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Topic: Has any of Satoshi's suspected wallets been used?? (Read 2382 times)

sr. member
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Y'all seem to be ignoring the possibility that Satoshi does not give a crap about personal wealth.

This is always overlooked.

Another factor could be that he doesn't require wealth because he already has plenty.

Secondly, those major wallets are just that and have been followed since the early days. No one knows whether or not he utilized pools when they were first implemented out of curiosity and had funds from that.
This is a possibility or... I just thought of something that Satoshi write back in 2010. He said literally that he planned on creating a free bitcoin generator. When it gets too hard for mortals to generate 50 BTC, new users could get some coins to play with right away. Maybe he really has bitcoin generator?
And that is the reason he doesn't care much about spending bitcoin now.
He probably never imagined that coins would be at the price they are at now.
legendary
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I doubt he is dead, and I also doubt he has lost his keys... He will probably do something spectacular with his stash when time comes.

i doubt he is one person only, probably a a group of coders, so the death questions is out of the equation

they could have divided the total amount in multiple wallet one for each coder or something
legendary
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How would anyone know, we cannot see his wallets.
newbie
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everyone is kinda wondering about that where he is what hes doing .. i guess he will come out whenever hes ready or may be he never will there could be hundred reason behind his silence .... orrr he could be dead
sr. member
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Gone......
Y'all seem to be ignoring the possibility that Satoshi does not give a crap about personal wealth.

This is always overlooked.

Another factor could be that he doesn't require wealth because he already has plenty.

Secondly, those major wallets are just that and have been followed since the early days. No one knows whether or not he utilized pools when they were first implemented out of curiosity and had funds from that.
This is a possibility or... I just thought of something that Satoshi write back in 2010. He said literally that he planned on creating a free bitcoin generator. When it gets too hard for mortals to generate 50 BTC, new users could get some coins to play with right away. Maybe he really has bitcoin generator?
And that is the reason he doesn't care much about spending bitcoin now.
He probably never imagined that coins would be at the price they are at now.

He could never have knew they would get to this price but that does not mean he would just leave them all and do nothing does it?

A ninja generator pumping out all the free coins he will ever need that is why he has not returned to the wallets, i think the idea about it being to destroy the mighty china is the best idea so far.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht

He probably never imagined that coins would be at the price they are at now.


I'm sure it was regarded as a possibility. There's no point in designing a monetary system from scratch without taking into account scaling it were it go beyond a few obscure mailing lists.

In retrospect, the prime unit should've been mbtc or lower from minute one. Human psychology when it comes to units is predictable and it should've been accounted for.
legendary
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★Nitrogensports.eu★
Y'all seem to be ignoring the possibility that Satoshi does not give a crap about personal wealth.

This is always overlooked.

Another factor could be that he doesn't require wealth because he already has plenty.

Secondly, those major wallets are just that and have been followed since the early days. No one knows whether or not he utilized pools when they were first implemented out of curiosity and had funds from that.
This is a possibility or... I just thought of something that Satoshi write back in 2010. He said literally that he planned on creating a free bitcoin generator. When it gets too hard for mortals to generate 50 BTC, new users could get some coins to play with right away. Maybe he really has bitcoin generator?
And that is the reason he doesn't care much about spending bitcoin now.
sr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 250
Y'all seem to be ignoring the possibility that Satoshi does not give a crap about personal wealth.
I said this as one of my possibilities he has deleted them as he cares more about the development and advancement of bitcoin over personal wealth and I think this holds more water than any theory since he never cashed a single coin during the 1000$ phase making him worth a BILLION usd.

If he started moving large numbers of coins from addresses we are certain belong to him it would create panic. Increasing numbers of people would start panic selling as he moved increasing numbers of coins. Th price would probably crash to double/single digits if he moved a million coins. He would never be able to sell his whole stash for a billion USD.
newbie
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Probably. We would never know he probably has more than 5000+ addys
hero member
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Y'all seem to be ignoring the possibility that Satoshi does not give a crap about personal wealth.
Im sure he does, but he is the creator of Bitcoin: Who else is going to trust Bitcoin more than him? Thats why he is holding forever. It makes no sense to sell your coins.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Y'all seem to be ignoring the possibility that Satoshi does not give a crap about personal wealth.

This is always overlooked.

Another factor could be that he doesn't require wealth because he already has plenty.

Secondly, those major wallets are just that and have been followed since the early days. No one knows whether or not he utilized pools when they were first implemented out of curiosity and had funds from that.
legendary
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Merit: 1132
Y'all seem to be ignoring the possibility that Satoshi does not give a crap about personal wealth.
legendary
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As I recall, the whole millions of BTC mined in the beggining stay where they are all the time.

and i bet they will never move.
But this sounds so strange.
Why on Earth keeping them for so long?
We could argue that:
a) he(them) lost the keys;
b) he (them) is (are) super rich already and then there's no need for that money;
c) just waiting
d) it's a big conspiracy

Is there something more?

I mean for me BTC idea is awesome, one of the best thing the internet era brought us so far.
But seing what are we doing with it I'm not that sure we fully understood the point of it.

Or maybe it's really too early.

We'll see.
newbie
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mine no.. still going safety and strong
legendary
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I still think Satoshi lost the private keys for those coins and he is currently busy inventing a NEW way to solve the public/private key pairing to undone the monster he created.  Shocked

I don't think he lost access to his wallets. He is educated and wise enough to not lose anything that has the potential to be worth a good bit of money.

Using the coins is quite difficult to do without being noticed, unless he has other wallets that no one can link to Satoshi.

One thing is sure, once the coins that we think belong to Satoshi start to move it may cause a good bit of drama  Cheesy
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
As I recall, the whole millions of BTC mined in the beggining stay where they are all the time.

and i bet they will never move.
legendary
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The moment when Satoshi use those coins, the "Pre-mine" accusations will fly around like crazy amongst the Bitcoin haters/Shills.

The NSA will have a field day with it and the circus will start.  Grin Grin Grin

In those days after Satoshi heard about Gavin being approached by the CIA .....there were no mixer services...so the coins had to stay where they were.

I still think Satoshi lost the private keys for those coins and he is currently busy inventing a NEW way to solve the public/private key pairing to undone the monster he created.  Shocked
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
As I recall, the whole millions of BTC mined in the beggining stay where they are all the time.

Its kinda crazy.. all that money but i guess hes here under a different name and with 100 other wallets, not needing to touch the millions that will support his family for generations Smiley
He may be dead or he may have deleted the keys to the wallets.

If hes dead at least he will go doen in history...

If he lost his keys then maybe he killed himself!!!

This is a very unlikely scenario, he after all created it and was more than aware what to do and what not to do,. It is intriguing though that his wallets have remained untouched for all this time that does make you wonder is he alive  Cry

Unless he was already rich beyond belief them Bitcoin would have been touched maybe not masses of them but enough to buy his first/second home without mortgage etc i can't see him just watching them lol

Either way i hope where ever he is he is ok and shows his face before creating bitcoin 2  Grin   
Not exactly, he could have been more concerned about changing the future than money, but it is very rare to find someone who essentially could have been a billionaire put advancement in front of that.

He was concerned about bringing the world this technology i have read some of his posts but that does not mean he would not use and spend some of his inventions profits, he put all the work into it so unless he was already filthy rich he would defiantly spend some imho.

Everyone is different though aren’t they but it does seem very suspicious that they are untouched, he is either saving but for what? He is dead, or he lost the keys.

To me only chance it is 1 or 2 please jump in if you have other opinions....

It will never move. The NSA doesn't need the money.
LOL pretty sure Satoshi isn't the NSA, btw the last anyone heard of satoshi (not counting Dorian comment) is when Gavin said he was going to talk to the CIA. Pretty sure Satoshi wouldn't have been concerned if he was the NSA.

He was afraid to go to the CIA with Gavin because he didn't want to be recognized and blow his cover. The NSA created the blockchain so they could watch the flow of illegal merchandise worldwide. They run the exchanges in the U.S. too. They also have a secret plot to destroy the Chinese economy using Bitcoin. As soon as the Chinese transfer most of their wealth into Bitcoin the NSA will crash the price using Satoshi's coin reserve. The invasion of China has already started with the opening of dozens of Walmart's and Sam's Clubs all over the country. Just you wait my precious, you'll see!

This made me laugh, nice story bro and it actually makes more sense than the 3 options i thought about. This is why china tried to ban it straight away but how did they no the master plan?


China knew there was a plan to use Bitcoin against them because Bitcoin grew from the seed of an idea encoded in the Kush handed out at a free concert by the NSA in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. The Chinese Embassy on Geary Blvd in SF captured Ross Ulbricht in a library a couple of years before the FED captured him in the same library. Ross couldn't take the San Francisco steamed pork bun/fried rice torture for very long so he revealed the secret plan of the NSA to bring China to her knees. Ross knew about the plan because he was always an agent of the NSA on loan from the CIA. His trial was a show to remove him from the public eye. As soon as the media attention dies down Ross will be released and sent to China where he will be an assistant manager at one of the Super Walmart staging sites for the upcoming invasion.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
As I recall, the whole millions of BTC mined in the beggining stay where they are all the time.

Its kinda crazy.. all that money but i guess hes here under a different name and with 100 other wallets, not needing to touch the millions that will support his family for generations Smiley
He may be dead or he may have deleted the keys to the wallets.

If hes dead at least he will go doen in history...

If he lost his keys then maybe he killed himself!!!

This is a very unlikely scenario, he after all created it and was more than aware what to do and what not to do,. It is intriguing though that his wallets have remained untouched for all this time that does make you wonder is he alive  Cry

Unless he was already rich beyond belief them Bitcoin would have been touched maybe not masses of them but enough to buy his first/second home without mortgage etc i can't see him just watching them lol

Either way i hope where ever he is he is ok and shows his face before creating bitcoin 2  Grin   
Not exactly, he could have been more concerned about changing the future than money, but it is very rare to find someone who essentially could have been a billionaire put advancement in front of that.

He was concerned about bringing the world this technology i have read some of his posts but that does not mean he would not use and spend some of his inventions profits, he put all the work into it so unless he was already filthy rich he would defiantly spend some imho.

Everyone is different though aren’t they but it does seem very suspicious that they are untouched, he is either saving but for what? He is dead, or he lost the keys.

To me only chance it is 1 or 2 please jump in if you have other opinions....

It will never move. The NSA doesn't need the money.
LOL pretty sure Satoshi isn't the NSA, btw the last anyone heard of satoshi (not counting Dorian comment) is when Gavin said he was going to talk to the CIA. Pretty sure Satoshi wouldn't have been concerned if he was the NSA.

He was afraid to go to the CIA with Gavin because he didn't want to be recognized and blow his cover. The NSA created the blockchain so they could watch the flow of illegal merchandise worldwide. They run the exchanges in the U.S. too. They also have a secret plot to destroy the Chinese economy using Bitcoin. As soon as the Chinese transfer most of their wealth into Bitcoin the NSA will crash the price using Satoshi's coin reserve. The invasion of China has already started with the opening of dozens of Walmart's and Sam's Clubs all over the country. Just you wait my precious, you'll see!

This made me laugh, nice story bro and it actually makes more sense than the 3 options i thought about. This is why china tried to ban it straight away but how did they no the master plan?

 
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
It will never move. The NSA doesn't need the money.
LOL pretty sure Satoshi isn't the NSA, btw the last anyone heard of satoshi (not counting Dorian comment) is when Gavin said he was going to talk to the CIA. Pretty sure Satoshi wouldn't have been concerned if he was the NSA.

He was afraid to go to the CIA with Gavin because he didn't want to be recognized and blow his cover. The NSA created the blockchain so they could watch the flow of illegal merchandise worldwide. They run the exchanges in the U.S. too. They also have a secret plot to destroy the Chinese economy using Bitcoin. As soon as the Chinese transfer most of their wealth into Bitcoin the NSA will crash the price using Satoshi's coin reserve. The invasion of China has already started with the opening of dozens of Walmart's and Sam's Clubs all over the country. Just you wait my precious, you'll see!
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