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Data centres have their place for this sort of thing, yes it would be nice idea if they could be rack mounted. Data centers provide, a near perfect environment as a clean room with high energy usage being normal, with bonus of security, both on the web and physically.

You forgot one of the most important things, cooling.

Kinda goes a long with being a near perfect environment as a clean room. Yes cooling is very important.
sr. member
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Yep, there are a few large data-centers.  Not a plethora of small data centers like there once were.

Stop talking. You have no idea what you are talking about.

We are seeing datacenters of all sizes popping up. Lots of smaller DCs supporting regional areas. As technology grows it's spreading out and the infrastructure has to follow.
hero member
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ASICMINER

Exactly... they built their own.  They didn't buy avalons, or butterflys, or bASICS or gxminers (cough).
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newbie
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Lately I have been trying to get my CCENT Cisco cert right now.

A idea recently came to me.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever considered building rack mounted ASIC?

That's kind of like building a rack mount for ipads or iphones or notebooks.  Server rooms are dying, like dinosaurs.

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hero member
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That's kind of like building a rack mount for ipads or iphones or notebooks.  Server rooms are dying, like dinosaurs.

You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about because datacentres are still being built and demand continues to grow. To say that server rooms are dying is like saying the internet is dying. Because the internet is built upon a foundation of datacenters. Without datacenters there is no internet.

No matter how powerful an iphone gets or how fast the wireless connection is, we are always going to need server rooms.


Yep, there are a few large data-centers.  Not a plethora of small data centers like there once were.

hero member
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You don't know anything about computers.

Ask your self this, what happens when instead of having mining farms consisting of 100 GPU's, you have have 100 Avalons?

Have you ever considered how difficult it would be,to manage those units?

Do you even know what a KVM  switch is?

Yes I'm an idiot because I don't see the need for commercially available rack mounted asics.  I didn't realize I speaking to a Walton or Eric Schmidt.  Were you intending to buy more than one avalon?  Anybody spending $1.7 million US to mine bitcoin is not going to be buying someone else's hardware.  And you don't need a KVM f-nut, you need a usb hub for your army of asics.  You're so 1990.
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Data centres have their place for this sort of thing, yes it would be nice idea if they could be rack mounted. Data centers provide, a near perfect environment as a clean room with high energy usage being normal, with bonus of security, both on the web and physically.

You forgot one of the most important things, cooling.
legendary
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IIRC, the Reclaimer ASIC was supposed to be 80GH/s and rackmountable, but it ended up getting canceled.

And yes, Viceroy is Hil-arious!
sr. member
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Data centres have their place for this sort of thing, yes it would be nice idea if they could be rack mounted. Data centers provide, a near perfect environment as a clean room with high energy usage being normal, with bonus of security, both on the web and physically.

Rack mounted cases on the whole are more expensive and heavier than what they need to be so keeping costs to a min, the developers of various versions of ASIC apparently didn't see it as a worthwhile cost to add.
They know a lot of their customers will just be keeping them at home, the few who do end up buying a lot of them to put in data centers could remove the parts and assemble them back into a standard 3u Rack case if they wanted. Not sure if it be classed as easy, but possible.

I don't see this as a must or a needed thing for ASIC developers to consider doing, the big point is to have more ASIC developers actually existing in the first place. However I'm sure you can try throwing this suggestion at the guys behind ASICMiner, they are going to be selling to the masses, rather than completely self-mining their ASIC's they built soon. There is also Enterpoint who are considering making a Cairnsmore 2, which is going to be a pretty powerful ASIC, so tbh keeping it at home might not even be realistic power usage wise.

But Personally if I wanted to rackmount an ASIC, I'd strip the parts out of what ever case it came in and see how many I could fit into a 3u case I bought myself.
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Gerald Davis
That's kind of like building a rack mount for ipads or iphones or notebooks.  Server rooms are dying, like dinosaurs.

LOLZ.  Funniest (unintentional) comment of the day.  PCs might be dying but when your ipad connects to a web app where do you think it is connecting to ... A DATACENTER.
Datacenter square footing is growing at 10% to 20% a year and shows no signs of slowing.  The datacenters being built now are unimaginably large compared to just years ago.  

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And can you imagine the cost...   a 42u rack could hold 14 Avalons and at 99BTC that's a quarter million dollar rack you got there. 

Which would be a good reason to put that in a high security locked cage at a top teir, bonded and insured data center right?  $250K in computing equipment in class A building or $250K in computing equipment running in my garage... hmm that is a hard one (and this is coming from the guy who at one time DID have $20K of GPU rigs running in his garage).



To the OP the Avalon ASIC could be easily moved to a 3U (maybe 4U) server case and rack mounted.  Strange Avalon team didn't offer this as an option from day 1.  My guess is they are in a rush to just get some product out the door.  Honestly what makes ASICs special is the ASICs.  If Avalon sold just the modules I would buy those and rack mount them myself.
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That's kind of like building a rack mount for ipads or iphones or notebooks.  Server rooms are dying, like dinosaurs.

You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about because datacentres are still being built and demand continues to grow. To say that server rooms are dying is like saying the internet is dying. Because the internet is built upon a foundation of datacenters. Without datacenters there is no internet.

No matter how powerful an iphone gets or how fast the wireless connection is, we are always going to need server rooms.
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Lately I have been trying to get my CCENT Cisco cert right now.

A idea recently came to me.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever considered building rack mounted ASIC?

That's kind of like building a rack mount for ipads or iphones or notebooks.  Server rooms are dying, like dinosaurs.

Racks make sense when the computer is big or you need a room full of them.  As computers get smaller few have the need for a server room.  An ASIC is about the size of a coffee mug.  Compare that to my several full size computer cases and then realize the ASIC is about 100 times faster than all my machines combined. 

The first computer (ENIAC) was so big you could park a school bus inside the computer.  The computer modules lined the walls of a lab at 33rd and Walnut in Philadelphia.  It was set up kind of like a U shape.  You could park a school bus inside the U.  Today you have more computing power on your cell phone.  There is little need for rack mounted asics.  And can you imagine the cost...   a 42u rack could hold 14 Avalons and at 99BTC that's a quarter million dollar rack you got there. 

You need more than one of those?

 Grin


You don't know anything about computers.

Ask your self this, what happens when instead of having mining farms consisting of 100 GPU's, you have have 100 Avalons?

Have you ever considered how difficult it would be,to manage those units?

Do you even know what a KVM  switch is?
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 501
Lately I have been trying to get my CCENT Cisco cert right now.

A idea recently came to me.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever considered building rack mounted ASIC?

That's kind of like building a rack mount for ipads or iphones or notebooks.  Server rooms are dying, like dinosaurs.

Racks make sense when the computer is big or you need a room full of them.  As computers get smaller few have the need for a server room.  An ASIC is about the size of a coffee mug.  Compare that to my several full size computer cases and then realize the ASIC is about 100 times faster than all my machines combined. 

The first computer (ENIAC) was so big you could park a school bus inside the computer.  The computer modules lined the walls of a lab at 33rd and Walnut in Philadelphia.  It was set up kind of like a U shape.  You could park a school bus inside the U.  Today you have more computing power on your cell phone.  There is little need for rack mounted asics.  And can you imagine the cost...   a 42u rack could hold 14 Avalons and at 99BTC that's a quarter million dollar rack you got there. 

You need more than one of those?

 Grin
sr. member
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#SWGT PRE-SALE IS LIVE
Lately I have been trying to get my CCENT Cisco cert right now.

A idea recently came to me.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever considered building rack mounted ASIC?
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