Topic: Happy birthday, the merit system! - page 2. (Read 1011 times)

And that is what it should be like, a Legendary rank really meaning something!!
Besides, is there real purpose of becoming Legendary other than getting into better paying campaigns?

If you want to show off how long you have been on the forum, there is activity, if how much trust people have in you there is the trust system, merit shows how much people care about your ideas...
The rank...is kind of useless.


And that's what we all want, right?


Another proof airdrop merit should at least enter a decay phase...

I'm fine with removing airdropped merits, but in that case we should recalculate the merit limits for ranking up.
It can happen based on the observation of the amount of the merits gathered in 1 year time.
Rank   Required activity   Required merit
Brand new   0   0
Newbie   1   0
Jr Member   30   1
Member   60   10
Full Member   120   100
Sr. Member   240   250
Hero Member   480   500
Legendary   Random in the range 775-1030   1000

For the newbies, juniors and members, you can see that the merits needed for the rank up are low, compared to the activity. (required merit/activity ratio is way below 100%)
From Full member rank, you have to get nearly as many merits  as the required activity. (required merit/activity ratio is 83.3%)
For Sr. members, Heroes more merit is required than activity. (required merit/activity ratio is 104.16%)
Legendaries are a bit different, based on the luck, it varies from 97% to 129%

Based on my observations (and that can be wrong of course), (for the normal average users) 50% required merit/activity ratio would be still hard enough to achieve, so this would still slow down the ranking up process significantly, compared to the 'no merit' times.
This would motivate the normal users a bit more to post quality and wouls still stop spammers.

Anyway, happy birthday Merit
 

This has been suggested multiple times, restrictions on signature for members who have failed to earn a single merit should be extended to those who had merits airdropped. Theymos has talked about how anyone who can not earn the minimum is not needed on the forum, this should be all inclusive

sadly i was not there to witness the birth of the merit system, strangely i am nearly in top 100 merit receivers( been active on the forum for only the last 3 months) ironically many old members are still jr members without airdropped merit.

This would be a pretty radical move but it does make sense. A year has been more than enough time for everyone's merit to reflect who they actually are.

I see a few sig campaigns have merit requirements separate to airdropped levels such as 50 earned or 10 in the last two months. Either make that mandatory or drop the hammer.

Lols...
So we would have 3 days of mourning?
The first one was a serious blow, then came the 1 merit requirement which destroyed a few more lives and now you're supporting a total purge?

Thumbs up! Bring it on!!!! Although I'll end u as a senior member, f**** it, by the next bull run I'll be legendary!


Or the decline in real ICO and the fact that 99% of them are scams?
I would bet on the later.

I rarely browse the altcoin section but all I see there are bounty hunters asking each other if it's still worth to "do bounty".

Here’s a quick look at the amount of forum members that have managed to rank-up by means of the Merit System so far (to be really thorough, I should update this image on the week-end, after I integrate tomorrow’s merit.txt file):



Edit: List to all the above forum members that have ranked-up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18Qu0_AAwwU9TyiFp7DhwgpySkdFMAssRiCmeQ62mHg8/edit?usp=sharing

Ideally the number wouldn't be reduced in the slightest. It would hopefully encourage posters to up their game accordingly. I can't imagine many will of course.

Gotta say I'm slightly shocked at how piddling the numbers are of people who've ranked up from any level.

Not that big of a difference on a macro scale. 5k newbies (IIRC) have been able to rank up since the 1-merit requirement introduction, which sounds like a lot but now it has slowed down to a trickle, just a few hundred a month.

Make it 3 merits and the 5k will drop to maybe 1k total, and 100 a month (I'm sure someone can pull more accurate numbers on that). How much more do we want to reduce it? 1k could be relatively easily managed, e.g. reported to mods when appropriate etc.

Honestly, I'm not exactly sure if the introduction of the merit system was essential in reducing spam. I believe that it has had a much greater influence by encouraging a more elaborate production of good topics and good responses. Many users began to care more about what they were writing in the expectation of receiving merits as a reward.

The reduction in spam may only have actually occurred with the introduction of 1 merit to turn Jr. And perhaps, as suggested, increase the number of merits required to climb the ranks at the lowest levels could be great for the forum.

Price may have been a much more influential factor in reducing spam. With the constant drop in prices, the incentive to produce spam has decreased.

coinmarketcap snap 1 year ago.

I've been advocating for this for a while, but 3-5 is still too low in my opinion. I think a 10 merit minimum is the way to go. 1 (and probably 3) is too easy to beg, buy or trade for, and with the number of airdropped sMerits still waiting to be used, we will be seeing plenty of 1 merit spammers for a long time yet.

I also think changing it from 10 total merit to 10 earned merit would also be a good step. There are plenty of spammers in more senior ranks too. If you haven't been able to earn 10 merit in the space of a year, then you are almost certainly a spammer.

Happy 1st Anniversary Merit!!

Wishing you many more 

I think that's the next step. Upping it from 1 to 3-5 as a minimum would be the fatal blow to many dunderhead dreams. That's achievable but takes out the fluke factor completely. You'll actually have to be vaguely useful.

Sure, when bitcoin rises and hits its new all time high next years, they will come back, and a new massive wave of spambies will occur.

January 24th 2018 - the day when thousands of lifes were ruined
Maybe it's time to remove all airdropped Merits? There are thousands of Full, Senior or Hero members who haven't managed to earn even 1 Merit. But they still can use all privilleges of their rank and continue spamming without thinking about quality of their posts
I don't think that decreasing number of posts made are caused only by Merit system. It's also directly related to Bitcoin price. I remember someone even made chart where we can see relation between Bitcoin price and number of posts made on Bitcointalk.

I think that the demotion option might be a good one.
It's hard to accept for them but why not implementing demotions?

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I am not sure who is the first merit source, but Lutpin is the one I saw his merits increased significantly during early days after the merit system born.
The first one commented after merit system ANN published.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28856606
He is a good candidate of the first merit source.

The introduction of the merit system and The new rule (1 Merit for Jr. Member) is already reducing spam had a positive impact on the forum. Let the changed trust system change bitcointalk for the better.

Happy 1 Birthday Merit System !!!

I can't say I was paying much attention to this anniversary.

Its been a nice improvement overall.  I agree one of the best side benefits i hadn't thought of before us how easily it tipped people off to alt accounts and account farmers, trying to game the system.

Ill never forget the day it took its first stood up from a crawl and wiped out an impressive amount if shitposters with the 1 merit requirement. Now if we could bump that up it would be great.

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While much of this place might still seem to be a spam/scamfest in many ways, I shudder to think of what it would be without the Merit system.