Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware

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Quote from: Ron~Popeil on June 08, 2014, 02:46:13 PM

I am too lazy to google it but I would imagine a lot of those incarcerations are for non violent crimes as well.

Out of all the prisoners in federal jails, just 8% of them are there for committing violent crimes. A simple majority are in for drug offenses, while most of the remainder are sentenced for white-collar crimes.

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LOL @ "everybody carrying guns" in Texas. Good luck getting past the Jim Crow laws...

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 01:25:02 PM

Quote from: beetcoin on June 08, 2014, 12:17:35 PM

it makes sense that violence is down since they are arresting a lot of the minorities who are ill-equipped to live in society.

Although minorities make up the majority of the incarcerated population, more than 1/3rd of the prisoners are non-Hispanic White.

And the main reason why the minorities are being over-represented, is the war on drugs.

I am too lazy to google it but I would imagine a lot of those incarcerations are for non violent crimes as well.

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Quote from: beetcoin on June 08, 2014, 12:17:35 PM

it makes sense that violence is down since they are arresting a lot of the minorities who are ill-equipped to live in society.

Although minorities make up the majority of the incarcerated population, more than 1/3rd of the prisoners are non-Hispanic White.

And the main reason why the minorities are being over-represented, is the war on drugs.

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it makes sense that violence is down since they are arresting a lot of the minorities who are ill-equipped to live in society.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 11:24:12 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 09:10:52 AM

If the authorities are not capable of controlling air pollution or bring down the murder rate.... change the authorities.

If the majority of the population is brainwashed by media propaganda, then removing the authorities through democratic means is outright impossible. Then the only option left is through forcible means, which a lot of people would disagree with.

That in a nutshell is the problem in the US. The media has its part for sure but it is really easy to get complacent when life is fairly comfortable. It actually takes effort to engage and when you do engage you are made into a pariah.

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Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 09:10:52 AM

If the authorities are not capable of controlling air pollution or bring down the murder rate.... change the authorities.

If the majority of the population is brainwashed by media propaganda, then removing the authorities through democratic means is outright impossible. Then the only option left is through forcible means, which a lot of people would disagree with.

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Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 09:10:52 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 09:08:32 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 09:00:14 AM

So instead of getting rid of the pollution we should all wear gas masks.
Indeed , the best solution around.

No. It is not the best solution. It is the second best solution. If the authorities are not capable of controlling the air pollution, then I will start wearing gas masks. I am concerned about my (+ my families') health and safety in the first place.

If the authorities are not capable of controlling air pollution or bring down the murder rate.... change the authorities.

Guns can be useful for that too, after the more traditional methods prove to be fruitless...

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 09:08:32 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 09:00:14 AM

So instead of getting rid of the pollution we should all wear gas masks.
Indeed , the best solution around.

No. It is not the best solution. It is the second best solution. If the authorities are not capable of controlling the air pollution, then I will start wearing gas masks. I am concerned about my (+ my families') health and safety in the first place.

If the authorities are not capable of controlling air pollution or bring down the murder rate.... change the authorities.

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Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 09:00:14 AM

So instead of getting rid of the pollution we should all wear gas masks.
Indeed , the best solution around.

No. It is not the best solution. It is the second best solution. If the authorities are not capable of controlling the air pollution, then I will start wearing gas masks. I am concerned about my (+ my families') health and safety in the first place.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 08:58:06 AM

Quote from: Charlie Prime on June 08, 2014, 07:56:37 AM

Hahhaha. "A "normal" country.

Your myopia is impressive.

If you lived where I live in Texas, I'm fairly certain you would avail yourself of common self-defense technologies.

This may surprise you, but the world is a diverse place. What is appropriate for one location, may be inappropriate for another.

Have to agree with that. If you don't own a gun, then you might become a sitting duck in certain parts of the world. Certain cities in Texas (includes Dallas, Austin.etc) are examples.

So instead of getting rid of the pollution we should all wear gas masks.
Indeed , the best solution around.

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Quote from: Charlie Prime on June 08, 2014, 07:56:37 AM

Hahhaha. "A "normal" country.

Your myopia is impressive.

If you lived where I live in Texas, I'm fairly certain you would avail yourself of common self-defense technologies.

This may surprise you, but the world is a diverse place. What is appropriate for one location, may be inappropriate for another.

Have to agree with that. If you don't own a gun, then you might become a sitting duck in certain parts of the world. Certain cities in Texas (includes Dallas, Austin.etc) are examples.

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Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 08:14:34 AM

Maybe I'm getting the wrong idea but did you just said that for you texans is normal to carry a gun and shot a few hundred people a year?

Right. That's exactly what I just said. Roll Eyes

Bye bye buffoon.

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Quote from: Charlie Prime on June 08, 2014, 07:56:37 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 07:13:39 AM

Just to show how much lower gun homicide rate has to go down to come even close to a normal country. For all the gun fanatics that say everybody carrying guns actually prevent crimes.

Hahhaha. "A "normal" country.

Your myopia is impressive.

If you lived where I live in Texas, I'm fairly certain you would avail yourself of common self-defense technologies.

This may surprise you, but the world is a diverse place. What is appropriate for one location, may be inappropriate for another.

Maybe I'm getting the wrong idea but did you just said that for you texans is normal to carry a gun and shot a few hundred people a year?

I'm pretty sure that there is another solution to live a peaceful life , like the japanese did.

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Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 07:13:39 AM

Just to show how much lower gun homicide rate has to go down to come even close to a normal country. For all the gun fanatics that say everybody carrying guns actually prevent crimes.

Hahhaha. "A "normal" country.

Your myopia is impressive.

If you lived where I live in Texas, I'm fairly certain you would avail yourself of common self-defense technologies.

This may surprise you, but the world is a diverse place. What is appropriate for one location, may be inappropriate for another.

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Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 07:31:45 AM

Quote from: bitsmichel on June 08, 2014, 07:16:30 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 07:13:39 AM

Quote from: Charlie Prime on June 08, 2014, 07:11:49 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 07, 2014, 11:23:26 AM

Homicides rates: United States 4.8[9] Germany 0.8

What do Germans have to do with concealed carry in Texas?

Just to show how much lower gun homicide rate has to go down to come even close to a normal country.
For all the gun fanatics that say everybody carrying guns actually prevent crimes.

Population estimates:
Germany : 80,585,700
Texas : 26,448,193
USA : 316,128,839

It would be more fair to compare the homicide rates of Germany to Texas than all of the states.

Do you have a clue what those numbers are and what homicide rate means?
4.8 and 0.8 are number or murders per 100 000 pop.
So , size is irrelevant.

But , let's do it against Texas based on all the crimes :
Germany 690 total crimes , Texas 1,248.
Twice the number at 1/3 population?

Ah figures.yes, the number of crimes in Texas is much higher. Or, the German police force is not detecting enough crimes, but I think it is the first.

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Quote from: bitsmichel on June 08, 2014, 07:16:30 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 07:13:39 AM

Quote from: Charlie Prime on June 08, 2014, 07:11:49 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 07, 2014, 11:23:26 AM

Homicides rates: United States 4.8[9] Germany 0.8

What do Germans have to do with concealed carry in Texas?

Just to show how much lower gun homicide rate has to go down to come even close to a normal country.
For all the gun fanatics that say everybody carrying guns actually prevent crimes.

Population estimates:
Germany : 80,585,700
Texas : 26,448,193
USA : 316,128,839

It would be more fair to compare the homicide rates of Germany to Texas than all of the states.

Do you have a clue what those numbers are and what homicide rate means?
4.8 and 0.8 are number or murders per 100 000 pop.
So , size is irrelevant.

But , let's do it against Texas based on all the crimes :
Germany 690 total crimes , Texas 1,248.
Twice the number at 1/3 population?

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Quote from: niothor on June 08, 2014, 07:13:39 AM

Quote from: Charlie Prime on June 08, 2014, 07:11:49 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 07, 2014, 11:23:26 AM

Homicides rates: United States 4.8[9] Germany 0.8

What do Germans have to do with concealed carry in Texas?

Just to show how much lower gun homicide rate has to go down to come even close to a normal country.
For all the gun fanatics that say everybody carrying guns actually prevent crimes.

Population estimates:
Germany : 80,585,700
Texas : 26,448,193
USA : 316,128,839

It would be more fair to compare the homicide rates of Germany to Texas than all of the states.

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Quote from: Charlie Prime on June 08, 2014, 07:11:49 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 07, 2014, 11:23:26 AM

Homicides rates: United States 4.8[9] Germany 0.8

What do Germans have to do with concealed carry in Texas?

Just to show how much lower gun homicide rate has to go down to come even close to a normal country.
For all the gun fanatics that say everybody carrying guns actually prevent crimes.

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Quote from: niothor on June 07, 2014, 11:23:26 AM

Homicides rates: United States 4.8[9] Germany 0.8

What do Germans have to do with concealed carry in Texas?

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