[GUIDE] 10 complete steps for new casino into this forum - page 5.

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Quote from: davis196 on March 06, 2022, 12:50:18 AM

That's a pretty good list,but most of things mentioned in the list are just common sense.
Every person(or a team),that wants to start a crypto casino is probably aware or these points.
Creating a finished and fully functional website>buying copper membership/creating good ANN post>starting a signature campaign>providing customer service and answering questions/solving problems.This is just common sense.
However,I'm overwhelmed by the amount of unprofessional announcement threads and not-fully-functional casinos being promoted here on the forum.Some people need to understand,that half-assing everything is NOT the path to success.Attention to detail is the key to every successful business.

As you wrote yourself, these are pretty basic rules that every casino should follow, but you have also noticed that many of them don't do that. This is why this guide is so important - for those who don't know it.
From my observations, many casino owners are unaware of Bitcointalk's marketing potential. If this is the case, then they should either read and learn all the points presented by the OP very well, or hire a person who has good experience on the forum.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 04, 2022, 02:39:09 AM

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

Sometimes it is hard for the casino owners to publish, maintain the ANN threads and also it is not very easy to start signature marketing campaign by themselves. What they can do preferably, is to hire an experienced manager here who can not only handle the signature campaigns for that gambling site but at the same time, he can use his resources to develop a perfect attractive ann thread.

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To start a casino first they need good team who can solve any technical issues and make their site complete before starting any promotional works because if there is any glitch the iser or the casino might lose huge money. Be transparent is what the next option I will choose, which will gain trust and attract more investors so the casino can grow bigger since its not really possible to grow with your own money alone.

Then add games which is unique so user can play on your casino, if its just same as others it will take too long to bring the traffic.

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Quote from: Botnake on March 06, 2022, 06:27:50 AM

Quote from: Despairo on March 04, 2022, 02:39:09 AM

1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

It's basic and the most important part because everything starts when you have a lot of money, the admin should not stop when he has the site ready, he should have more in the official launching because he'll have to give bonuses and giveaways and of course promotions, the hot wallet should always fill, casino operations is not a token promotion where the operation will run when investors start investing, you need to build so they will come.

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Quote from: Botnake on March 06, 2022, 06:27:50 AM

Quote from: Despairo on March 04, 2022, 02:39:09 AM

1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

This item 1 is usually ignored by fly-by-night casinos because they are thinking that they can lure users that will send money to their site without any question. But if you are sincere in this business, bankroll is the number 1 to be taken care of. This is why you need private investors if you can't afford to shell out your own funds. Before, if you are a new casino here, some members will ask for your bankroll amount along with the address where it is being stored at. But now, very few are disclosing this amount, so maybe, users stop inquiring about this aspect because it is hard to extract from the owners.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 04, 2022, 02:39:09 AM

Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.

Many new casinos doesn't understand how this forum work, forum rules and how to advertise on this forum. Some casinos just started creating topic with poor plain text announcement and some might doesn't even complete developing his sites. How you can make someone move to your new casino while their old casino are better than yours? No one will want to try out your sites.We can't blame them since new accounts wouldn't recognized this forum yet, this is why I create this thread. This 10 steps will help you understand to promote your brand new casino in this forum.

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

These are some excellent tips that you put together and will help any budding casino owner who wants to get into the game. There is one thing that will be crucial to any casino or gambling operation - security. As a place where "anonymous" crypto currency is moving in and out, you will have people constantly trying to attack your site in all sorts of ingenuous ways. If you're using a pre-built clone type solution you'll probably have a bit more protection as it has been tested by others before you, however if you're using new and custom code then expect all sorts of unexpected exploits. They'll also be people who will attempt denial of service on your site, you cannot make money if it is down - so you will probably have to pay for some expensive mitigation which I guess comes back to the first point, you will need a lot of money to stay up.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 04, 2022, 02:39:09 AM

1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

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For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.

Sometimes new casinos just want to make sure the license is legal and for me, that's normal although sometimes there are stricter rules like KYC requirements etc.
The most important thing is that new casinos must build a good reputation, we here have been familiar with gambling for a long time, of course, we will choose an old and safe casino, so far we have played, now on the other hand, new casinos to build it always offer bigger promotions but indeed it is our choice which one is better best.

Curacao license nowadays can be easily acquired if you have money to cover all the fees but since they still an audit and review, Scam new casino typically turn off on acquiring and just go for a poor marketing in forum or social media. Most of this scam new casino offers an insane promotion or compy the name of famous casino to catch attention of gamblers. For me even the license system of Curacao is not that widely reputable, atleast they require casino to register under a legit company and declare a physical address for user protection. Only few casino turn into scam that has a license, most of them only accused by unknown user without proof.

That's why I don't called a valid proof since as of now many casino choose to get a curacao license since the requirement is quite easy for owners who have money to spend on the requirements they ask. I always look for long time running casino which got good feedback from its own community since we can really on user experience and other things like promotion or contest is just a bonus for this.

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8. Get a gambling license.

Some casinos don't have one, and that doesn't make for them scams. A good provably fair engine can cover a lack of license

A good license still gives the user some peace of mind though. Not that I'm saying all licensed casinos are good, hence the word "good" before the license. Curacao, for example, is a license afaik that can easily be obtained by anyone, it doesn't make it a bad one, but it can easily be obtained as long as you have the money afaik. Also, I don't think people often check provably fair at the start? Pretty sure casinos would put priority in wanting more exposure so they'd want something that could let them have an initial good reputation at first glance.

For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.

That is why the casino must be able to manage its project by offering real promotions that draw the attention of gamblers and help it bring in new customers, and here the casino needs a huge budget to achieve this.

Promotion is needed , because that will lure the players and gamblers to enter and deposit in your site but never forget that what needed most is the ability of the site to bring answers to all problem because this will be like a fire ignited if their support missed addressing their players problem specially in withdrawals .

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Quote from: Despairo on March 04, 2022, 02:39:09 AM

7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
Many people really want a friendly casino which doesn't really strict about their rules. Don't directly suspect broke your rules someone when they win huge amount, you need to accept it since you offer such odds and maximum bet. If you still suspect someone abusing your rules, you need to prepare the proof to prove it. If not, no one will believe since you're new casino and doesn't have any reputation yet.

Actually it is very common thing in this industry where there is a huge win, the casino will do further check first before releasing the money. I believe it is written in their Terms and Services, it does not mean that they are too strict with the rules but they are doing as what is written in their terms. In case where there are casino denying to pay huge win with a reason of abuse but there is no proof, I would say the casino is scammer instead of being strict with rules.

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That's a pretty good list,but most of things mentioned in the list are just common sense.
Every person(or a team),that wants to start a crypto casino is probably aware or these points.
Creating a finished and fully functional website>buying copper membership/creating good ANN post>starting a signature campaign>providing customer service and answering questions/solving problems.This is just common sense.
However,I'm overwhelmed by the amount of unprofessional announcement threads and not-fully-functional casinos being promoted here on the forum.Some people need to understand,that half-assing everything is NOT the path to success.Attention to detail is the key to every successful business.

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Quote from: acroman08 on March 04, 2022, 11:06:01 AM

I agree with all of this. I've seen too many casinos advertising here that are usually unfinished, too strict, too suspicious, terrible ANN thread, lack of activity after creating an ANN thread. I can't even remember how many times I have suggested to their representative/ANN thread creator to read the forum rules since they keep posting multiple times in a row.

Indeed. What I dont like is after creating the thread there's no further updates and no one is answering the questions (in short abondoning the thread after creating it). How can they attract gamblers if they show less concern and effort right?

Well you are right, there are too many of them here, --and after posting their announcement thread they will no longer respond or perhaps after 2-3 pages, they will no longer reply on the thread. However, I like the effort that gambling casinos are actively giving updates on their ANN thread.
OP saying was right, these are very helpful most especially how they will market here their casino.

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Quote from: acroman08 on March 04, 2022, 11:06:01 AM

I agree with all of this. I've seen too many casinos advertising here that are usually unfinished, too strict, too suspicious, terrible ANN thread, lack of activity after creating an ANN thread. I can't even remember how many times I have suggested to their representative/ANN thread creator to read the forum rules since they keep posting multiple times in a row.

Indeed. What I dont like is after creating the thread there's no further updates and no one is answering the questions (in short abondoning the thread after creating it). How can they attract gamblers if they show less concern and effort right?

Thats why this guide of op is useful to those casino owners/representatives who are planning to introduce their casino here.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on March 05, 2022, 02:39:27 PM

3. Create announcement with well organized design.
My advice to any casino owner who wants to advertise his service in this forum but he is not familiar with it is to hire one of the known managers to create and manage the Ann thread.

It's much better that the owner of the casino is the one opening the announcement thread so they will have full control on what's they are going to show on the title and the first post, so if their contract with the managers cease they have full control of their announcement thread, they can hire managers to manage and open a thread for them but when it comes to the official announcement it should be the gambling operator

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on March 05, 2022, 05:53:28 PM

Great advises and hopefully the new casinos will take time on reading and analyzing on which part they lacking. In the past, I've seen those threads that have been posted and made but upon looking at their website, they're incomplete and not yet finished and not yet ready to launch.
It is an important thing that before they launch, everything is prepared and well done so that their customers are going to see that they've been made well and not just toying around with possible deposits that will be made.

If the casino itself is sincere in launching their gambling business, they won't publish their site half-way of their development. Because this will give a not-so-good first impression to players. Also, it will give a notion that they are in a hurry to possibly attract naive players. If you are here in the forum long enough, you already know by now how to spot substandard casinos. If you are a casino owner, before launching your platform, more than likely, you also did your tons of research especially if you are venturing the crypto casinos.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 04, 2022, 02:39:09 AM

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Excellent guide, and of course I agree with everything.
There is definitely a bit more detail, but it is a great tip for casino owners to get started with advertising their service on Bitcointalk.
We see many times that casinos simply don't know how to use the potential of this forum because they just don't know it. The complexity of all this also shows that casino owners should consider employing a specialist who has extensive experience in Bitcointalk. Thanks to this, they could achieve much better marketing results and possibly save a lot of money on expensive outside advertising.

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Great advises and hopefully the new casinos will take time on reading and analyzing on which part they lacking. In the past, I've seen those threads that have been posted and made but upon looking at their website, they're incomplete and not yet finished and not yet ready to launch.
It is an important thing that before they launch, everything is prepared and well done so that their customers are going to see that they've been made well and not just toying around with possible deposits that will be made.

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Gambling sites are subject to certain laws and regulations, depending on the license.

This is why I believe that it is not necessary for a cryptocurrency casino to have a license.
Of course, if security is more important to someone, there are many casinos on the market that have much more security than just license. However, when it comes to cryptocurrency casinos, anonymity is a very big asset, at least for me. Therefore, I prefer to play in those that do not have a license and thus do not have KYC verification.

Having a license is a big thing, many gamblers prefer to play on those casinos and they believed that they are safe if they gamble on those casinos, that’s why many casinos today are seeking to have a license. Well, there are still some site that didn’t ask for any KYC even if they are regulated and have a license, though of course KYC can still be asked later on. This guide should be more broad, making a new gambling site requires a lot of works.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on March 05, 2022, 02:39:27 PM

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7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
It's better to have a FAQ page and a clear and well detailed ToS page than to be lenient and don't enforce rules.

^ This caught my attention, in what way we can consider as strict about the rules?
A KYC? IP restriction? or anything else that I did not mention.
But that is a good idea, there should be a FAQ that gamblers need to read because I know a few of us did not read TOS especially if this is long to read like it reach 3-4 pages. However, TOS should need to spend time before using such a gambling platform so that we know those very crucial rules that we should be avoided.

Well from a legal point of view as well as from the point of view of other's countries regulations, I do not think that online gambling casinos get to decide their rules. In fact, they are pretty much all enforcing the same rules, more or less.

Thats really something you need to talk to a legal consultant about. Like a lawyer specializing in online gambling casinos.

It should not matter how easy or hard or long the TOS is to read, if its required by law then thats that. No room for user experience and modification.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on March 05, 2022, 02:39:27 PM

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7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
It's better to have a FAQ page and a clear and well detailed ToS page than to be lenient and don't enforce rules.

^ This caught my attention, in what way we can consider as strict about the rules?
A KYC? IP restriction? or anything else that I did not mention.
But that is a good idea, there should be a FAQ that gamblers need to read because I know a few of us did not read TOS especially if this is long to read like it reach 3-4 pages. However, TOS should need to spend time before using such a gambling platform so that we know those very crucial rules that we should be avoided.

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