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Topic: Gun Bill fails in Senate (Read 1058 times)

legendary
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April 18, 2013, 02:23:48 PM
#26
They should modify the bill and make a Fertilizer Bill to ban assault fertilizer and high capacity manure  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Merit: 1145
The revolution will be monetized!
April 18, 2013, 12:54:19 PM
#25
... My contention is that assault weapons and bombs are only good for military applications. Civilians have no need for them because they offer no substantial benefits and often become a heavy burden on the people.
I could fill the rest of this thread with countless examples that fit your criteria. The problem is who decides what is useful to me? What if that thinking were applied to bitcoins?
hero member
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Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 18, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
#24
Guns don't keep people safe. Bombs keep people safe. Bombs win wars, not guns. We don't have nukular guns, we have nuclear bombs. Bombs are freedom. Bombs are liberty. Bombs promote peace and love. Pussies use guns.  Cheesy
Guns keep people safe. Nukes keep nations safe.
Guns didn't help the people in Boston now did they?
You're implying a bomb would have?
Neither would have. My contention is that assault weapons and bombs are only good for military applications. Civilians have no need for them because they offer no substantial benefits and often become a heavy burden on the people.
I'm afraid you're wrong here, on both counts. Both bombs and "assault weapons" have civilian uses.
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
April 18, 2013, 12:47:46 PM
#23
Guns don't keep people safe. Bombs keep people safe. Bombs win wars, not guns. We don't have nukular guns, we have nuclear bombs. Bombs are freedom. Bombs are liberty. Bombs promote peace and love. Pussies use guns.  Cheesy
Guns keep people safe. Nukes keep nations safe.
Guns didn't help the people in Boston now did they?
You're implying a bomb would have?
Neither would have. My contention is that assault weapons and bombs are only good for military applications. Civilians have no need for them because they offer no substantial benefits and often become a heavy burden on the people.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 18, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
#22
Guns don't keep people safe. Bombs keep people safe. Bombs win wars, not guns. We don't have nukular guns, we have nuclear bombs. Bombs are freedom. Bombs are liberty. Bombs promote peace and love. Pussies use guns.  Cheesy
Guns keep people safe. Nukes keep nations safe.
Guns didn't help the people in Boston now did they?
You're implying a bomb would have?
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
April 18, 2013, 12:42:17 PM
#21
Guns don't keep people safe. Bombs keep people safe. Bombs win wars, not guns. We don't have nukular guns, we have nuclear bombs. Bombs are freedom. Bombs are liberty. Bombs promote peace and love. Pussies use guns.  Cheesy
Guns keep people safe. Nukes keep nations safe.
Guns didn't help the people in Boston now did they?
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1145
The revolution will be monetized!
April 18, 2013, 12:20:26 PM
#20
People are complicated.  Smiley
I would say any conservative would call me liberal. I support legislation which expands rights. If you want to be in a gay marriage or represent the KKK in a march or smoke weed or shoot a machine gun on your farm, I support you.   
I'm not afraid of peoples rights, I think we should enjoy them in liberal amounts.

Sounds like you're two clicks away from libertarian Cool
What I was going to say. Cheesy
It's true.  I think most Americans are libertarian at heart.
I try to look at an issue without bringing my own bias. Liberal vs. Conservative is of no interest to me. Stupid ideas vs. sensible ideas are. It's why I have friends of all kinds and political persuasions.  
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 18, 2013, 12:19:34 PM
#19
Guns don't keep people safe. Bombs keep people safe. Bombs win wars, not guns. We don't have nukular guns, we have nuclear bombs. Bombs are freedom. Bombs are liberty. Bombs promote peace and love. Pussies use guns.  Cheesy
Guns keep people safe. Nukes keep nations safe.
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
April 18, 2013, 12:18:25 PM
#18
Guns don't keep people safe. Bombs keep people safe. Bombs win wars, not guns. We don't have nukular guns, we have nuclear bombs. Bombs are freedom. Bombs are liberty. Bombs promote peace and love. Pussies use guns.  Cheesy
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 18, 2013, 12:12:12 PM
#17
People are complicated.  Smiley
I would say any conservative would call me liberal. I support legislation which expands rights. If you want to be in a gay marriage or represent the KKK in a march or smoke weed or shoot a machine gun on your farm, I support you.   
I'm not afraid of peoples rights, I think we should enjoy them in liberal amounts.

Sounds like you're two clicks away from libertarian Cool
What I was going to say. Cheesy
legendary
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April 18, 2013, 12:10:10 PM
#16
People are complicated.  Smiley
I would say any conservative would call me liberal. I support legislation which expands rights. If you want to be in a gay marriage or represent the KKK in a march or smoke weed or shoot a machine gun on your farm, I support you.   
I'm not afraid of peoples rights, I think we should enjoy them in liberal amounts.

Sounds like you're two clicks away from libertarian Cool
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1145
The revolution will be monetized!
April 18, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
#15
The NRA represents me, a liberal democrat.

Wait, what?
People are complicated.  Smiley
I would say any conservative would call me liberal. I support legislation which expands rights. If you want to be in a gay marriage or represent the KKK in a march or smoke weed or shoot a machine gun on your farm, I support you.   
I'm not afraid of peoples rights, I think we should enjoy them in liberal amounts.
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 18, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
#14
The NRA represents me, a liberal democrat.

Wait, what?
legendary
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April 18, 2013, 11:53:14 AM
#13
It should come as no surprise that this failed to go anywhere. America does not want this. The media is comprised largely of urban reporters who know nothing about guns or people who live outside of cities. They like to portray this as crushed by the powerful NRA gun lobby.
Well, guess what. The NRA is a grassroots group that represents millions of people. It is not like big pharma or the unholy defense lobby. They represent a few big manufactures. The NRA represents me, a liberal democrat.
I find it offensive to see politicians and the media charge people with not caring just because their own ignorance informed agenda is threatened. Honestly, gun policy is to the left what abortion is to the right. These are settled issues in the U.S. but neither side will accept it. So they waste our tax dollars endlessly parsing words and dreaming up cheats around due process. Meanwhile, real issues are ignored.
hero member
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April 18, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
#12
Now go unload an extended magazine of bullets into the air...

But... then I won't have it anymore....

No point having it if you don't use it.

True. Since they didn't ban high-capacity magazines, I can always get more.
legendary
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Merit: 1145
The revolution will be monetized!
April 18, 2013, 10:37:42 AM
#11
It seems like the prices are comming down a bit at gunbroker. Here are some things for sale in bitcoin.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=bitcoin&SearchType=1
legendary
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April 18, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
#10
Now go unload an extended magazine of bullets into the air...

But... then I won't have it anymore....

No point having it if you don't use it.

Hopefully now we'll see the shelves start filling up again though. I've noticed there's a lot of people selling their 22s. Hopefully the used market will loosen up again too. There's a revolver I've been after but nobody's selling.
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 17, 2013, 10:02:29 PM
#9
They are just dieing to find a way to tax air imo
hero member
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April 17, 2013, 09:37:31 PM
#8
Next, attempt to have a ban on pressure cookers within the next attempt ban gun bill.
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
April 17, 2013, 09:27:50 PM
#7
Hopefully this sends a message they can't take our rights away!

No, just that they'll have to try harder next time. Undecided
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