Topic: Halifax Bank UK - Account Closed (Read 7331 times)
Are you using that bank account to send money to bitcoin exchange or selling bitcoin and taking deposit using the account?
That is pretty messed up I have to admit. It does look very poorly written though and with them no co-operating with you it does make you wonder. I would definitely get rid of this bank if I were you and move to someone else but ensure that any queries you have before opening a new account with another bank are asked before you take the plunge.
Unfortunately, banks are private company and they don't have any obligation to serve anyone or justify why they don't want to.
Exactly. Unfortunately we need them more than they need us, hence they have the power. Pretty ordinary way to treat customers though, especially customers who are doing nothing illegal or immoral and just happen to be interested in bitcoin. I had a similar experience with an Australian bank which prevented my transaction (transfer to an exchange) and then refused to even tell me why.
This highlights why we need this whole bitcoin experiment to live up to its promise - it is the only way we can kill these pr!cks running the show. Best part is I think we will succeed, unless the banks convince the regulators to clamp down...
Banks are generally suspicious of everything new. If you had any bitcoin related transactions there, that may have spooked them.
Halifax closed my account last year and failed to give any reasoning for the decision. I made a complaint to the Financial Ombudsman which was a waste of time. Someonew caled Peter from the service called me to tell me that there is nothing that they can do for force the bank to overturn their decision of closing that account nor can they ask for reasons to do so. Basically they are helpless in cases like this where innocent customers like us can do nothing. Ive spent money and time to make a complaint to hear them say that they can do nothing as the Ombudsman. Disappointing! Someone needs to do something as so many customer who have done no wrong are also getting penalised due to a few people laudering money.
Ive just had a call from the ombudsman saying that they are helpless and the banks are within their rights to do what ever they want with their customers (to do business with a particular customer or not)
Ive just had a call from the ombudsman saying that they are helpless and the banks are within their rights to do what ever they want with their customers (to do business with a particular customer or not)
Even if I sold BTC to someone that's caught laundering, why should that mean the closure of my own bank account?
Maybe the authorities notify the banks that have had any transactions associated with the laundry account, and it's cheaper to loose you as a customer, than take any chances.
The bitcoin transactions you did - could it be inked to a known bitcoin trader/exchange? localbitcoins?
Using localbitcoins worries me a bit, in that you could end up dealing with someone caught/suspected of money laundering further down the road, and find yourself implicated.
Using localbitcoins worries me a bit, in that you could end up dealing with someone caught/suspected of money laundering further down the road, and find yourself implicated.
Quite possibly, I sold with Localbitcoins, but I didn't have many transactions go through this account. I have had a far higher number go through one of my HSBC accounts and never heard a thing from them.
Even if I sold BTC to someone that's caught laundering, why should that mean the closure of my own bank account?
The bitcoin transactions you did - could it be inked to a known bitcoin trader/exchange? localbitcoins?
Using localbitcoins worries me a bit, in that you could end up dealing with someone caught/suspected of money laundering further down the road, and find yourself implicated.
Using localbitcoins worries me a bit, in that you could end up dealing with someone caught/suspected of money laundering further down the road, and find yourself implicated.
First time i hear about such bank any way, where in the name of hell did you find it.
Just move to some normal banks.
Just move to some normal banks.
They're one of the biggest banks in the UK.
They're part of the Lloyds HBOS group, which actually, I think is the biggest retail bank in the UK.
I spoke to a branch manager today and she said that she was told by the closure team that it was being closed due to an internal review and that's all that they would say.
So it seems that I will not be able to get an explanation why. I see what happens with my other accounts and if I have problems then I will pay the £10 to CIFAS and check out what's recorded against my name.
First time i hear about such bank any way, where in the name of hell did you find it.
Just move to some normal banks.
Just move to some normal banks.
Ask them if they registered info with CIFAS (a not-for-profit that allows banks and other companies to share information about frauds).
You can pay a £10 fee to see a copy of the information they hold (a “subject access request”). If there is any information registered against your name and you disagree with it, you can dispute it.
You can pay a £10 fee to see a copy of the information they hold (a “subject access request”). If there is any information registered against your name and you disagree with it, you can dispute it.
Thank you for that, I will give that a shot.
looks exactly like the same letters intersango used to get. same format and everything we'd receive these out of the blue and be told to move banks within 1 week despite it taking 20 days to open bank accounts. if you don't want this to happen you need to be part of the bankers private club.
Did they register you or the company with the fraud agencies or just shut down the account and tell you to move on?
looks exactly like the same letters intersango used to get. same format and everything we'd receive these out of the blue and be told to move banks within 1 week despite it taking 20 days to open bank accounts. if you don't want this to happen you need to be part of the bankers private club.
Unfortunately, banks are private company and they don't have any obligation to serve anyone or justify why they don't want to.
Ask them if they registered info with CIFAS (a not-for-profit that allows banks and other companies to share information about frauds).
You can pay a £10 fee to see a copy of the information they hold (a “subject access request”). If there is any information registered against your name and you disagree with it, you can dispute it.
You can pay a £10 fee to see a copy of the information they hold (a “subject access request”). If there is any information registered against your name and you disagree with it, you can dispute it.
Could be multiple reasons. Likely taxes or money laundering.
I'm not saying you don't pay your taxes (though I'd be willing to guess that hardly any BTC miners do), nor am I saying you committed money laundering. Banks are required to take action against any identified instances of someone avoiding taxes / laundering money. It's likely that the bank is concerned about getting into trouble with their regulator, and rather than keep the income from BTC trading customers, they prefer to close your account and do away with the risk of a giant fine.
I'm not saying you don't pay your taxes (though I'd be willing to guess that hardly any BTC miners do), nor am I saying you committed money laundering. Banks are required to take action against any identified instances of someone avoiding taxes / laundering money. It's likely that the bank is concerned about getting into trouble with their regulator, and rather than keep the income from BTC trading customers, they prefer to close your account and do away with the risk of a giant fine.
some savings accounts can do direct debits
You might also want to complain to the Financial Ombudsman. Not sure it will do you any good but if you tell Halifax that's what you are doing, they might escalate it more quickly.
Britannia is part of the Co-op, FYI, so that's where you will find the current accounts.
Britannia is part of the Co-op, FYI, so that's where you will find the current accounts.
Try Britannia. You have a mortgage with them so it might make the application process easier.
Yeah I would, however they don't do a current account, only savings accounts as far as I can see.
Try Britannia. You have a mortgage with them so it might make the application process easier.
Credit unions are an option, however they aren't brilliant for direct debits / debit cards and I need my account for that.
I did call the bank, and yes I agree the letter is pretty poor. It does look like it was written by a child.
Yes there are other banks here - but read my post, I tried to get an account with another bank but they turned it down.
Read this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18540832
I did call the bank, and yes I agree the letter is pretty poor. It does look like it was written by a child.
Yes there are other banks here - but read my post, I tried to get an account with another bank but they turned it down.
Read this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18540832
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Once an account is closed, fraud prevention agencies put a flag against the customer's name so they cannot normally then open an account with another provider.
Mr Phillips said: "You cannot find out what you're accused of, you cannot plead your case and you find yourself unable to open a bank account and nothing can be done about it. What's happening goes absolutely against the rules of natural justice."
Mr Phillips said: "You cannot find out what you're accused of, you cannot plead your case and you find yourself unable to open a bank account and nothing can be done about it. What's happening goes absolutely against the rules of natural justice."
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