Topic: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets - page 3. (Read 648 times)

So in your opinion, it's all not without unprovoked?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/14/israels-bombardment-of-gaza-continues-live

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-rocket-war-for-al-aqsa-hamas-has-already-won-the-palestinian-leadership/

@Quickseller You are stupid, you have to look for valid and balanced information.

If you know the history of Israel and Palestine. The Israelis are just illegal immigrants who steal the homeland of Palestine. In fact, Israel has no homeland.



White: Yahudi (Israel)   RED: Palestine


Who are the terrorists and who are attacking civilians?

These are the partial Palestinian victims:



































ISRAEL THE REAL TERRORIST

it won't take that long. the conflict is going to end soon, my guess is in 10 years. but i don't know which one of the following scenarios is going to put an end to it.

first scenario is what i'm hoping for because it is the peaceful one and will have the least number of casualties.
it starts by powers such as US stopping their support of Israel terrorism.
then the world powers must sit both sides down at gunpoint and set the clear borders which they already know what they are too, they also mentioned them again during this conflict. and push Israel out of those regions.
Israel must also be disarmed by IAEA, be forced to sign NPT and be under serious inspections by IAEA agents with their snap inspections.
then regional powers must stand watch and each time either side crosses those borders they have to intervene with their military instead of just standing on the sides and condemn one side impotently. for example if Israel did another air invasion all their air fields must be bombed by US and Russia. not just invading Palestine, they are running their terrorist operations in a lot of countries in Middle East, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq,...
same with Palestine. if they went over those defined borders they must also be punished the same way.
the problem is that they come up with such "deals" while ignoring Palestinians then Israel also ignores that "deal" too keeps on invading and expanding, continuing the genocide!
this scenario has not happened yet because the word powers (US, Russia, China) love the chaos in Middle East since it benefits them greatly.

second scenario is going to be the worst.
the conflict keeps on growing and as the power of the resistance grows (as it has been over the past 7 decades each time they clash) eventually the small land that Israel has occupied so far will be taken back when they are attacked on all sides from all those countries they keep hitting every week by the same angry people their families they have been murdering.
the problem with this scenario is that it will have a lot of victims on both sides with Israel being wiped out and would only end up existing in history books. and the worst part is going to be Palestinians who would then be then in control of a possibly large nuclear arsenal who would also be angry about all those countries who have been supporting the genocide.

And what's the stance of United nation on it 

ok Mr. Forgot logic

do you realise the western developed countries conflict is based on skin colour
yes some athiests get enegised over team sport loyalism(sport fans rivalry)
so your solution is to... have no people with skin..have no sports
goodluck with that(facepalm)

whats next.. in capitalist consumerism belief cities.. ban all sales of all goods?

in a religious area. taking the religion away is not the solution
(im a strong athiest . but i think logically and practically)
the under lying issue is the current segregation is the cause of conflict.

so the real solution is remove the segregation.
enforcing more segregation isnt going to stop 2 religions from fighting.. its actually going to cause 2 religions then also turning on non-religious folk too. meaning your idea will cause more conflict

ever see a soccer yob(violent-aggressive fans). they mostly just fight the opposing team fanbase. they dont bother people that enjoy non-soccer related hobbies.. but if in your world they ban soccer. and you will see absolutely stupid acts of riots and protests aimed at any-everyone that doesnt like soccer

again solution should be. let the soccer fans of different teams unite in peace where they can happily share a stadium and celebrate their fanbase. .. not ban soccer fans from going to enjoy their favourite sport

Your saying won't matter in the opinion I stated above, cause just like what I've said, I disregarded other sides and focused on what the OP says, though personally, my opinion is not strict to one side, and there are too many sides in this topic.

Please correct me if I am wrong, when I study the history of Jews,  I fail to understand why their history  is so terrible, their empires were ruined by Romans , babbles, Iranians and many other nations and they were forced  to leave their homeland many times  and worst part of it is WW2 when Millions of Jews were murdered. Why they are always victim of Hatred by almost every  nation. Please don't misunderstand me I have mentioned historical facts and I never mean to hurt feelings of anybody.

What if I say the hamas from the Gaza is actually made of civilians, there is no separate people who called Hamas and they are portrayed as terrorists just because they are fighting for their rights.

There's too many sides to the story of how it started, and who is in the lesser evil spot. Nevertheless, I will disregard it and focus on the OP, assuming that it is all truth and nothing but the truth.

It is not by any means good to use civilians as a shield, even at war, they don't let civilians be part of it. It is like some kind of war rule/code.

Using them as a human shield is not acceptable.

The solution will be achieved atleast at the end of this world because that is the only way though since the clash is going for almost a century now and serious clash for over 60-70 years.

I am against any religious extremism. But what's Israel is doing to Palestinian has nothing to do with religion but an oppression of human rights.
The western world terms Chinese cultural assimilation of Xinjiang as genocide while keeps a blind eye on real genocide that's happening over Palestine.
I condone the terrorist attack of Israel over Gaza. The world has been glorifying the genocide of Hitler over Jews half a century ago every year while the Jews refugee nation of Israel keeps on doing same level of genocide each year to the people of Palestine.

Do you realize that this is a religious conflict?

Do you realize that without Judaism and Islam, there would be two things less to disagree and fight?

There would be just one country: Israeline (or Paletsrael) with Semitic people living there.  

There would be no Zionists or Islamists.

Human conscious is still  alive and now we can  see even in western countries liberal voices are rising against oppression of Israeli Military. Israelis are rapidly losing support of
International community but some western powers continue to support it because their economies are made hostage by Jewish capitalists as it happened in Germany before WW2. 

So in summary, if any Israel citizen is killed, it is because of the Hamas targeting civilians too. However, if any Palestinian citizen is killed, it is because of hamas themselves because of their misfire rockets.

Now don't you think that since the International TV media is all in control of Israel, they can do whatever they like and still blame/show Hamas for killing both in Palestinian and Israel citizens ?

Thanks for the social media, which can't be controlled and true face of Israel is being shown.

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you do realise that the latest tensions were triggered because of the lockdown and the banning of religious congregations

yep when one side used its police to tell the other side they cant pray at a certain temple.. the other side pushed back. then the police doubled the efforts and then the other side did.
.. it then escalated

inclusion is the solution not exclusion
its the same everywhere else.. segregation is not the solution. as black&white issues have learned

jerusalam is a religious area. so banning religion in an area of religion will just make all the religions fight the atheists
.. again not a solution.

inclusion. where it does not have a flag of any particular faith is the solution. allow any religion.. that is the solution. integration not segregation

heck.. in america.. even amung the atheists. if they suddenly banned anyone from admiring or dressing up or appreciating elvis. there will be protests and riots.
thats why the solution is to let people just be themselves and just dressup however they like.
if you dont want elvis banned then dont cry about wanting other appreciations banned

i dont like trump. but trying to ban people from wearing fake tans and blonde wigs is not the solution

I think we are debating non-issue and not talking about the root cause of the conflict  which is " Land Dispute" Nazis, Hitlor, Jews are irrelevant. This conflict will never end if International community consistently  fails to address the Real issue. Historically International community will intervene and do some fire fighting, nothing more than that.

This war had been going on for centuries already and that holy land doesn't look very holy when you get to see the grounds.

Many celebrities now react to what Israel is doing though. It appears like the media could turn the table since they now had been speaking against Israel shooting everywhere to the Palestinians, that's not good. If they are to shoot, they can shoot but not the civilians.

even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.

Hamas is using women and children as human shields. The Israelis try to get the civilians out of harms way when launching attacks against military targets. When Hamas launches attacks, they do not target military targets, they target civilians.

Israel targets military targets that have things like weapons stashes, military infrastructure, solders, and terrorist leaders. Hamas intentionally has these targets near where civilians live so the humans can be used as human shields. Hamas also will launch rockets from areas inhabited by civilians, and it is not uncommon for the rockets to misfire and to hit Palestinian citizens.

There is no reason for Israel is not use the maximum available force at their disposal. The strength of Israel's military is no secret. Hamas is the aggressor, and launched rocket attacks against Israel unprovoked.

Hamas is trying to kill all the jewish people. This is exactly what the nazis were trying to do.