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legendary
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I know it seems that you and Bitmain have had some sort of falling out....but your guide was so much help when I got my first C1...new from BM.
Bought another recently from an eBay seller. Well packed and setup, once I got through moving the red wire in pump/fans harness so it got 12 volts instead of 3 volts, I found I couldn't reset it. Lucky I found the router had assigned it 192.168.1.59.....that got me to log in, but root/root doesn't work.

First, why am I not getting a reset? Next do you think the 192.168.1.59 is really its ip and not just what my router assigning it? I set my first one to 192.168.1.200 as a "fixed ip", no telling what it would show if it was just plugged into another router. There again, I got to the login screen with the 192.168.1.59.

I've emailed the seller for login but I'd really rather reset. Conflicting info between Bitmain manual and your guide about resets and can't find much more on it.
Thank you in advance.
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legendary
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I am missing one barb to complete the system and was wondering is it was possible to leave the return-to-res hoses hanging in the reservoir instead of tied held by a barb.

In other words, I want to omit the barb fitting where there is no need for water tightness. (In my mind there isn't a need)

Your proposed solution is fine as long as you're comfortable with the risks of leaks or things getting knocked over. Without a barb, the returning fluid will impart some force on the radiator.

As the system heats up, doesn't it get under pressure?  So won't this "leak" or just flow out unless you have a very large reservoir and lots of air in that reservoir?

His solution is better than an enclosed one for 'too much pressure', so that's not a problem. Typically the acrylic tubing is sufficient to balance any changes, and the air in the reservoir can be compressed.
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I am missing one barb to complete the system and was wondering is it was possible to leave the return-to-res hoses hanging in the reservoir instead of tied held by a barb.

In other words, I want to omit the barb fitting where there is no need for water tightness. (In my mind there isn't a need)

Your proposed solution is fine as long as you're comfortable with the risks of leaks or things getting knocked over. Without a barb, the returning fluid will impart some force on the radiator.

As the system heats up, doesn't it get under pressure?  So won't this "leak" or just flow out unless you have a very large reservoir and lots of air in that reservoir?
legendary
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I am missing one barb to complete the system and was wondering is it was possible to leave the return-to-res hoses hanging in the reservoir instead of tied held by a barb.

In other words, I want to omit the barb fitting where there is no need for water tightness. (In my mind there isn't a need)

Your proposed solution is fine as long as you're comfortable with the risks of leaks or things getting knocked over. Without a barb, the returning fluid will impart some force on the radiator.
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So after going to war with Bitmain and SysCooling, went with a Darkside LP360 radiator.

Thing is, no barbs came with it and SysCooling's radiator have built in barbs; SC radiator lasted about 6 days; so I have a dilemma.

That said, my question is simple...

I am missing one barb to complete the system and was wondering is it was possible to leave the return-to-res hoses hanging in the reservoir instead of tied held by a barb.

In other words, I want to omit the barb fitting where there is no need for water tightness. (In my mind there isn't a need)

Here's what I intend to do...

Look at this reservoir from Swiftec: http://www.swiftech.com/mcp35xreservoir.aspx

As you see, there are 2 holes for barbs on the sidewall, one on about 3/4 way up and one about an inch below it.

Basically, I can fill up the reservoir up until the point about 1 cm below where the top barb on the sidewall is.

Technically, it's just a missing barb but the part would not be submerged in liquid at all.

As a temp solution of course, a barb is on it's way but Canada's a big fucking country will take time to get here.

My main concern is damage to the pump and existing system components whilst running with a missing a component.

My miner's been offline for a week now, I wanna put that sucker back online now I got a DECENT RADIATOR!

Lastly, unreal how crappy SysCooling is, the only thing worth a crap in that kit is the harness, fans and the 1 spare barb lol

I'll try it now just for shits and giggles and will update... surely liquid cooled miners won't go out of style.

PS: My hoses have turned red from being beside my red PSU cables  Undecided  Grin

So I got my temp solution... works best when I use the top port since the side port causes too much splash...

Works like a charm and the 3 additional fans on a radiators makes everything a lot cooler.

Swiftec MCP50x + res + Darkside LP360 + 6 fans = Sheer bliss
hero member
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So after going to war with Bitmain and SysCooling, went with a Darkside LP360 radiator.

Thing is, no barbs came with it and SysCooling's radiator have built in barbs; SC radiator lasted about 6 days; so I have a dilemma.

That said, my question is simple...

I am missing one barb to complete the system and was wondering is it was possible to leave the return-to-res hoses hanging in the reservoir instead of tied held by a barb.

In other words, I want to omit the barb fitting where there is no need for water tightness. (In my mind there isn't a need)

Here's what I intend to do...

Look at this reservoir from Swiftec: http://www.swiftech.com/mcp35xreservoir.aspx

As you see, there are 2 holes for barbs on the sidewall, one on about 3/4 way up and one about an inch below it.

Basically, I can fill up the reservoir up until the point about 1 cm below where the top barb on the sidewall is.

Technically, it's just a missing barb but the part would not be submerged in liquid at all.

As a temp solution of course, a barb is on it's way but Canada's a big fucking country will take time to get here.

My main concern is damage to the pump and existing system components whilst running with a missing a component.

My miner's been offline for a week now, I wanna put that sucker back online now I got a DECENT RADIATOR!

Lastly, unreal how crappy SysCooling is, the only thing worth a crap in that kit is the harness, fans and the 1 spare barb lol

I'll try it now just for shits and giggles and will update... surely liquid cooled miners won't go out of style.

PS: My hoses have turned red from being beside my red PSU cables  Undecided  Grin
legendary
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i don't have a camera but i triple checked the picture u posted with the tubes and thats what mine looks like. apparently there was a loop in my tube? i moved them around and the liquid started flowing.. and i had to put a little more in the reservoir. but now its all in the 40's. i'll post again if things go bad again (hopefully its nothing serious again)

it has now been over an hour and the temps are UNDER 40 so all is well, i guess i just need to make sure of certain things before i start freakin Cheesy

Glad to hear it. You can buy some anti kink springs online if you think its liable to happen again.
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i don't have a camera but i triple checked the picture u posted with the tubes and thats what mine looks like. apparently there was a loop in my tube? i moved them around and the liquid started flowing.. and i had to put a little more in the reservoir. but now its all in the 40's. i'll post again if things go bad again (hopefully its nothing serious again)

it has now been over an hour and the temps are UNDER 40 so all is well, i guess i just need to make sure of certain things before i start freakin Cheesy
legendary
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it pulls liquid in,and the configuration seems to be the same as in your videos

Can you take some pictures for me please?
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it pulls liquid in,and the configuration seems to be the same as in your videos
legendary
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i have my radiator in the window with it cracked open a lil, there is snow on the ground.... and yet i get these temps..
i have a 1000 w evga g1 psu powering it.
the #'s before the oooooo are the temps.. something seems really wrong here. i filled it with some chillblast code blood coolant or something like that, do i need something different?Huh in the summer its gonna be hot as *&%*&

Coolant wont make a difference, are you sure your pump is running? To where and how is it plugged in?
newbie
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i have my radiator in the window with it cracked open a lil, there is snow on the ground.... and yet i get these temps..
i have a 1000 w evga g1 psu powering it.
Chain#   ASIC#   Frequency   Temp   ASIC status
1
16
250
65
oooooooo oooooooo
2
16
250
77
oooooooo oooooooo
3
16
250
66
oooooooo oooooooo
4
16
250
77
oooooooo oooooooo

the #'s before the oooooo are the temps.. something seems really wrong here. i filled it with some chillblast code blood coolant or something like that, do i need something different?Huh in the summer its gonna be hot as *&%*&
legendary
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But isnt that a waste of a hashing board power plug Smiley seems kind of silly to plug it into the hashing board power port then only have one power feed to that board seriously whos the genious at syscool that thought that one up.. Smiley

Previously you had to open up the case which was annoying as hell.


I pigged tailed mine in but seen another picture on another board here a guy plugging it into the periph port on the psu so when i get a few minutes today thats the route I am going to take rather than having it pigtailed into the pcie cable Smiley Thats 15 more watts that board can have.. That the pump draws.

Pump and fans are about 30W. Be careful about the wiring when plugging directly into the PSU as the pins may not be the same as PCI-E. Its worth looking up your PSU's manual.


if i put it right in the window it vent outside however the s3's exhaust blow into it and cause the temps to rise on the C1. Ugh need a bigger window haha. Gots to say all in all I think i would of been happier with the S5 for $100 more, the liquid cooling is a pain and when you figure in the fluid cost, if changed annually, well not sure I am real big on this liquid cooling.

I doubt you'll still be running a C1 after a year. You might be able to play around with the stands to get the radiator to stand up on one end. Preferably you'd want the tubes at the top, but more practically you're going to get them at the bottom.


Now the S5 looks nice sounds awesome but I give it a big thumbs down for the case design.Really it has no top!!! how long before my 4 yr old drops a hot wheels in there and shorts it out hahaha. Dust accumulation etc. They could atleast throw a mesh screen on it. Naturally i will be ordering a couple and will probably put a mesh on top. Not really digging the single fan either or the single heatsinks seems like they are cutting corners a bit to make more profit.

Yup, S5s are not as kid friendly as S3s. The main driver is weight, shipping less metal around the world means lower delivery prices.


Keep up the great work Dogie I always come to your guides when i get new hardware. They should hire you to write there manuals, and why cant they spend $.20 and print one out and ship it haha antminer irks me about that. I guess that .20 x 1 millon units ads up I get it all in the name of profits, but come on what happend to quality concerns customer service and such. I know I know China haha.

Thanks. I do rewrite the manuals into English but I don't have much control as to their content. Yeah that's a hell of a lot of paper, although for something like the S5 it should be plug and play. PSU in, ethernet in, find IP.
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But isnt that a waste of a hashing board power plug Smiley seems kind of silly to plug it into the hashing board power port then only have one power feed to that board seriously whos the genious at syscool that thought that one up.. Smiley

I pigged tailed mine in but seen another picture on another board here a guy plugging it into the periph port on the psu so when i get a few minutes today thats the route I am going to take rather than having it pigtailed into the pcie cable Smiley Thats 15 more watts that board can have.. That the pump draws.

Thus far I am enjoying this C1's hashing power and efficency however I have to say I am not impressed by its temperatures they are no that much  lower than my S3+'s only a cpl degrees. Which is fine i guess but the problem I am finding I have my S3's lined up by the window and they push all the hot air out, this damn radiator doesnt push it that far and the exhaust drifts up before it reaches the window. if i put it right in the window it vent outside however the s3's exhaust blow into it and cause the temps to rise on the C1. Ugh need a bigger window haha.
Gots to say all in all I think i would of been happier with the S5 for $100 more, the liquid cooling is a pain and when you figure in the fluid cost, if changed annually, well not sure I am real big on this liquid cooling. And if it ever springs a leak or the pump fails just to much extra hassle to worry about.

Now the S5 looks nice sounds awesome but I give it a big thumbs down for the case design.Really it has no top!!! how long before my 4 yr old drops a hot wheels in there and shorts it out hahaha. Dust accumulation etc. They could atleast throw a mesh screen on it. Naturally i will be ordering a couple and will probably put a mesh on top. Not really digging the single fan either or the single heatsinks seems like they are cutting corners a bit to make more profit. I will wait until atleast batch 6 before purchasing with antminers track record  the first batches are always problamatic Smiley

Keep up the great work Dogie I always come to your guides when i get new hardware. They should hire you to write there manuals, and why cant they spend $.20 and print one out and ship it haha antminer irks me about that. I guess that .20 x 1 millon units ads up I get it all in the name of profits, but come on what happend to quality concerns customer service and such. I know I know China haha.

legendary
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So I got my C1 in this afternoon,everythingis together no leaks Thanks for the guide. The instruction that came with the cooling kit (and the wiring harness) state to plug it into the boards PCI-e slot... what the hell? Smiley I see you are showing opening up the miner and pluggins it into the fan control on the hashing board.

Can you explain why you chose to power it there? wouldnt that regualate the pump and fan speed dependant upon temp?
I am confused....
Well I cut the pci-e connector off the harness they sent and pigtailed it into the pci-e from the powersupply as I am pretty emphatic about connecting alll 8 pcie connectors Smiley I am using a 1300w evga supernova G2 the funny thing about this one is there are 6 pice leads and 2 of them have a double connector kind of like the lepa 850 i use on S3+ unit ----(6+2pcie)---(6+2pcie) so heres what i got connected

PSU
|-----------(pcie)  Board 1
|-----------(pcie)  Board 1
|-----------(pcie)  Board 2
|-----------(pcie)  Board 2
|-----------(pcie)----(6+2pcie)---(6+2pcie)  Board 3
|-----------(pcie)----(6+2pcie)---(6+2pcie) Board 4

I am a little confuse about this PSU cable setup they advertised 8 x pcie 6+2 but when i get it there are only 6 plugins on the psu the last 2 those double cable Sad
As note did ordere a lepa 850w for a s3+ last week and its got the same cables and they advertise 4x pcie but only has 2 connectors on the psu for these double cables errr these damn PSU companies

So 2 questions #1 the water system powering?
#2 whats up with this damn psu and are these double cables okay?

My guide shows the original harness that plugged into a fan header on the C1. The new header plugs into a PCI-E connector on the C1 instead so you don't have to open the case.

The C1 uses 8x PCI-E 6 pin connectors, NOT 8 pin so don't worry about that.
sr. member
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what connector did you use from the PSU surely you didnt waste a pcie for it Smiley what other connectors run 12v off of the psu?

Just use a 4 pin moles power cable that comes with the power supply and a 4 pin molex to fan adapter that usually come with aftermarket fans or buy a fan controller.
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the kit they just sent me, had a pci-e plug that was shown to plug into the slot near the fan, i see no way of connecting any of this to the slot on the board as the videos show, also seem to be getting a low hash rate
your picture shows only 4 holes on time mine hAs like 8 in 2 rows so far its only hitting 800 gh/s i'll see what it does over night.
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what connector did you use from the PSU surely you didnt waste a pcie for it Smiley what other connectors run 12v off of the psu?
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The fan connector was on the original C1, they then updated it with the PCIe connector.  I didn't use it myself and simply connected the fans to the power supply directly.
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