things. (terrorism, ISIS, etc)

Hey, the interviewer is not from a big company, so if the question is weird, it could be because of inexperience.

Unless bitcoin was involved in terrorism but sensible questions should help. If, I'm satoshi I'll tell the media that I'll create a sell wall then I'll create one. But I'll create a sell wall higher than the market price so it won't affect the current market, basically just to prove that I'm really satoshi. Or maybe he's just nuts to think deeply nowadays.
sr. member
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Of course it is a scam. Satoshi stayed anonymous since 2008... Why would he identify himself now? Nothing big happened to make him go public. Doesn't make any sense. He is just after ez money.

and maybe get some fame, always nice to have people thinking you invented bitcoins Smiley
legendary
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Regardless if this article is true or not, I always take everything on the Guardian with a grain of salt, I don't know if their tech related articles are more trustworthy.
full member
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yes it is a strange interview, they would have invited more reporters and asked sensible questions and so on.
Most of the big news channel dont give any f*cks about bitcoin. They got their attention on other more viral things. (terrorism, ISIS, etc)

Hey, the interviewer is not from a big company, so if the question is weird, it could be because of inexperience.
newbie
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yes it is a strange interview, they would have invited more reporters and asked sensible questions and so on.
hero member
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Ah! Would that wallet.dat work with the latest iteration of Bitcoin Core or at least be able to 'upgrade'  so it could using progressive versions of the core?

I would be pretty sure that it would work (or if not then that at least any private keys could be fairly easily extracted from it).


Mmmm. So would have been usable unless one had deliberately made them unusable by using them with a newer node. encrypting them and deliberately destroying all other copies. Thanks for that info - obvious to the old-timers I guess!  Smiley
legendary
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Ah! Would that wallet.dat work with the latest iteration of Bitcoin Core or at least be able to 'upgrade'  so it could using progressive versions of the core?

I would be pretty sure that it would work (or if not then that at least any private keys could be fairly easily extracted from it).
hero member
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The only other explanation would be if he only had one wallet from the early days (I find this implausable for someone developing the very fist blockchain coin with testnets and then production testing etc) and had inadvertently lost/forgotten the passphrase.

The original wallet implementation did not have a passphrase (in fact that wasn't added until after Satoshi had disappeared from memory).


Ah! Would that wallet.dat work with the latest iteration of Bitcoin Core or at least be able to 'upgrade'  so it could using progressive versions of the core?
Also if Wright has all of Kleiman's BTC stuff on a pen drive then this still further cast into doubt not only Wright's claims but also those claiming that Kleiman was 'Satoshi'.
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