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Topic: Had Satoshi Nagamoto made himself public, would BTC be where it is today? Why? - page 2. (Read 211 times)

newbie
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Hi there. I know it is decentralized of course, but what I meant is that had Satoshi be punished and asked to assist in destroying bitcoin (Im sure no one thought about this before), there are many ways he can do so. Looking at the mess of forking, 51 attack just part of the mess im talking about that brings the death of Bitcoin

again bitcoin is decentralized and Satoshi is just a developer and he doesn't have any more power than any other programmer out there specially at this point that the network has grown this big and is still growing.
the only thing that revelation of Satoshi can affect is the price and that is only because it is assumed that Satoshi may control a large amount of bitcoin. but you are not talking about price you are talking about "destroying bitcoin" which is not possible.

as you can see the forking mess was a temporary drama and the 51% attacks have been a part of the forks (the altcoins) just like it has always been. for years different altcoins have been under 51% attack that wipes out their blocks and creates nuisance for exchanges that did not start with these forked coins.

Yup I totally agree with you on this.
However, my main point here is "at early inception of Bitcoin, the revelation of Satoshi's identity could lead to a different story that we see it now". For example, the whole world would be brainwash to believe that Bitcoin was developed to destory the world financial system (rather than improving it); and that Bitcoin is a scam and controlled by the drug cartel etc, investing in it is as good as throwing money down the drain and anyone invested and caught would be punished. All this would happen if Satoshi's identity was revealed and forced to be labelled on the bad names I simply suggest above, or accusing him of anything that could think of.

well i feel like there are two different subjects here. one is destroying bitcoin, as in killing it and it no longer exist afterwards. and another is to crash the market and price dropping down.
the second one is obviously possible and can even be easy with the scenario that you are describing. many will sell, panic, run away,... so there would be a crash. but the first one is impossible because at the end of the day nothing about bitcoin itself is going to change. only the perception can change. the thing about peer to peer systems is that they will exist as long as there is one peer on the network.

for instance you can start telling everyone Torrent (a peer to peer system) is illegal and is used for pirating only and by criminals to share illegal content. well that will lead many to uninstall their Torrent programs and stop using it but it won't kill Torrenting. so next time you download Ubuntu for example you could see a drop in number of seed (peers) but there will still be seeds.

Haha Im relieved now that Im being understood.
Yes I do not mean Killing it, its impossible. I mean exactly the second situation, and what a great example you gave about Torrent. Thats spot on and described the situation perfectly =)
legendary
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Hi there. I know it is decentralized of course, but what I meant is that had Satoshi be punished and asked to assist in destroying bitcoin (Im sure no one thought about this before), there are many ways he can do so. Looking at the mess of forking, 51 attack just part of the mess im talking about that brings the death of Bitcoin

again bitcoin is decentralized and Satoshi is just a developer and he doesn't have any more power than any other programmer out there specially at this point that the network has grown this big and is still growing.
the only thing that revelation of Satoshi can affect is the price and that is only because it is assumed that Satoshi may control a large amount of bitcoin. but you are not talking about price you are talking about "destroying bitcoin" which is not possible.

as you can see the forking mess was a temporary drama and the 51% attacks have been a part of the forks (the altcoins) just like it has always been. for years different altcoins have been under 51% attack that wipes out their blocks and creates nuisance for exchanges that did not start with these forked coins.

Yup I totally agree with you on this.
However, my main point here is "at early inception of Bitcoin, the revelation of Satoshi's identity could lead to a different story that we see it now". For example, the whole world would be brainwash to believe that Bitcoin was developed to destory the world financial system (rather than improving it); and that Bitcoin is a scam and controlled by the drug cartel etc, investing in it is as good as throwing money down the drain and anyone invested and caught would be punished. All this would happen if Satoshi's identity was revealed and forced to be labelled on the bad names I simply suggest above, or accusing him of anything that could think of.

well i feel like there are two different subjects here. one is destroying bitcoin, as in killing it and it no longer exist afterwards. and another is to crash the market and price dropping down.
the second one is obviously possible and can even be easy with the scenario that you are describing. many will sell, panic, run away,... so there would be a crash. but the first one is impossible because at the end of the day nothing about bitcoin itself is going to change. only the perception can change. the thing about peer to peer systems is that they will exist as long as there is one peer on the network.

for instance you can start telling everyone Torrent (a peer to peer system) is illegal and is used for pirating only and by criminals to share illegal content. well that will lead many to uninstall their Torrent programs and stop using it but it won't kill Torrenting. so next time you download Ubuntu for example you could see a drop in number of seed (peers) but there will still be seeds.
full member
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I do not think there will be any changes. The price will be the same. People will use it as we use it right now. Just like other coins that we know who are the developers.

Again Satoshi Nakamoto is the developer but Bitcoin is decentralized and we all own Bitcoin.

newbie
Activity: 36
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Hi there. I know it is decentralized of course, but what I meant is that had Satoshi be punished and asked to assist in destroying bitcoin (Im sure no one thought about this before), there are many ways he can do so. Looking at the mess of forking, 51 attack just part of the mess im talking about that brings the death of Bitcoin

again bitcoin is decentralized and Satoshi is just a developer and he doesn't have any more power than any other programmer out there specially at this point that the network has grown this big and is still growing.
the only thing that revelation of Satoshi can affect is the price and that is only because it is assumed that Satoshi may control a large amount of bitcoin. but you are not talking about price you are talking about "destroying bitcoin" which is not possible.

as you can see the forking mess was a temporary drama and the 51% attacks have been a part of the forks (the altcoins) just like it has always been. for years different altcoins have been under 51% attack that wipes out their blocks and creates nuisance for exchanges that did not start with these forked coins.

 A newbie perception, please do your home, learn more about your posting, it seems like that your just trying make question on this forum, as stated above Bitcoin is Decentralized, no one is in  control.  The issue on the price market now, is different story affected by a lot indicators, the volume of investment, HODL, FUD, Scammer,Banned, and the never ending issue on Regulation by the government financial institution globally, not to mention the fake news about Bitcoin.


It seems that you are the one who is trying to make post to earn activity point without even elaborating what is your point here?

We arent talking about prices here my friend
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
Hi there. I know it is decentralized of course, but what I meant is that had Satoshi be punished and asked to assist in destroying bitcoin (Im sure no one thought about this before), there are many ways he can do so. Looking at the mess of forking, 51 attack just part of the mess im talking about that brings the death of Bitcoin

again bitcoin is decentralized and Satoshi is just a developer and he doesn't have any more power than any other programmer out there specially at this point that the network has grown this big and is still growing.
the only thing that revelation of Satoshi can affect is the price and that is only because it is assumed that Satoshi may control a large amount of bitcoin. but you are not talking about price you are talking about "destroying bitcoin" which is not possible.

as you can see the forking mess was a temporary drama and the 51% attacks have been a part of the forks (the altcoins) just like it has always been. for years different altcoins have been under 51% attack that wipes out their blocks and creates nuisance for exchanges that did not start with these forked coins.

Yup I totally agree with you on this.
However, my main point here is "at early inception of Bitcoin, the revelation of Satoshi's identity could lead to a different story that we see it now". For example, the whole world would be brainwash to believe that Bitcoin was developed to destory the world financial system (rather than improving it); and that Bitcoin is a scam and controlled by the drug cartel etc, investing in it is as good as throwing money down the drain and anyone invested and caught would be punished. All this would happen if Satoshi's identity was revealed and forced to be labelled on the bad names I simply suggest above, or accusing him of anything that could think of.
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 11
Hi there. I know it is decentralized of course, but what I meant is that had Satoshi be punished and asked to assist in destroying bitcoin (Im sure no one thought about this before), there are many ways he can do so. Looking at the mess of forking, 51 attack just part of the mess im talking about that brings the death of Bitcoin

again bitcoin is decentralized and Satoshi is just a developer and he doesn't have any more power than any other programmer out there specially at this point that the network has grown this big and is still growing.
the only thing that revelation of Satoshi can affect is the price and that is only because it is assumed that Satoshi may control a large amount of bitcoin. but you are not talking about price you are talking about "destroying bitcoin" which is not possible.

as you can see the forking mess was a temporary drama and the 51% attacks have been a part of the forks (the altcoins) just like it has always been. for years different altcoins have been under 51% attack that wipes out their blocks and creates nuisance for exchanges that did not start with these forked coins.

 A newbie perception, please do your home, learn more about your posting, it seems like that your just trying make question on this forum, as stated above Bitcoin is Decentralized, no one is in  control.  The issue on the price market now, is different story affected by a lot indicators, the volume of investment, HODL, FUD, Scammer,Banned, and the never ending issue on Regulation by the government financial institution globally, not to mention the fake news about Bitcoin.
newbie
Activity: 46
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I completely agree with you! if Bitcoin has this great popularity is because Satoshi Nakamoto is unknown!
bitcoin belongs to everyone and is for everyone! thanks Sathoshi to have started all this!  Smiley Smiley Smiley
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
I can't disagree with the idea that if Satoshi was known Bitcoin would be alive because I too believe a big power would have came and shut it down. Because of this I try my best to only support and use anonymous exchanges but moving forward that may be impossible (centralized exchanges though), but we may have an alternative yet (DEX's).

Exactly my point here. Some Government, high power fellas would have done anything within their power to stop Bitcoin. Whether it is decentralized or not doesnt matter, they have ways to do it if you get what I mean. Think out of the box
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 10611
Hi there. I know it is decentralized of course, but what I meant is that had Satoshi be punished and asked to assist in destroying bitcoin (Im sure no one thought about this before), there are many ways he can do so. Looking at the mess of forking, 51 attack just part of the mess im talking about that brings the death of Bitcoin

again bitcoin is decentralized and Satoshi is just a developer and he doesn't have any more power than any other programmer out there specially at this point that the network has grown this big and is still growing.
the only thing that revelation of Satoshi can affect is the price and that is only because it is assumed that Satoshi may control a large amount of bitcoin. but you are not talking about price you are talking about "destroying bitcoin" which is not possible.

as you can see the forking mess was a temporary drama and the 51% attacks have been a part of the forks (the altcoins) just like it has always been. for years different altcoins have been under 51% attack that wipes out their blocks and creates nuisance for exchanges that did not start with these forked coins.
full member
Activity: 238
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I can't disagree with the idea that if Satoshi was known Bitcoin would be alive because I too believe a big power would have came and shut it down. Because of this I try my best to only support and use anonymous exchanges but moving forward that may be impossible (centralized exchanges though), but we may have an alternative yet (DEX's).
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 10611
what you  are confused about is the fact that bitcoin is not some centralized altcoin which has one owner with the switch to turn it on and off. bitcoin is a decentralized system that even if you find Satoshi Nakamoto and reveal his identity bitcoin will still remain the same thing in the end.
so the following statement of yours does not make sense:
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Had he exposed himself at the early inception days of Bitcoin, the government/authority from all over the world, including the Rothchilds Familys, Dragon Fund and the sort would hunt him down and make Bitcoin a stillbirth.
this can only work on some centralized altcoin.

additionally you keep talking about exchanges and services like that. they have nothing to do with bitcoin. they are just third party services that provide a link between the fiat world (hence the KYC and identity requirements) and bitcoin world.

as for exchanges and service providers to be anonymous themselves that is not going to work because you are putting your money in their hands (for example when you trade you deposit on their platform and lose control) so you need to know who they are and there needs to be regulations controlling them.
newbie
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Hi guys, I had this thinking out of a sudden when I see all exchanges and services surround cryptocurrencies asking for KYC documents!

I started to relate this to Satoshi Nagamoto and the inception of Bitcoin. The reason why Bitcoin is unstoppable, apart from its Blockchain Fundamental, another biggest reason would be that Satoshi Nagamoto is anonymous. Had he exposed himself at the early inception days of Bitcoin, the government/authority from all over the world, including the Rothchilds Familys, Dragon Fund and the sort would hunt him down and make Bitcoin a stillbirth.

So had any services and exchanges provider remain anonymous rather than exposing their company and their team just to please the public (avoid being called a scam), we would have a better Crypto Space now!

Whats your thought on this? Do you support the future Exchanges and Serivce Providers to be anonymous? And why?
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