Hard fork Bitcoin with the strengths of altcoins now!

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Quote from: solitude on May 19, 2015, 10:54:46 PM

I value a conservative approach, but if Bitcoin is really open source then what's stopping us from hard forking 100% anonymity that some altcoins are currently enjoying?

Does it really take months of work to make Bitcoin 100% anonymous?

7 Transactions a second, another issue that shouldn't be an issue. It's simply not enough for the future. Why wait until 2016 for a hard fork?

Let's hard fork this shit and send these make-believe pretend shitcoins to their graves where they belong. Altcoins are a cancer.

It's not that simple. You can't just fork and expect people to use it. Look at bitcoin cash, no one is using it..

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Second Bitcoin Hard Fork Debate Escalates as November Nears. September is almost over, and the Segwit2x plan to hard fork the network’s block size to 2MB is approaching quickly. Because time is running out the topic is once again heating up, as some New York Agreement (NYA) signatories have removed themselves from the list, with arguments between users and industry members continuing to escalate. https://t.co/Z6lkOB9n29

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well i guess there is a point to altcoins gets no name on them,but i understand why governments wanna to know who is and his pocket.... why ,well traffic can easy enter and start paying and receiveing bitcoins or others altcoins as payments soo you would never know who are them or where the money came from.I guess this already happens,then they get someone that trade at some exchange and just start the easy work... i made 20%profit of my investment lol soo no way to track all money that get in on alcoins.

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Quote from: solitude on May 19, 2015, 10:54:46 PM

I value a conservative approach, but if Bitcoin is really open source then what's stopping us from hard forking 100% anonymity that some altcoins are currently enjoying?

Does it really take months of work to make Bitcoin 100% anonymous?

7 Transactions a second, another issue that shouldn't be an issue. It's simply not enough for the future. Why wait until 2016 for a hard fork?

Let's hard fork this shit and send these make-believe pretend shitcoins to their graves where they belong. Altcoins are a cancer.

Altcoins are not cancer. Now crypto is run on many platforms that adds to progress. Crypto would be way behind as it is now if only Bitcoin would exist. No altcoin will be 100% anonymous. The ones that are closest to 99.99999% run on Cryptonote, that is different technology, so sort of cant be possible in Bitcoin.

Bitcoin dont need to be a anonymous!!!

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Quote from: Amph on May 25, 2015, 02:42:31 PM

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It is a bit weird with Monero, every single thread that they can they bring it, there are planty of anonymous coins that could easily be used for this kind of need.

Didnt the OP talk about anonymity? Monero is on-topic.

BTW there is no other coin in which BTC core devs have shown interest. The cryptonote protocol is state of the art opaque blockchain system, i dont see any shitcoin being remotely close to it. Dont be an ill informed hater, read the cryptonote whitepaper

I am saying that Monero is not the only option for anonymous transactions and there are many Bitcoin Core Devs, which one has shown interest (and what do you count as interest)?

It certainly seems the most viable one at this point in time.

if he is talking about the other cryptonote coins, then it still better to use monero than using its clone, and i'm not aware of a better technology than ring signature for anonimity

He is likely talking about DRK/DASH. There is just too much dishonesty in its history and community for it to ever be a serious contender.

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Quote from: wpalczynski on May 25, 2015, 02:29:32 PM

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It is a bit weird with Monero, every single thread that they can they bring it, there are planty of anonymous coins that could easily be used for this kind of need.

Didnt the OP talk about anonymity? Monero is on-topic.

BTW there is no other coin in which BTC core devs have shown interest. The cryptonote protocol is state of the art opaque blockchain system, i dont see any shitcoin being remotely close to it. Dont be an ill informed hater, read the cryptonote whitepaper

I am saying that Monero is not the only option for anonymous transactions and there are many Bitcoin Core Devs, which one has shown interest (and what do you count as interest)?

It certainly seems the most viable one at this point in time.

if he is talking about the other cryptonote coins, then it still better to use monero than using its clone, and i'm not aware of a better technology than ring signature for anonimity

wpalczynski

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Quote from: GTO911 on May 21, 2015, 02:38:31 PM

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It is a bit weird with Monero, every single thread that they can they bring it, there are planty of anonymous coins that could easily be used for this kind of need.

Didnt the OP talk about anonymity? Monero is on-topic.

BTW there is no other coin in which BTC core devs have shown interest. The cryptonote protocol is state of the art opaque blockchain system, i dont see any shitcoin being remotely close to it. Dont be an ill informed hater, read the cryptonote whitepaper

I am saying that Monero is not the only option for anonymous transactions and there are many Bitcoin Core Devs, which one has shown interest (and what do you count as interest)?

It certainly seems the most viable one at this point in time.

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I am saying that Monero is not the only option for anonymous transactions and there are many Bitcoin Core Devs, which one has shown interest (and what do you count as interest)?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gmaxwell-11425

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/579090039012925440

Not a dev but should count
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9780400

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It is a bit weird with Monero, every single thread that they can they bring it, there are planty of anonymous coins that could easily be used for this kind of need.

Didnt the OP talk about anonymity? Monero is on-topic.

BTW there is no other coin in which BTC core devs have shown interest. The cryptonote protocol is state of the art opaque blockchain system, i dont see any shitcoin being remotely close to it. Dont be an ill informed hater, read the cryptonote whitepaper

GTO911

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Not possible, Bitcoin is a transparent blockchain, it will always stay like that.

Use a different tool for a different use, use XMR

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Quote from: solitude on May 19, 2015, 10:54:46 PM

Does it really take months of work to make Bitcoin 100% anonymous?

The core developers aren't trying to make bitcoin 100% anonymous, nor should they. If you're waiting for that, you'll be waiting until infinity. Cheesy

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I think there's just a huge dilemma among bitcoin supporters. There's the crowd that wants mass adoption and there's the crowd that wants to keep it special, anonymous... and very very nerdy to keep out the non-hackers.

It's a very tumultuous time for bitcoin. I can't wait for the next record setting surge that will make several nerds very very rich. And I really can't wait for the movie. I mean... just the characters involved would be so hilarious to see who they cast for them. The winklevais, mt gox dude, Dred Pirate Roberts, and a cast of thousands.

What really drives me nuts is how altcoins factor into bitcoins and how these markets work together. All the arbitrage too... it's totally maddening.

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Quote from: pedrog on May 20, 2015, 03:33:38 PM

How much research as been put into those "100% anonymous" coins?

Has the technology been proper tested and reviewed by domain experts? If so how many? Where can I see the conclusions?

Here it is for monero.

https://downloads.getmonero.org/whitepaper_review.pdf

Lots of other data on getmonero.org, especially the monero research lab.

https://lab.getmonero.org/

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Why the rush? Also, no one is stopping anyone to create a fork of their own. The only problem that someone will encounter in case they did a hard fork is gaining trust and consensus from the network and from the community. You can freely create a fork if you want to, no one and nothing hinders you from doing it. Also, why would you integrate some altcoins concept if you consider them as a cancer in the first place? That seems to be ironic.

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There is no problems with bitcoin at the moment that is vital.. And the only "fork" that will happen is the size will go from 1mb to 20mb (or 10, I cant remember)
Doing a fork to add stealth or something silly like that is just dump and stupid to gamble with the whole system just for that.

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Quote from: solitude on May 19, 2015, 10:54:46 PM

Does it really take months of work to make [snip}

The end of that sentence is unimportant. The answer is "No" if you don't care about the end product. The answer is "Yes" if you do care. The actual end product does not matter.

If you want to be anonymous, then use an "anonymous" altcoin.

If you're unhappy with Bitcoin code, re-code it and gain mass consensus that your way is better.

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How much research as been put into those "100% anonymous" coins?

Has the technology been proper tested and reviewed by domain experts? If so how many? Where can I see the conclusions?

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Hard fork is not a thing that can be done quickly and badly
You need time and tests to leave clear that all the system is going to run ok and without a failure
A problem might be fatal

wpalczynski

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Quote from: solitude on May 19, 2015, 10:54:46 PM

I value a conservative approach, but if Bitcoin is really open source then what's stopping us from hard forking 100% anonymity that some altcoins are currently enjoying?

Does it really take months of work to make Bitcoin 100% anonymous?

7 Transactions a second, another issue that shouldn't be an issue. It's simply not enough for the future. Why wait until 2016 for a hard fork?

Let's hard fork this shit and send these make-believe pretend shitcoins to their graves where they belong. Altcoins are a cancer.

All the VC capital that has been invested into Bitcoin was invested on the premise that it is a public ledger.

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yeah you're right,

i think that the devs should act now to fork bitcoin and fix its problems before the mass adoption of it comes.

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