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August 04, 2014, 10:54:11 PM
#50
Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
When asked specifically what items he disagreed with on the Tea Party platform and why he feared them the above is his response. Totally incapable of any intelligent debate or to even stand up and defend his claims.  But no one expected you to actually debate your claims or defend your stance because we all know that would take a few more brain cells that you posses.
We agree with much of what the Tea Party says.  We also agreed with the promises Reagan, Bush and Bush made.  It just that they all turned out to be lies.  We are still waiting for the Republicans’ no nation building, cuts in government spending, cuts in taxes and paying off the national debt.  You know the things that happen under the Democrats.

So 7 Trillion dollars in new debt is cutting spending and paying down the debt? 
legendary
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August 04, 2014, 10:15:11 PM
#49


Captured Hamas Combat Manual Explains Benefits of Human Shields



A Hamas manual on "Urban Warfare" found by the Israeli Defense Forces makes it unmistakably clear that Hamas desires civilian casualties amongst its own people and encourages its fighters to engage in battles in civilian populated areas in order to draw an Israeli response.

"Where is the U.N. Human Rights Council? Where is Amnesty International? Where is Human Rights Watch? Where is the international media and Middle East pundits. Where are all the lawfare experts? Here is 'Exhibit A' to indict Hamas for war crimes and crimes against humanity by placing the people of Gaza as human shields," said Rabbis Marvin Hier and Abraham Cooper, dean and founder and associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

IDF forces in the Gaza Strip found a Hamas manual on “Urban Warfare,” which belonged to the Shuja’iya Brigade of Hamas’ military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades. The manual explains how the civilian population can be used against IDF forces and reveals that Hamas knows the IDF is committed to minimizing harm to civilians.

Throughout Operation Protective Edge, Hamas has continuously used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields. The discovery of a Hamas “urban warfare” manual by IDF forces reveals that Hamas’ callous use of the Gazan population was intentional and preplanned.

This Hamas urban warfare manual exposes two truths: (1) The terror group knows full well that the IDF will do what it can to limit civilian casualties. (2) The terror group exploits these efforts by using civilians as human shields against advancing IDF forces.

In a portion entitled “Limiting the Use of Weapons,” the manual explains that:

The soldiers and commanders (of the IDF) must limit their use of weapons and tactics that lead to the harm and unnecessary loss of people and [destruction of] civilian facilities. It is difficult for them to get the most use out of their firearms, especially of supporting fire [e.g. artillery].

Clearly Hamas knows the IDF will limit its use of weapons in order to avoid harming civilians, including refraining from using larger firepower to support for infantry.

The manual goes on to explain that the “presence of civilians are pockets of resistance” that cause three major problems for advancing troops:

(1) Problems with opening fire
(2) Problems in controlling the civilian population during operations and afterward
(3) Assurance of supplying medical care to civilians who need it

Lastly, the manual discusses the benefits for Hamas when civilian homes are destroyed:

The destruction of civilian homes: This increases the hatred of the citizens towards the attackers [the IDF] and increases their gathering [support] around the city defenders (resistance forces[i.e. Hamas]).

It is clear that Hamas actually desires the destruction of homes and civilian infrastructure, knowing it will increase hatred for the IDF and support their fighters.

http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/04/captured-hamas-combat-manual-explains-benefits-human-shields/

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Need to be compared with the Tea Party manual...

 
legendary
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August 04, 2014, 09:20:15 PM
#48
Still nothing but baseless accusations from zolace. No credible sources cited. I'm beginning to think he is nothing more than a troll.

He's not a troll; AFAIK he's a progressive or something similar, which means he has to call out his party's boogieman from time to time to reaffirm his beliefs.  It's nothing to deliberately incite a reaction, people genuinely take this stuff seriously.  Divide and conquer tactics people mistake as ideology; in reality, they all support forced adherence to an authority (thus making it all the same fundamental ideology), the argument is just over how they'll adhere.
legendary
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August 04, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
#47
Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
When asked specifically what items he disagreed with on the Tea Party platform and why he feared them the above is his response. Totally incapable of any intelligent debate or to even stand up and defend his claims.  But no one expected you to actually debate your claims or defend your stance because we all know that would take a few more brain cells that you posses.
We agree with much of what the Tea Party says.  We also agreed with the promises Reagan, Bush and Bush made.  It just that they all turned out to be lies.  We are still waiting for the Republicans’ no nation building, cuts in government spending, cuts in taxes and paying off the national debt.  You know the things that happen under the Democrats.
For one, it's the TP folks that are trying to hold the republican establishment's line on caving on debt hikes over and above the true fiscal hawks in the liberty republican movement. Both of the parties have a political class and ruling elite and they both compromise our rights away. But to sit here and act like democrats are somehow different and that they are this savior of a party that cuts spending, doesn't nation build or pays off any portion of the national debt is beyond laughable. Currently, there isn't any identifiable element in the democratic party that stands for any of those things like there is and growing w/i the republican party. Why left leaning people don't admit that on one hand or give credit where credit is due on the other just flat out baffles me. The GOP establishment uses people of this mindset because they whip you all up about the non-establishment's supposed social views and then gets you all riled up to the point of meddling in GOP primaries to vote for the corporate bankster/special interest MIC establishment republicans that you supposedly hate. It's maddening. At least there's a growing anti-establishment status in the GOP that is looking to clean house, not so much on the left side is all they do is circle the wagons w/ drone talking points and fairy tales instead of lambasting the frauds on their side.
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August 04, 2014, 08:56:33 AM
#45
Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
When asked specifically what items he disagreed with on the Tea Party platform and why he feared them the above is his response. Totally incapable of any intelligent debate or to even stand up and defend his claims.  But no one expected you to actually debate your claims or defend your stance because we all know that would take a few more brain cells that you posses.

agree no one will debate for nothing to claim somthing .
btw as you know this story of men seems like old school story.
sr. member
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August 04, 2014, 08:39:09 AM
#44
Debit has grown, you might ask the SENATE.  Four annual Budgets were not passed, do remember the law that was also changed.  You might take the time to ask what the motive is  or was about the budget.  Do remember that the budgit was stopped in the Senate, Democrate.
sr. member
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August 04, 2014, 08:36:45 AM
#43
Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
Then Bush’s wars, waste and tax cuts lead to inflation, the tax for mismanaging everything. It was this tax increase on the working class that triggered Bush’s Great Recession.  The Republicans mantra is “spend, tax and borrow”.
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August 04, 2014, 08:17:21 AM
#42
Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
When asked specifically what items he disagreed with on the Tea Party platform and why he feared them the above is his response. Totally incapable of any intelligent debate or to even stand up and defend his claims.  But no one expected you to actually debate your claims or defend your stance because we all know that would take a few more brain cells that you posses.
We agree with much of what the Tea Party says.  We also agreed with the promises Reagan, Bush and Bush made.  It just that they all turned out to be lies.  We are still waiting for the Republicans’ no nation building, cuts in government spending, cuts in taxes and paying off the national debt.  You know the things that happen under the Democrats.
sr. member
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August 04, 2014, 08:02:50 AM
#41
Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
When asked specifically what items he disagreed with on the Tea Party platform and why he feared them the above is his response. Totally incapable of any intelligent debate or to even stand up and defend his claims.  But no one expected you to actually debate your claims or defend your stance because we all know that would take a few more brain cells that you posses.
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August 02, 2014, 11:25:04 AM
#40
I've always considered the Tea Party as like a Christian Taliban group for the 1%ers.

Anything funded by neocons like the Koch brothers can only mean bad news.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 09:55:28 AM
#39
Still nothing but baseless accusations from zolace. No credible sources cited. I'm beginning to think he is nothing more than a troll.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 09:14:52 AM
#38
Lol comparing extremist groups and trying to find something in common.  Why not compare the LGBT fanatics versus the radical Muslims who want to kill people for being gay.  You think either of them would tolerate the other?   They both align into radical groups and I'm sure the LGBT group would be happy to bear arms against radical Muslims. You think LGBT would support Hamas?  Since LGBT isn't exactly friends with the Tea Party...

Anything touching islam is kryptonite for the pink mafia. Hamas is safe from them.

DrG
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 12:08:12 AM
#37
Lol comparing extremist groups and trying to find something in common.  Why not compare the LGBT fanatics versus the radical Muslims who want to kill people for being gay.  You think either of them would tolerate the other?   They both align into radical groups and I'm sure the LGBT group would be happy to bear arms against radical Muslims. You think LGBT would support Hamas?  Since LGBT isn't exactly friends with the Tea Party...
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August 01, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
#36
Yes, I am going to compare the two.  Both are predators who prey upon the uneducated, the poor, the disenfranchised.  Both spew outrageous propaganda filled with hate and division, in order to gain more power.  They also, at the same time, promote a conservative utopia - just at the end of a string.

Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions" but who's going to get hurt?  Not them - just the "little people."

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

So if you think American does something wrong and say that you stupid?  I don't support the Bachman, Palin type tea party because they are a fake clone that has successfully brainwashed people like yourself into believing the nonsense they spew.  You confuse Neocons in Tea Party clothing like most of those who don't understand the political games being played.  You even go as far as to compare them to a terrorist organization,  this is the real problem.
legendary
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August 01, 2014, 07:26:04 PM
#35


Canada: Tea Partier Shout “Heil Hitler” During Pro-Israel Rally In Calgary…(July 31 2014)

http://youtu.be/8vPla7pqqmQ

Obama should do something, even if this in Canada...




what can obama do? it's in canada, and even if it were in the U.S., they'd be protected under the first amendment.

I forgot to add those damned " Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes " They are not tea partiers, obvious when you click on the video.

sr. member
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August 01, 2014, 05:43:32 PM
#34


Canada: Tea Partier Shout “Heil Hitler” During Pro-Israel Rally In Calgary…(July 31 2014)

http://youtu.be/8vPla7pqqmQ

Obama should do something, even if this in Canada...




what can obama do? it's in canada, and even if it were in the U.S., they'd be protected under the first amendment.
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August 01, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
#33


Canada: Tea Partier Shout “Heil Hitler” During Pro-Israel Rally In Calgary…(July 31 2014)

http://youtu.be/8vPla7pqqmQ

Obama should do something, even if this in Canada...


legendary
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August 01, 2014, 03:47:16 PM
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Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.


I see the exact same tactics used by all political parties that promote Xenophobic Imperialism not just the right, please don't be another one of those people who conveniently ignores the crimes committed by 'their' side like so many people I've seen when they talk about who's right and who's wrong.
legendary
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August 01, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
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Looks like it is a Tea Party website. Hooo Yes! But it is! Cheesy Grin Cheesy Good job associating yourselves with people who cannot stand a man because he is black...




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