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Topic: Hard Fork - August 2 - page 2. (Read 1391 times)

newbie
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July 09, 2017, 10:55:56 PM
#11
I want a real chance for users to vote.

You have that chance, you need to download bitcoin core softward and launch a node. No need to commit to mining, just  having a node gives you the opportunity to vote on the type of transactions you're accepting.

You can find the download link to the software at the top of every page on this forum at: News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core...

I realize you think it's crap but it's literally how you activate your vote. The money comes second. You don't get a choice to to decide the favored chain if you're not running a node. You just get to decide to go with the flow or go with the "no". It's like the feeling people have voting in a two party system...they feel compelled to vote for one of the two major parties and voting a third party would be like voting for the dying coin version.


I find it a misconception. If there is no Hashrate in the UASF chain, there isn't even a vote to be had. So whichever node you run has little meaning. This is all between the Miners and Exchanges. Miners will propose solutions, Exchanges will delegate the vote to the crowd by listing them.

UASF would be just the same without the 1 person 1 node propaganda. You might argue it has social relevance. Like a sit in in front of the white house. Or a hunger strike. It's a legitimate way to show discontent. But in the end, it is not how you exercise your vote. By running a node, you are just signalling intention. To act upon it you have to put your money or it is meaningless.  

Your money is how you vote. Which is a perfect system for me, because it ensures you vote responsibly and look for information rather than being spoonfed by CNN.
member
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July 09, 2017, 10:50:55 PM
#10
what happened for Bitcoin Unlimited? Once ever, I buy BTU on bitfinex, but bitfinex seems like an unethical businessman, merciful, and shortly after, BTU is gone away

BTU is Jihan premined scamcoin

so bitfinex is also a scamexchange.
hero member
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Merit: 638
July 09, 2017, 10:43:24 PM
#9
I want a real chance for users to vote.

You have that chance, you need to download bitcoin core softward and launch a node. No need to commit to mining, just  having a node gives you the opportunity to vote on the type of transactions you're accepting.

You can find the download link to the software at the top of every page on this forum at: News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core...

I realize you think it's crap but it's literally how you activate your vote. The money comes second. You don't get a choice to to decide the favored chain if you're not running a node. You just get to decide to go with the flow or go with the "no". It's like the feeling people have voting in a two party system...they feel compelled to vote for one of the two major parties and voting a third party would be like voting for the dying coin version.



Stupid poll. Where's the option for "Fuck segwit, it's poision. We need a big block for to 8mb asap!"?

I couldn't agree more, hahaha. Well said!
newbie
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July 09, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
#8
I want a real chance for users to vote.

This means a chain split and we will vote with our money. The Full Node propaganda is crap and even if it had any technical support, any sane user, and by user I mean Exchanges who control the money flow, will just run 2 nodes. The only way for ALL users to have a say, is for both Chains to be listed and let users dump whichever they don't like. 

So yes. I want a chain split so I can have a say in this.
hero member
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July 09, 2017, 10:25:57 PM
#7
Stupid poll. Where's the option for "Fuck segwit, it's poision. We need a big block for to 8mb asap!"?
hero member
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July 09, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
#6
You're missing an option in your poll which should be, "no, but we need to scale up transaction throughput!"

The only reason there will be a fork is if people refuse to let Bitcoin evolve to meet its adoption.

And Segwit makes no sense to me. If the witness is separated (segregated) from the transaction details, can it ever be linked back up or are they separate forever. I don't know about you but I want a witness validating my transaction...I want it to be public that money sent to my BTC address is meant for my BTC address and no one elses.

The only reason a fork will occur is those that refuse to evolve. Technically there was a fork in transportation when the automobile was invented...some people refused to use it and continued to use horse drawn buggy. That didn't turn out so well for the horse and buggy traditionalists.

P.S. the Segwit date is set for August 1st, no?
member
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July 09, 2017, 10:14:26 PM
#5
what happened for Bitcoin Unlimited? Once ever, I buy BTU on bitfinex, but bitfinex seems like an unethical businessman, merciful, and shortly after, BTU is gone away

BTU is Jihan premined scamcoin
member
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Merit: 10
July 09, 2017, 10:09:26 PM
#4
what happened for Bitcoin Unlimited? Once ever, I buy BTU on bitfinex, but bitfinex seems like an unethical businessman, merciful, and shortly after, BTU is gone away
hero member
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July 09, 2017, 09:58:56 PM
#3
Personally, I don't want bitcoin to split. It is a confusing process and it will affect the businesses and merchants who allow Bitcoin as payment. It will basically stuff up the entire Bitcoin landscape. However, I still think we need to implement SegWit. Block size is a big issue and if we can actually reduce the space that a transaction takes up by 60%, then it will sole many problems, for now. But in the future we would probably need to use another method when more people become involved into Bitcoin.

What do you think?

EDIT: Sorry about the title. I meant to write August 1. Is there anyway I can edit that?
Yes you can ironically EDIT that mate, though that's a good title as every one only talks about the day 1 but nothing about the day after that.

The day after August the first I could imagine Wu jumping up and down in a 6 stars hotel on a honeymoon king size bed shouting how he just managed

To earn hundreds of millions by causing a chaotic environment around the Bitcoin community and then he just bought all the dumped coins.
full member
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Snip CEO
July 09, 2017, 09:42:51 PM
#2
Best that Bitcoin doesn't split but a centralized Bitcoin is a dead Bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
July 09, 2017, 09:17:23 PM
#1
Personally, I don't want bitcoin to split. It is a confusing process and it will affect the businesses and merchants who allow Bitcoin as payment. It will basically stuff up the entire Bitcoin landscape. However, I still think we need to implement SegWit. Block size is a big issue and if we can actually reduce the space that a transaction takes up by 60%, then it will sole many problems, for now. But in the future we would probably need to use another method when more people become involved into Bitcoin.

What do you think?

EDIT: Sorry about the title. I meant to write August 1. Is there anyway I can edit that?
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