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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.
The only way anyone loses money is by shorting or not buying into the market in the current bull run!
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Yes, but exiting to what? If you're exiting to BTC then you're not exiting at all. All you're doing is changing token. If you're exiting to fiat then that's a different matter.

anything that's a stable respite. i'd be going for assets or dollars. and when it craters you can jump back in again. that depends on whether you believe the crater is coming and it'll recover from it. i have a small feeling that none of the alts, and quite possibly btc too won't be the ones that actually get established in the world at large.

it's a shaky comparison, but virtually nothing survived the dotcom bubble implosion. what did survive was the idea. and it came back a whole lot better.

Exactly.  I have exactly the same feeling as in the end of the 90ies.  Same delusional promises, same "in the future we will".... without anything much to show for, same money pooring in, "investing" at losses,...  I remember all the talk of the "new economy". 

Crypto has not much real world usage that is not related to crypto itself to show for.  Yes, potentially innovative ideas, yes.  But in practice, nothing that really gets used for real.  Ok, some retailers accept bitcoin, and they say that it gives them a 1% increase in their business, at best.  But essentially, the only real world usage of the stuff is dark markets.

That said, there's one thing that crypto became, and may very well stay: an ever increasing collection of virtual financial assets, on which "investors" can play in almost infinite combinations, in order to try to get money out of the pockets of their peers and in theirs.   The derivatives market does the same, but is bound by some underlying, which essentially serves as the 'random number generator' of the game, to determine who wins and who loses.  Crypto can do the same, but without underlying.  As such, crypto could take a significant place in the financial sector, to replace or to complete, the portfolio of big financial players gambling against one another, this time without an underlying, and with the market of the gambling token itself as the random generator indicating the winners and losers.   There's 10 times the world GDP in the derivatives market, so there's enough room for growth of the market cap in crypto as this ever-growing basket of gamble tokens where in the end, nobody knows what will rise and what will fall 10 seconds later.

However, for that to become successful, there cannot be a systematic order, nor a steady growth of coins: coins have to rise from low to very high one day, to drop to oblivion the next day, in totally unpredictable sequences for this market to become a truly noisy financial gambler's game.  Maybe this is the "disorder" we are witnessing: the transition from an ordered "growth" of individual coins, into a random jump fest of coins coming up from deep below, and others dumped from high to deep down again.
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

..if only you were involved with ETH or XMR.... Wink
HODL my friend, eventually our time will come

I predict a massive quick rise for XMR very soon up to about $50-$60. Nothing scientific, just the movement of the market these days (I predicted LTC getting to $15-$20 when it was at $4 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18047677 and the rise of DOGE .. sort of.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18042830). It's like a recurring pattern. I hold no XMR but I've seriously been considering it over the last few days. It's taken all my willpower not to get into it.

I've been thinking that this could actually be some massive players pumping the entire crypto market (as you say $30bn is actually a tiny market). What will happen if/when those brutes take THEIR profit and exit the market?? Market may crash back to $10bn-$15bn. But that's just all speculation eh.
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Yes, but exiting to what? If you're exiting to BTC then you're not exiting at all. All you're doing is changing token. If you're exiting to fiat then that's a different matter.

anything that's a stable respite. i'd be going for assets or dollars. and when it craters you can jump back in again. that depends on whether you believe the crater is coming and it'll recover from it. i have a small feeling that none of the alts, and quite possibly btc too won't be the ones that actually get established in the world at large.

it's a shaky comparison, but virtually nothing survived the dotcom bubble implosion. what did survive was the idea. and it came back a whole lot better.
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I really like your mindset. Like, I know if you cash the coins, you can live a good life for a while but you are still keeping them in wallets. Till the market breaks the $100Bn barrier.

I will go for long-term investment.

Thanks. I tried the day-trading in the beginning but I always felt I exited too soon (there's always another rise round the corner), then 2 months later I would regret exiting at all when I've missed the rise of the crypto I just dropped. If I'd kept it up I wouldn't have what I have now.

The number of times I bought at the top..... and regretted it.

But... the top I was regretting then, now seems like an amazing price.

Too much emotion and tears/fury/anticipation/anger. I had to run from it.
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

..if only you were involved with ETH or XMR.... Wink
HODL my friend, eventually our time will come
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Indeed, it is really hard to lose money with this kind of market. Cheesy

I realizing profits now, exiting positions in some altcoins.

yep. that's the one. too many people crowing over paper profits. very little of them will ever be realised.


Yes, but exiting to what? If you're exiting to BTC then you're not exiting at all. All you're doing is changing token. If you're exiting to fiat then that's a different matter.
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

..if only you were involved with ETH or XMR.... Wink
You could say that about so many cryptos. There are cryptos between $50m-$100m market cap that I got into when their marketcap was under $1m.

The only thing is that I've never cashed out. I don't want the taxman/police/government chasing me! How weird is that. I'm waiting for mainstream acceptance before attempting any form of bag-opening. Crypto is a very long term investment for me. It's all just numbers right now (for me). If I actually cashed out now it would change my life. But I can wait.

There's still a very long way to go. It's very possible that crypto marketcap surpasses $100bn this year at this rate. ATH at this time might attract more fund managers (the brave ones!).

Well said.

I kept exchanging my bitcoins to FIAT all the time because I was making money by selling stuff with Bitcoin but nowadays I regret it.

3 months ago I bought some ETH but sold it for some reason. If I would kept it they would worth thousands right now but thanks to my mistake, now I understand things better. Like should I kept my money on Bitcoin or ALTs.

I think you have to decide what sort of investor you're going to be and stick to it. If you're day-trading then you have to be happy with any profit you make and not think of long term rises (which is more than likely accounted for in the profit you're making daily anyways). If you're a long term investor then forget about getting into pump and dump.

Just remember that the grass can always seem greener on the other side!

I really like your mindset. Like, I know if you cash the coins, you can live a good life for a while but you are still keeping them in wallets. Till the market breaks the $100Bn barrier.

I will go for long-term investment.
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I haven't made any profit because I traded all my coins for USD. I know screw me right? When the market settles I'll hop back in. I'd hate to hop back in now and it drop right back down(would be my luck). Regardless I'm sure over time everyone that has money invested into crypto will profit if they are patient. Patience is key to making money on any forex and alt trading.
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Indeed, it is really hard to lose money with this kind of market. Cheesy

I realizing profits now, exiting positions in some altcoins.

yep. that's the one. too many people crowing over paper profits. very little of them will ever be realised.

at the same time there may well be some type of eternal september when it comes to crypto. i seriously doubt that it's now but one day it'll happen.

every new person who comes on board changes the market a little. i'm really interested to see where it heads because i think it's gonna surprise the old guard.
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@bathrobehero: Yes I'm just a dumb oversimplifier.  I did NOT say that bitcoin is a lousy investment,  because it's not.   As a currency it is lousy.  What I got paid for the bitdouble signature campaign on Wednesday is still stuck in the blockchain.  Tell me that's a good property of a currency.   But at least I can't spend it!  I might actually make some money.
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.


I am sure that many daytraders did not make any profit but a loss.  One thing is sure. A 2014 will repeat.  Maybe 2015 was even more depressive altho was not that much losses back then. So all lets enjoy while it lasts.
We posted at the same time Cheesy
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

..if only you were involved with ETH or XMR.... Wink
You could say that about so many cryptos. There are cryptos between $50m-$100m market cap that I got into when their marketcap was under $1m.

The only thing is that I've never cashed out. I don't want the taxman/police/government chasing me! How weird is that. I'm waiting for mainstream acceptance before attempting any form of bag-opening. Crypto is a very long term investment for me. It's all just numbers right now (for me). If I actually cashed out now it would change my life. But I can wait.

There's still a very long way to go. It's very possible that crypto marketcap surpasses $100bn this year at this rate. ATH at this time might attract more fund managers (the brave ones!).

Well said.

I kept exchanging my bitcoins to FIAT all the time because I was making money by selling stuff with Bitcoin but nowadays I regret it.

3 months ago I bought some ETH but sold it for some reason. If I would kept it they would worth thousands right now but thanks to my mistake, now I understand things better. Like should I kept my money on Bitcoin or ALTs.

I think you have to decide what sort of investor you're going to be and stick to it. If you're day-trading then you have to be happy with any profit you make and not think of long term rises (which is more than likely accounted for in the profit you're making daily anyways). If you're a long term investor then forget about getting into pump and dump.

Just remember that the grass can always seem greener on the other side!
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.


I am sure that many daytraders did not make any profit but a loss.  One thing is sure. A 2014 will repeat.  Maybe 2015 was even more depressive altho was not that much losses back then. So all lets enjoy while it lasts.
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

..if only you were involved with ETH or XMR.... Wink
You could say that about so many cryptos. There are cryptos between $50m-$100m market cap that I got into when their marketcap was under $1m.

The only thing is that I've never cashed out. I don't want the taxman/police/government chasing me! How weird is that. I'm waiting for mainstream acceptance before attempting any form of bag-opening. Crypto is a very long term investment for me. It's all just numbers right now (for me). If I actually cashed out now it would change my life. But I can wait.

There's still a very long way to go. It's very possible that crypto marketcap surpasses $100bn this year at this rate. ATH at this time might attract more fund managers (the brave ones!).

Well said.

I kept exchanging my bitcoins to FIAT all the time because I was making money by selling stuff with Bitcoin but nowadays I regret it.

3 months ago I bought some ETH but sold it for some reason. If I would kept it they would worth thousands right now but I'm glad I made that mistake.

I learned why should I invest and keep the coins for a long time. This is why I said "well said" in the first place. I understand what you said very well and I will also follow the same mindset.
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

..if only you were involved with ETH or XMR.... Wink
You could say that about so many cryptos. There are cryptos between $50m-$100m market cap that I got into when their marketcap was under $1m.

The only thing is that I've never cashed out. I don't want the taxman/police/government chasing me! How weird is that. I'm waiting for mainstream acceptance before attempting any form of bag-opening. Crypto is a very long term investment for me. It's all just numbers right now (for me). If I actually cashed out now it would change my life. But I can wait.

There's still a very long way to go. It's very possible that crypto marketcap surpasses $100bn this year at this rate. ATH at this time might attract more fund managers (the brave ones!).
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GAME, Pepecash, BitCrystals, TrumpCoin, Billary, Waves, Huntercoin, Rubies, Digicube, etc. etc. etc. So many coins have been good to me in this past year, it's phenomenal. Up next is Elastic (mainnet launch soon), MobileGO, Chimaera, and maybe the Back to Earth project. Not to mention Bitcoin has also soared. Hope this train continues on for a little while longer!
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I'm sure anyone that tried shorting got rekt, SDC fanboys also got rekt.  Beyond that I can't think of any way one could have lost money on these markets in the last month
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

yeah i made profit with this last crazy increase of all the alt, all went green, how can't you not profit from it? it's impossible lol they pumped every shit coin out there, even old coin that have very small marketcap and can be mined only with a single gpu, i also see that investors still like to pump x11 and family, which is plagued by asic, i recently bought some cheap altcoin, and some of them wnet easily x3 like atomcoin, there is definitely tons of money to be made here, someone i feel dirty like i'm legal scamming other investors or something
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My belly is full of profit. I have done nothing but hodl some alts (and of course BTC). All my losses are wiped out.

Has anyone NOT made profit during this bullish 18 month boost from $8bn to over $30bn total crypto market cap??

Some say it was always going to happen, but it's still astonishing to me.

Indeed, it is really hard to lose money with this kind of market. Cheesy

I realizing profits now, exiting positions in some altcoins.
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