It is not really that shocking considering so far in the world people always funded all these militia and whatever with dollars or any fiat they could find so of course if you provide them with something better than fiat they will use it. People started to buy coffee with bitcoin, they used to use fiat, people started to buy groceries with bitcoin they used to do it with fiat, people started to spend bitcoin on burger joints they used to only accept bitcoin.
Well obviously, people started to use bitcoin to crowdfund hamas which used to use only fiat. That is not really fault of bitcoin, bitcoin is money, its exactly what dollar/euro/yuan and what not is, so telling bitcoin is the enabler of these things is just pure ill mannered and shows who is against bitcoin and who is not.
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I don't like Bitcoin being connected with military or political causes but I guess this is inevitable.This gives bad reputation and encourages those who are against use of Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is available to everyone and everyone can use it as it wants but sometimes that also means abuse.
That's bad and that's an actual risk that the enforcement agencies are talking since the inception of bitcoin. We can't ignore the fact that bitcoin comes with the increased risk of fraud, scam and terrorism funding which actually damages its reputation. I hope the account holders that are funding against humanity gets caught soon for the betterment of crypto ecosystem. This is one kind of adoption that we never wanted in this system.
But the country where the militant group is from has fiat currency rights? So what stops the group from raising funds with the local currency? Or what stops foreign sympathizers from sending them funds via multiple accounts to the group local banks.
Fiat currencies are used by criminals on regular basis, of course you hardly see it being mentioned.
@Renaldi blackspadeteam , sure it bring bad reputation to cryptos but that does not cause or that is not the reason on why the price is falling . price only falls because people sells and whales also sells large volume of coins .
I don't know but it looks like media news is giving false news about why bitcoin prices are down and maybe many people have trusted FUD, .I think there may be a lot of whales selling large amounts of assets, and I have guessed, the pope can manipulate prices 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/yayafanusie/2019/02/04/hamas-military-wing-crowdfunding-bitcoin/#230531d74d7f
Jihadists are at it again, trying to raise money through Bitcoin. And this time, their efforts may be getting some traction.
Last week, the military wing of Hamas, known as the al-Qassam Brigades, called on supporters to send Bitcoin to the group. The U.S. designated Hamas as a terrorist group in 1997 and has shut down charities for funding the organization. Since 2007, the jihadist organization has governed the Gaza Strip. It has been under financial strain in recent years, however, largely due to sanctions applied to the group by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, but also because of diminishing support from Iran, neighboring Egypt closing off smuggling tunnels, and economic pressure from the U.S., Europe, Israel, and some Arab countries.
Soon after announcing its intention to crowdfund through Bitcoin, the al-Qassam Brigades posted infographics about Bitcoin on social media and provided a Bitcoin address to which donors could send funds. Within a day, the Hamas digital wallet received roughly $900, although it can not be verified if all funds came from external parties. Most donations were less than $100, although a few were larger. Then, days later, the group posted an additional Bitcoin address.
In less than a week, its wallets received over $2,500 worth of Bitcoin.
Jihadists are at it again, trying to raise money through Bitcoin. And this time, their efforts may be getting some traction.
Last week, the military wing of Hamas, known as the al-Qassam Brigades, called on supporters to send Bitcoin to the group. The U.S. designated Hamas as a terrorist group in 1997 and has shut down charities for funding the organization. Since 2007, the jihadist organization has governed the Gaza Strip. It has been under financial strain in recent years, however, largely due to sanctions applied to the group by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, but also because of diminishing support from Iran, neighboring Egypt closing off smuggling tunnels, and economic pressure from the U.S., Europe, Israel, and some Arab countries.
Soon after announcing its intention to crowdfund through Bitcoin, the al-Qassam Brigades posted infographics about Bitcoin on social media and provided a Bitcoin address to which donors could send funds. Within a day, the Hamas digital wallet received roughly $900, although it can not be verified if all funds came from external parties. Most donations were less than $100, although a few were larger. Then, days later, the group posted an additional Bitcoin address.
In less than a week, its wallets received over $2,500 worth of Bitcoin.
This is a big problem for the image of Bitcoin again, after all this crashes, 2 years and still crawling up again. If some billionaire guys donated tons of Bitcoin then it will be a mess (Who might that be? But I do have a bad feeling about this as there are evidence that civil war would happen in Egypt also like what happened to other Arab countries such as Libya,Syria, Palestine name it!). Why should it come to this point? I am now hoping for a positive trend but seeing this makes me feel sick. Hope that this won't go any worst.
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bitcoin is not only used to fund terrorists, but it can be used to buy illegal goods, this is the reason many oppose cryptocurrency and make asset prices on the market fall,
I hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
it happened because of its anonymity. I think the government can prevent it by finding the right policy. in some countries this reason is often used not to legalize bitcoin, but I am sure in the future they will realize that crypto must be legalizedI hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
That is why people in out there still thinking that bitcoin is only for illegal activity and makes them afraid to join in the crypto world. But soon, after they read another good news of the crypto, they will see that the crypto is like a knife and it depends on the user itself. But that news will make many governments aware and make investigations about the funds, and I think they will get prepare if the Hamas makes something bad.
bitcoin is not only used to fund terrorists, but it can be used to buy illegal goods, this is the reason many oppose cryptocurrency and make asset prices on the market fall,
I hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
it happened because of its anonymity. I think the government can prevent it by finding the right policy. in some countries this reason is often used not to legalize bitcoin, but I am sure in the future they will realize that crypto must be legalizedI hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
Did the government do anything for fiats to stop criminals and bad guys from using it or from using it for their bad doings ? No I dont think so , same applies in crypto . government cant also do anything to stop the bad guys even if the cryptos are being regulated or controlled by them .
@Renaldi blackspadeteam , sure it bring bad reputation to cryptos but that does not cause or that is not the reason on why the price is falling . price only falls because people sells and whales also sells large volume of coins .
bitcoin is not only used to fund terrorists, but it can be used to buy illegal goods, this is the reason many oppose cryptocurrency and make asset prices on the market fall,
I hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
it happened because of its anonymity. I think the government can prevent it by finding the right policy. in some countries this reason is often used not to legalize bitcoin, but I am sure in the future they will realize that crypto must be legalized I hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
bitcoin is not only used to fund terrorists, but it can be used to buy illegal goods, this is the reason many oppose cryptocurrency and make asset prices on the market fall,
I hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
I hope the government doesn't think negatively about cryptocurrency,
but with the changing times I think cryptocurrency will be legal money in all countries, it only takes time.
That's bad and that's an actual risk that the enforcement agencies are talking since the inception of bitcoin. We can't ignore the fact that bitcoin comes with the increased risk of fraud, scam and terrorism funding which actually damages its reputation. I hope the account holders that are funding against humanity gets caught soon for the betterment of crypto ecosystem. This is one kind of adoption that we never wanted in this system.
Like there wasn't any terrorism or drug deals or scams before the Bitcoin existence. Suddenly everything started just 10 years ago
The news will be used for FUD for sure, but I don't think it will lead to something more serious.
Edit: just a quick example = https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2018/11/19/509636.htm
They are talking about 200B Euro's or just 80 000 000 bigger amount than OP's stated wallet.
If they're really wanted to raise funds without government following them then bitcoin is not a good coin. I'm sure alphabets agency are going after that address that the moment they exchange them the funds will be frozen. Well, this is bad news for crypto and I'm sure media will ride this one and make bitcoin bad again.
There are lots of mixer services that is available already and those agencies won't track down where the money goes as it is being liquidated already into fiat. Well, the amount that they have received is not that much since Bitcoin market is not yet in a bull run i assume they have to hodl it first until 2020+ or something. That's bad and that's an actual risk that the enforcement agencies are talking since the inception of bitcoin. We can't ignore the fact that bitcoin comes with the increased risk of fraud, scam and terrorism funding which actually damages its reputation. I hope the account holders that are funding against humanity gets caught soon for the betterment of crypto ecosystem. This is one kind of adoption that we never wanted in this system.
Like there wasn't any terrorism or drug deals or scams before the Bitcoin existence. Suddenly everything started just 10 years ago
The news will be used for FUD for sure, but I don't think it will lead to something more serious.
Edit: just a quick example = https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2018/11/19/509636.htm
They are talking about 200B Euro's or just 80 000 000 bigger amount than OP's stated wallet.
This is a bad news, some of the people that not understand about bitcoin will accused bitcoin being used for terrorist activity and the government could become hesitate in adopting crypto, but one thing that cross my mind is bitcoin is not too anonymous, we still can trace back the sender, I think the news is a bit odd, the group supposed to be looking for some crypto that really anonymous rather than using bitcoin
If the option of bitcoin is not available to them right now then they might be trying out the same crowdfunding with some other payment processors like prefect money or something else. Terrorism is not new here and their ways of fund rising is also not new here. It means we should not give attention to this kind of media as they are indirectly trying accuse bitcoins whereas the actual problem is persisting for decades and governments are busy with something else.
Why Forbes (and others) is not at all pointing out on how charities are easily able to collect funds across borders with the help of bitcoins and how easily crypto based crowdfunding are being done and helping new start ups to flourish to bring innovative solutions to old problems.
Why Forbes (and others) is not at all pointing out on how charities are easily able to collect funds across borders with the help of bitcoins and how easily crypto based crowdfunding are being done and helping new start ups to flourish to bring innovative solutions to old problems.
If they want a stealth crowdfunding then definitely Bitcoin is not the coin for them, they should have shifted to privacy coin instead. This group doesn’t really know how the cryptocurrency works or maybe they’re not aware that Bitcoin system is transparent in nature.
Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by the US and other strong country, meaning that they should not be allowed to use Coinbase due to KYC and AML procedures. So the question is how they do this without any help of others.
They gain some support that allow them to collect some bitcoin. They already raise money meaning bitcoin can really be use for this kind of action, and maybe this is the reason why government are still hate cryptos. They still have the connection in government, and thats why they are too confident to do this.We will never know what is going on off the record. The secret intelligence agencies do a lot of work under the people's sight. Maybe Hamas has connections to institutions that we don't know and probably we will never do. The thing that I can be sure of is that the US may know about this funding or they could be part of it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/yayafanusie/2019/02/04/hamas-military-wing-crowdfunding-bitcoin/#230531d74d7f
Jihadists are at it again, trying to raise money through Bitcoin. And this time, their efforts may be getting some traction.
Last week, the military wing of Hamas, known as the al-Qassam Brigades, called on supporters to send Bitcoin to the group. The U.S. designated Hamas as a terrorist group in 1997 and has shut down charities for funding the organization. Since 2007, the jihadist organization has governed the Gaza Strip. It has been under financial strain in recent years, however, largely due to sanctions applied to the group by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, but also because of diminishing support from Iran, neighboring Egypt closing off smuggling tunnels, and economic pressure from the U.S., Europe, Israel, and some Arab countries.
Soon after announcing its intention to crowdfund through Bitcoin, the al-Qassam Brigades posted infographics about Bitcoin on social media and provided a Bitcoin address to which donors could send funds. Within a day, the Hamas digital wallet received roughly $900, although it can not be verified if all funds came from external parties. Most donations were less than $100, although a few were larger. Then, days later, the group posted an additional Bitcoin address.
In less than a week, its wallets received over $2,500 worth of Bitcoin.
Jihadists are at it again, trying to raise money through Bitcoin. And this time, their efforts may be getting some traction.
Last week, the military wing of Hamas, known as the al-Qassam Brigades, called on supporters to send Bitcoin to the group. The U.S. designated Hamas as a terrorist group in 1997 and has shut down charities for funding the organization. Since 2007, the jihadist organization has governed the Gaza Strip. It has been under financial strain in recent years, however, largely due to sanctions applied to the group by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, but also because of diminishing support from Iran, neighboring Egypt closing off smuggling tunnels, and economic pressure from the U.S., Europe, Israel, and some Arab countries.
Soon after announcing its intention to crowdfund through Bitcoin, the al-Qassam Brigades posted infographics about Bitcoin on social media and provided a Bitcoin address to which donors could send funds. Within a day, the Hamas digital wallet received roughly $900, although it can not be verified if all funds came from external parties. Most donations were less than $100, although a few were larger. Then, days later, the group posted an additional Bitcoin address.
In less than a week, its wallets received over $2,500 worth of Bitcoin.
If this news was true, then the government will act unto it accordingly and would probably be having bad consequences to Bitcoin itself. However even with the progressions, we can say that it could possibly help raise the price of Bitcoin to another level.
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We know that by using bitcoin, we can receive the funds from an anonymous person and I guess many other group or people will use bitcoin to raise the fundraising. But it depends on that person itself, because as long as they can use bitcoin for good things, then people in the outside will know that bitcoin can be used for bad things or good things and it depends on the purposes itself. We cannot judge them by doing the wrong way of using bitcoin because I am sure that there will many people using bitcoin for good things.
Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by the US and other strong country, meaning that they should not be allowed to use Coinbase due to KYC and AML procedures. So the question is how they do this without any help of others.
They gain some support that allow them to collect some bitcoin. They already raise money meaning bitcoin can really be use for this kind of action, and maybe this is the reason why government are still hate cryptos. They still have the connection in government, and thats why they are too confident to do this.Every currency like fiat money can use for any action like terorism or others criminal activity. Bitcoin is just a tool and its depending on user want to use. Bitcoin dont have relation with terorism or other criminal activity because every fiat money used for criminal activity too
Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by the US and other strong country, meaning that they should not be allowed to use Coinbase due to KYC and AML procedures. So the question is how they do this without any help of others.
They gain some support that allow them to collect some bitcoin. They already raise money meaning bitcoin can really be use for this kind of action, and maybe this is the reason why government are still hate cryptos. They still have the connection in government, and thats why they are too confident to do this.Every currency like fiat money can use for any action like terorism or others criminal activity. Bitcoin is just a tool and its depending on user want to use. Bitcoin dont have relation with terorism or other criminal activity because every fiat money used for criminal activity too
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