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I will go by leaving this short advise for every new comer gaamblers that they shouldn't compare themselves with the old and experienced gamblers because they know how they go about their ways in gambling despite they may behave nasty i some of the ways they gambles, we don't have to follow others footsteps and if we must do, we have to be deliberate in knowing what we are doing and whom to follow in other not to get us misleaded through their own way of gambling.

To follow someone in their gambling is not ideal. A gambler need to build a strategy that they can confidently rely on so that even when you lose, you won't have to blame another person. It is instructive to make your own analysis of your game and not to rely on what others do. Play with caution and not to over stake your budget that is the beginning of addiction because you see yourself chasing the loses but if you maintain a low budget you would only be enjoying the thrill especially in football betting. Another advise is take your time and don't be in a haste for winning and when it is time your own winning will come.

We don't actually need to follow certain activities or strategies made by people since for sure that it will never work on our side. Much better to get multiple ideas then apply it together so that we can get more better result. Its really needed for us to develop our own strategy and do some good analysis so we can learn something that can be used for long term. Thru experiences for sure we can face a lot of things including struggles and winnings then this could help us to became more better gambler. Although addiction might possible to came but once we are settled out and became a experience bettor for sure those possible addiction will turn into good especially if we develop good discipline and we are more careful on the bets we put base on our own observations.
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I will go by leaving this short advise for every new comer gaamblers that they shouldn't compare themselves with the old and experienced gamblers because they know how they go about their ways in gambling despite they may behave nasty i some of the ways they gambles, we don't have to follow others footsteps and if we must do, we have to be deliberate in knowing what we are doing and whom to follow in other not to get us misleaded through their own way of gambling.

To follow someone in their gambling is not ideal. A gambler need to build a strategy that they can confidently rely on so that even when you lose, you won't have to blame another person. It is instructive to make your own analysis of your game and not to rely on what others do. Play with caution and not to over stake your budget that is the beginning of addiction because you see yourself chasing the loses but if you maintain a low budget you would only be enjoying the thrill especially in football betting. Another advise is take your time and don't be in a haste for winning and when it is time your own winning will come.
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You must do your own research if you want to have a good outcome cause once you are too greedy then there's a  high chance that you will become a losser cause you don't know if that casino is good and trusted enough or not. And also the importance of Do your own research is you can decide if you are going to play with them or not  cause if the outcome of your research is that casino is not just good and there are many isues then you must avoid with them.
That is what i wanted to mention right here because one can not rely on the guidance or advice of others to make such vital and risky decisions as long as it involves gambling and investment, these two things require an individual input and contributions to realize the real nature and of things since there may be individual differences at times.
Gambling may have general rules that can work for everyone,  but gambling has its own pattern and that pattern depends largely on individual peculiarity at the time and that is what makes up for a large portion of things and what the reality becomes for the individual's involved.
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I will go by leaving this short advise for every new comer gaamblers that they shouldn't compare themselves with the old and experienced gamblers because they know how they go about their ways in gambling despite they may behave nasty i some of the ways they gambles, we don't have to follow others footsteps and if we must do, we have to be deliberate in knowing what we are doing and whom to follow in other not to get us misleaded through their own way of gambling.
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You must do your own research if you want to have a good outcome cause once you are too greedy then there's a  high chance that you will become a losser cause you don't know if that casino is good and trusted enough or not. And also the importance of Do your own research is you can decide if you are going to play with them or not  cause if the outcome of your research is that casino is not just good and there are many isues then you must avoid with them.
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It'll take more than just promising some new comers benefits and bonuses to convince people to sign up and use your site, you should probably try telling the people the importance of of your platform and maybe give us a few reasons why we should choose your platform over several others, because every gambler here definitely have their preferred sites and platform so just promising newcomers certain benefits isn't enough to make people choose your platform. A lot of sites out there promises newcomers benefits and bonuses and very few actually keep to their words. I know of a site that also promised over 1000% first timers first deposit bonus. I sign up being attracted by the bonus, made a good first time deposit, they did actually give me the bonus and I used the bonus to stake a bet, fortunately for me I won the bet only to find out I can't withdraw whatever winnings I make with the bonus.

I wouldn't want to believe I'm the only that's not moved by sites that promise newcomers benefits. So try telling us why your platform is great and why we should choose it over others.
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You're absolutely right, why should he behaved in such manners if not that he's such kind of person that should not be trusted for anything, a reputable gambling platform representative will only stay to maintain having a particular thread to have the discussions on what he represent being made and follow them up, and not that they will be going around creating threads that looks like spamming in the community.
Well people are still learning about it mate , they have been in the circle for many years yet there are still others that being victimized or being fooled by their tactics .
We must be willing to check the account first and what they are doing before those post comes out, because sometimes there are even Old account (some also have Positive tags) that turns out being used in this kind of manners, some are being hacked or some being sold accounts.
so let us all be vigilant before dealing in what they are offering us.
If there's something odd or something suspicious then it would really be just that right or wise on making some post on trying out to verify something specially into this forum.
Community members are really that vigilant when it comes to potential scam attempt and fraud on which it is true that even reputed accounts could really be used on such
purpose or such plans on which newbies do really easily get victimized on this what and this is why we should really be that watchful.
Yes this forum is the best possible place to lay you hands on varieing information and opinions on things,  reason why bitcointalk review is the most trusted by some of us the members,  this is because this forum members are vast in knowledge and the forum allows us to discuss ask equations and attract with one another at some point and this make us to have access to first hand informantions.

Alot of time some forks tend to get confused about some things,  but the moment they locate this forum,  and make an attempt to get access to some information,  it becomes easy for them to avoid potential scams.

For those that already made it here to this forum and have also found a well reputed gambling platform for choose, then they have made a right decision on their gambling experience already because it's going to serve them something different from those whose gambling platforms were not located from here, but back to the gamblers themselves, a newbie gamblers do have a reason why he's that interested in gambling and not until he gets them as he has desired, he may not want to accept the fun in gambling as being realistic when all he could is a disappointment.
Lucky for those gamblers that find their way towards Bitcointalk because they are the one who are having a safer gambling as for we have
many gambling experts here that can analyze if that said site are safe to gamble or just a Scambag that will only take our money .
So this is same reason why there are many new victims that comes inside our forum to seek help and to take their funds back.
Not really that considered to be lucky but rather it would really be that just that an advantage if you do really just that make yourself mindful about making some research.
Making some research isnt really that hard if you do really meant it unless if you are really that lazy then you would really be going into those places that arent something that good for you.
I do agree in some points that having guides isnt that bad because you could really be able to make yourself that wary at least on what are the things that needed up to be done.
Gambling should really be for fun but in the moment that you are stressing yourself out and commit tons of mistakes because of bad decisions then its not something
enjoyable at all.

Newcomers or not, gambling s hould really be that for fun and not something that you do make yourself that too desperate on making yourself that
too desperate on making money.
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Lucky for those gamblers that find their way towards Bitcointalk because they are the one who are having a safer gambling as for we have
many gambling experts here that can analyze if that said site are safe to gamble or just a Scambag that will only take our money .
So this is same reason why there are many new victims that comes inside our forum to seek help and to take their funds back.
But if those people who got cheated by casinos are out there and don't have a thread on this forum, we can't be of much help. That's because there are no representatives from the casino who can help those who are cheated.
But if the casino has a thread here and an active representative, we could ask them to look into the case.
Most of the scammed people out there find this forum and learn more on this forum so that they can prevent themselves from getting scammed again. They can also find trusted casinos on this forum so they won't experience fraud again.
And if they have any problems, they can contact a representative here to check the case.
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You're absolutely right, why should he behaved in such manners if not that he's such kind of person that should not be trusted for anything, a reputable gambling platform representative will only stay to maintain having a particular thread to have the discussions on what he represent being made and follow them up, and not that they will be going around creating threads that looks like spamming in the community.
Well people are still learning about it mate , they have been in the circle for many years yet there are still others that being victimized or being fooled by their tactics .
We must be willing to check the account first and what they are doing before those post comes out, because sometimes there are even Old account (some also have Positive tags) that turns out being used in this kind of manners, some are being hacked or some being sold accounts.
so let us all be vigilant before dealing in what they are offering us.
If there's something odd or something suspicious then it would really be just that right or wise on making some post on trying out to verify something specially into this forum.
Community members are really that vigilant when it comes to potential scam attempt and fraud on which it is true that even reputed accounts could really be used on such
purpose or such plans on which newbies do really easily get victimized on this what and this is why we should really be that watchful.
Yes this forum is the best possible place to lay you hands on varieing information and opinions on things,  reason why bitcointalk review is the most trusted by some of us the members,  this is because this forum members are vast in knowledge and the forum allows us to discuss ask equations and attract with one another at some point and this make us to have access to first hand informantions.

Alot of time some forks tend to get confused about some things,  but the moment they locate this forum,  and make an attempt to get access to some information,  it becomes easy for them to avoid potential scams.

For those that already made it here to this forum and have also found a well reputed gambling platform for choose, then they have made a right decision on their gambling experience already because it's going to serve them something different from those whose gambling platforms were not located from here, but back to the gamblers themselves, a newbie gamblers do have a reason why he's that interested in gambling and not until he gets them as he has desired, he may not want to accept the fun in gambling as being realistic when all he could is a disappointment.
Lucky for those gamblers that find their way towards Bitcointalk because they are the one who are having a safer gambling as for we have
many gambling experts here that can analyze if that said site are safe to gamble or just a Scambag that will only take our money .
So this is same reason why there are many new victims that comes inside our forum to seek help and to take their funds back.
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You're absolutely right, why should he behaved in such manners if not that he's such kind of person that should not be trusted for anything, a reputable gambling platform representative will only stay to maintain having a particular thread to have the discussions on what he represent being made and follow them up, and not that they will be going around creating threads that looks like spamming in the community.
Well people are still learning about it mate , they have been in the circle for many years yet there are still others that being victimized or being fooled by their tactics .
We must be willing to check the account first and what they are doing before those post comes out, because sometimes there are even Old account (some also have Positive tags) that turns out being used in this kind of manners, some are being hacked or some being sold accounts.
so let us all be vigilant before dealing in what they are offering us.
If there's something odd or something suspicious then it would really be just that right or wise on making some post on trying out to verify something specially into this forum.
Community members are really that vigilant when it comes to potential scam attempt and fraud on which it is true that even reputed accounts could really be used on such
purpose or such plans on which newbies do really easily get victimized on this what and this is why we should really be that watchful. Going back into the topic on
having those new comers to have some guide? It isnt really that much needed because even just simply using up your own common sense should really be that enough.
You wont really be putting yourself on such big problem if you are really just that sensible towards your actions.
Of course commonsense is needed but having guide is more better mate because we human believes in what was already in our mind that we knew everything but in the end we will realized that there is something that we forgot.
so why not accept those guide or lists , it is GUIDE meaning the best set of things that will let us know what is better and what is best .
Just like in computing , others believes in their Math skills but there is no much best when using calculator for exact and complete answers.
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Have no idea why the discussion veered away towards gambling addiction in this site's ANN thread. Anyway, I just stumbled onto this thread and tried checking the site out through the link in op, but it didn't load.

I had to manually find it through google. Also, the language is a mix of English and Thai/Filipino which made me lose complete interest in this site.
You just have to go through His account posts History to tell what kind of site and account this is , obviously another site that created solely to BS gamblers here.

Weeks of this thread being posted but OP never even put a single comment? instead creating multiple Same thread in other boards?

for me this is a site that we never consider to deposit and play.

Be carefull in  dealing here because you might end being scammed.

When that's the case, it's really difficult to transact with a person like that. It's not that he's a scammer, but he's just being careful not to fall prey to people who have bad intentions towards others.

If he's really just promoting what he wants to promote, then we're not sure what he's promoting yet if it's really legitimate, but if I go by the people who commented here, it doesn't look like he's good at trying. So always do your own research.
I can't find any foul play here either though he was supposed to have planned the gimmicks better and played his game more maturely. This is not different from all that we are seeing on sites these days and social media to the point that it's difficult to know who and what product to trust. Still, the benefits of the doubt could be worth it at times, but one must do strict research in order to avoid being lured into regrets. There are some that come this way but preach the right products which people thank later, so it still buttresses to DYOR since good or bad products and services might come the same way.

That's right, everyone who tries this kind of scenario should do research first. This type of Dyor occurs when a person has a habit or habit, and for sure they will not be in trouble for the things they do in their lives.

If this is what Op has done, maybe let's look first and watch out for what he wants to convey to our communities here on this forum platform. Though it's okay with me that anyone who starts gambling should only do it for fun,
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You're absolutely right, why should he behaved in such manners if not that he's such kind of person that should not be trusted for anything, a reputable gambling platform representative will only stay to maintain having a particular thread to have the discussions on what he represent being made and follow them up, and not that they will be going around creating threads that looks like spamming in the community.
Well people are still learning about it mate , they have been in the circle for many years yet there are still others that being victimized or being fooled by their tactics .
We must be willing to check the account first and what they are doing before those post comes out, because sometimes there are even Old account (some also have Positive tags) that turns out being used in this kind of manners, some are being hacked or some being sold accounts.
so let us all be vigilant before dealing in what they are offering us.
If there's something odd or something suspicious then it would really be just that right or wise on making some post on trying out to verify something specially into this forum.
Community members are really that vigilant when it comes to potential scam attempt and fraud on which it is true that even reputed accounts could really be used on such
purpose or such plans on which newbies do really easily get victimized on this what and this is why we should really be that watchful.
Yes this forum is the best possible place to lay you hands on varieing information and opinions on things,  reason why bitcointalk review is the most trusted by some of us the members,  this is because this forum members are vast in knowledge and the forum allows us to discuss ask equations and attract with one another at some point and this make us to have access to first hand informantions.

Alot of time some forks tend to get confused about some things,  but the moment they locate this forum,  and make an attempt to get access to some information,  it becomes easy for them to avoid potential scams.

For those that already made it here to this forum and have also found a well reputed gambling platform for choose, then they have made a right decision on their gambling experience already because it's going to serve them something different from those whose gambling platforms were not located from here, but back to the gamblers themselves, a newbie gamblers do have a reason why he's that interested in gambling and not until he gets them as he has desired, he may not want to accept the fun in gambling as being realistic when all he could is a disappointment.
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You're absolutely right, why should he behaved in such manners if not that he's such kind of person that should not be trusted for anything, a reputable gambling platform representative will only stay to maintain having a particular thread to have the discussions on what he represent being made and follow them up, and not that they will be going around creating threads that looks like spamming in the community.
Well people are still learning about it mate , they have been in the circle for many years yet there are still others that being victimized or being fooled by their tactics .
We must be willing to check the account first and what they are doing before those post comes out, because sometimes there are even Old account (some also have Positive tags) that turns out being used in this kind of manners, some are being hacked or some being sold accounts.
so let us all be vigilant before dealing in what they are offering us.
If there's something odd or something suspicious then it would really be just that right or wise on making some post on trying out to verify something specially into this forum.
Community members are really that vigilant when it comes to potential scam attempt and fraud on which it is true that even reputed accounts could really be used on such
purpose or such plans on which newbies do really easily get victimized on this what and this is why we should really be that watchful.
Yes this forum is the best possible place to lay you hands on varieing information and opinions on things,  reason why bitcointalk review is the most trusted by some of us the members,  this is because this forum members are vast in knowledge and the forum allows us to discuss ask equations and attract with one another at some point and this make us to have access to first hand informantions.

Alot of time some forks tend to get confused about some things,  but the moment they locate this forum,  and make an attempt to get access to some information,  it becomes easy for them to avoid potential scams.
hero member
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You're absolutely right, why should he behaved in such manners if not that he's such kind of person that should not be trusted for anything, a reputable gambling platform representative will only stay to maintain having a particular thread to have the discussions on what he represent being made and follow them up, and not that they will be going around creating threads that looks like spamming in the community.
Well people are still learning about it mate , they have been in the circle for many years yet there are still others that being victimized or being fooled by their tactics .
We must be willing to check the account first and what they are doing before those post comes out, because sometimes there are even Old account (some also have Positive tags) that turns out being used in this kind of manners, some are being hacked or some being sold accounts.
so let us all be vigilant before dealing in what they are offering us.
If there's something odd or something suspicious then it would really be just that right or wise on making some post on trying out to verify something specially into this forum.
Community members are really that vigilant when it comes to potential scam attempt and fraud on which it is true that even reputed accounts could really be used on such
purpose or such plans on which newbies do really easily get victimized on this what and this is why we should really be that watchful. Going back into the topic on
having those new comers to have some guide? It isnt really that much needed because even just simply using up your own common sense should really be that enough.
You wont really be putting yourself on such big problem if you are really just that sensible towards your actions.
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You're absolutely right, why should he behaved in such manners if not that he's such kind of person that should not be trusted for anything, a reputable gambling platform representative will only stay to maintain having a particular thread to have the discussions on what he represent being made and follow them up, and not that they will be going around creating threads that looks like spamming in the community.
Well people are still learning about it mate , they have been in the circle for many years yet there are still others that being victimized or being fooled by their tactics .
We must be willing to check the account first and what they are doing before those post comes out, because sometimes there are even Old account (some also have Positive tags) that turns out being used in this kind of manners, some are being hacked or some being sold accounts.
so let us all be vigilant before dealing in what they are offering us.
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Leo is resting.
Some of OP's post were already in archival while on this thread he's still got no reply even just once.

for me this is a site that we never consider to deposit and play.

Be carefull in  dealing here because you might end being scammed.
Someone won't really be encouraged to deposit and try to play on a casino where there's no interaction from the other gamblers that have questions about them.

Honestly, I was also about to suggest about the purchase of Copper membership but it seems that it's not needed at all because there's no interest of any reply from OP.
I don't think op maybe interested in getting a copper member if he didn't have any plan of staying here for long. Whatever the kind of betting we are always gambling on, it is good when we have enough time to chill and relax so we don't spend too much time in betting. The newbies need to understand how to bet with high security so that they don't end up becoming an addicted gambler. The pro gamblers might have had different experience in the past so the newbies that are coming up have to learn how to stay safe as a gambler. Gaming and betting is supposed to be fun so something we need to do by all means.
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Welcome to the forum. You website looks nice, though it took sometime uploading here. I like the VIP club area.

Definitely you have to be more serious to present yourself more by getting a copper member so that your op will look more attractive.

For better coverage and publicity, running a signature campaign will expose you more. Wish you good luck.
Sometimes if some of the owners of casino want to get more patronage from bitcointalk community the only thing that will make their platform visible is to at least make sure that have launched a signature campaign in the forum and the signature will push people to the gambling websites once they clicked on the signature, so signature is easy publication for people to know your casino or any kind of game you wish for people to participate, I have not seen the reason why you will not get patronizers when you already launched a campaign, I agree with you mate, let op decide on what to do and also know that copper member is necessary for him to buy so that it will be eligible of posting pictures
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Some of OP's post were already in archival while on this thread he's still got no reply even just once.

for me this is a site that we never consider to deposit and play.

Be carefull in  dealing here because you might end being scammed.
Someone won't really be encouraged to deposit and try to play on a casino where there's no interaction from the other gamblers that have questions about them.

Honestly, I was also about to suggest about the purchase of Copper membership but it seems that it's not needed at all because there's no interest of any reply from OP.
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Have no idea why the discussion veered away towards gambling addiction in this site's ANN thread. Anyway, I just stumbled onto this thread and tried checking the site out through the link in op, but it didn't load.

I had to manually find it through google. Also, the language is a mix of English and Thai/Filipino which made me lose complete interest in this site.
You just have to go through His account posts History to tell what kind of site and account this is , obviously another site that created solely to BS gamblers here.

Weeks of this thread being posted but OP never even put a single comment? instead creating multiple Same thread in other boards?

for me this is a site that we never consider to deposit and play.

Be carefull in  dealing here because you might end being scammed.

When that's the case, it's really difficult to transact with a person like that. It's not that he's a scammer, but he's just being careful not to fall prey to people who have bad intentions towards others.

If he's really just promoting what he wants to promote, then we're not sure what he's promoting yet if it's really legitimate, but if I go by the people who commented here, it doesn't look like he's good at trying. So always do your own research.
I can't find any foul play here either though he was supposed to have planned the gimmicks better and played his game more maturely. This is not different from all that we are seeing on sites these days and social media to the point that it's difficult to know who and what product to trust. Still, the benefits of the doubt could be worth it at times, but one must do strict research in order to avoid being lured into regrets. There are some that come this way but preach the right products which people thank later, so it still buttresses to DYOR since good or bad products and services might come the same way.
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Have no idea why the discussion veered away towards gambling addiction in this site's ANN thread. Anyway, I just stumbled onto this thread and tried checking the site out through the link in op, but it didn't load.

I had to manually find it through google. Also, the language is a mix of English and Thai/Filipino which made me lose complete interest in this site.
You just have to go through His account posts History to tell what kind of site and account this is , obviously another site that created solely to BS gamblers here.

Weeks of this thread being posted but OP never even put a single comment? instead creating multiple Same thread in other boards?

for me this is a site that we never consider to deposit and play.

Be carefull in  dealing here because you might end being scammed.

When that's the case, it's really difficult to transact with a person like that. It's not that he's a scammer, but he's just being careful not to fall prey to people who have bad intentions towards others.

If he's really just promoting what he wants to promote, then we're not sure what he's promoting yet if it's really legitimate, but if I go by the people who commented here, it doesn't look like he's good at trying. So always do your own research.

Legitimate or not, I does not fit in my mind why would anyone to to advertise a service in such a lackluster way and in communities like this one where people is already used to gamble and have accounts in very reputable casinos with a high grade of liquidity. Instead of trying to start a full promotional ANN, OP would have had a better approach if he asked for honest feedback for his casino project from us and later implemented it, so could appeal to the average gambler.
It kind of reminds me a very wise and popular saying within the world of video games: A delayed video game can take its time can be good, but a bad game released will always be remembered as a bad game.

It goes about the same with casinos and all kind of services, a good first impression is important, it is about getting people to deposit money, after all...  Wink
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