Topic: 'Hard' lessons COINABUL (Read 1259 times)
Also I got an email this week that my coins were mailed. Will post again upon delivery. It took a while and without any reply from their part you couldn't be sure of what's going on. Probably poor business management but not scam as it seems. Will withhold final judgement till delivery.
As a followup, the coin ordered from Coinabul on March 27 was shipped FedEx 2 day on April 17 arriving April 19. This took numerous unanswered calls and a few emails with an "assistant", but it is done. Whew. Still looking for a more efficient and trustworthy gold coin sales company that takes bitcoin.
Also a noob at bitcoin got fooled with publicity generated about coinabull and spent there 1.83 at the high rates of bitcoin in early April where it was about 700 euro never got my coins nor a refund or answer to my e-mails.
You pay a premium for a coin. I just looked at the price for the coin you list on Ebay and at Coinabul. The premium I see is about $50, not $200. The premium is reasonable to me because they are a vendor who delivers and I am risk averse. My primary complaint is that they do not ship as advertised and are slow to respond to inquiries. My suggestion to them would be to ship as advertised, cut their product list to their top items, and maintain some inventory. My guess is that their volume doesn't support better pricing and that they do not maintain an inventory.
My primary complaint is that they are NOT a vendor who delivers. I ordered 4 silver eagles from them and paid the agreed upon price, even with their hefty premium. A week later, I received an email that, due to technical difficulties, they could not cash out of the BTC in time and they lost value, so they were "offering" to send me 3 silver eagles instead. They charged me in BTC, I paid in BTC. The fact that they did not convert to USD at a good time is not my problem. Any reputable company would honor their sale, but not Coinabul.
For a risk averse person, you are taking a huge one dealing with Coinabul. Read the other forums, there are many people that have had the same, or worse experiences with them.
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You pay a premium for a coin. I just looked at the price for the coin you list on Ebay and at Coinabul. The premium I see is about $50, not $200. The premium is reasonable to me because they are a vendor who delivers and I am risk averse. My primary complaint is that they do not ship as advertised and are slow to respond to inquiries. My suggestion to them would be to ship as advertised, cut their product list to their top items, and maintain some inventory. My guess is that their volume doesn't support better pricing and that they do not maintain an inventory.
There is a big gap between the spot price of gold and what they are selling it for. They need to have their prices float and better approximate FMV. For example,
http://coinabul.com/index.php/american-eagle-gold-bullion.html
costs 12.84, which is $1,540USD, almost a $200 premium from current spot prices.
http://coinabul.com/index.php/american-eagle-gold-bullion.html
costs 12.84, which is $1,540USD, almost a $200 premium from current spot prices.
My experience with Coinabul is that if you call one of the phone numbers on your invoice you should get through or Jay will call back. I have only had some luck emailing jon (not sure if he is still there) or jay directly, the general email address doesn't seem to be monitored. Their order system allows you to select standard or overnight insured. I have always selected overnight insured but the shipping method has never been overnight. I wasn't concerned with speed, only insured. Initially, this caused me quite a bit of undue concern when they said the ordered shipped and it took a week to arrive. Also, I sometimes received a shipping notice almost immediately when the order was actually only ordered.
Overall, they run a pretty loose business and what they promise is not what they deliver but their product does eventually arrive. It appears to me that they try to appear bigger than they are and run this business out of a business incubation service at a college. My guess is that they are technical guys that don't understand customer service. Hopefully, they will start to understand that they need to deliver what they promise.
Overall, they run a pretty loose business and what they promise is not what they deliver but their product does eventually arrive. It appears to me that they try to appear bigger than they are and run this business out of a business incubation service at a college. My guess is that they are technical guys that don't understand customer service. Hopefully, they will start to understand that they need to deliver what they promise.
I'm willing to setup a website accepting BTC if I can find a reliable dropshipper. Any input on this?
I have already done the same thing, except instead of drop shipping I have the products in my inventory. I am going to announce it once I am out of newbie jail.
Yep. Just noticed your thread mate. I'm sending you a PM. We gotta chat.
I'm willing to setup a website accepting BTC if I can find a reliable dropshipper. Any input on this?
I have already done the same thing, except instead of drop shipping I have the products in my inventory. I am going to announce it once I am out of newbie jail.
I'm willing to setup a website accepting BTC if I can find a reliable dropshipper. Any input on this?
When I researched bitcoin bullion dealers I was not able to find a good choice.
Anyone?
I also want to get some info about what's the fastest way to conatct with them.
Wishing I read the forums before ordering from Coinabul today. I only ordered 4 silver eagles, but it was when BTC was at $250. I promptly paid and sent the bitcoins. After a couple of hours, everything is fully confirmed as being sent in my wallet, but the order status is "processing" on their end.
Calls go to voicemail
Emails go unanswered
Contacts through their contact page go unanswered
Does anyone have any recent experience getting in touch with them?
Calls go to voicemail
Emails go unanswered
Contacts through their contact page go unanswered
Does anyone have any recent experience getting in touch with them?
Not to be mr doom'n'gloom but does anyone know if their product is coming from
a reputable mint or if anyone has tested to make sure it's not just plated ? I considered
ordering from them before but I don't see a way of verifying that what their selling isn't
just plated tungsten .
a reputable mint or if anyone has tested to make sure it's not just plated ? I considered
ordering from them before but I don't see a way of verifying that what their selling isn't
just plated tungsten .
bitcoin really needs established escrow services to take off
Satoshi Nakamoto mentioned this in his white paper if you recall
Satoshi Nakamoto mentioned this in his white paper if you recall
This is good to read... I was considering ordering from them.
What through me off was that they were collecting billing information. Um, yeah, you don't need that with bitcoins. (Though obviously they'd need a shipping address.)
I'll definitely hold off, and it will be interesting to see if I_Wanna_Ride gets his gold.
PS - Has anyone tried ordering bullion from Norway? They have 0 taxes and low fees, but I don't know of any Norwegian bullion dealer that accepts BTC yet...
What through me off was that they were collecting billing information. Um, yeah, you don't need that with bitcoins. (Though obviously they'd need a shipping address.)
I'll definitely hold off, and it will be interesting to see if I_Wanna_Ride gets his gold.
PS - Has anyone tried ordering bullion from Norway? They have 0 taxes and low fees, but I don't know of any Norwegian bullion dealer that accepts BTC yet...
I ordered from Coinabul back in March. It took them 3 weeks from the moment I paid to the product arriving and I live in Canada but there was no communication from them during the whole time. Then I checked on this forum about the guy who lost 81btc because of Coinabul, it got my worried. I emailed them 3 times no answer. The last time I emailed directly at [email protected] (the person who quit, if I recall) he answered me the day that I received them. The coins I received were in good condition, came in individual folded plastic protector.
Overall, I would not order from them again because of their handling/customer support.
Overall, I would not order from them again because of their handling/customer support.
That's good news but yeh they should focus on good customer support
I ordered from Coinabul back in March. It took them 3 weeks from the moment I paid to the product arriving and I live in Canada but there was no communication from them during the whole time. Then I checked on this forum about the guy who lost 81btc because of Coinabul, it got my worried. I emailed them 3 times no answer. The last time I emailed directly at [email protected] (the person who quit, if I recall) he answered me the day that I received them. The coins I received were in good condition, came in individual folded plastic protector.
Overall, I would not order from them again because of their handling/customer support.
Overall, I would not order from them again because of their handling/customer support.
Follow up. After numerous calls, got email response from Coinabul from "Alessandra" who states she has just been hired to help "clean up" mess after losing one employee. Swears all is well and my coin will be shipped. Still waiting. Will report back if it shows up.
Bitcoin-Central was down several days, back up one and a half days and down today. During the brief up, they did transfer some bitcoins for me, more than some members were stating on another thread ripping them and "davout". Honestly, to date, they have treated me right there.
Bitcoin-Central was down several days, back up one and a half days and down today. During the brief up, they did transfer some bitcoins for me, more than some members were stating on another thread ripping them and "davout". Honestly, to date, they have treated me right there.
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