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Topic: Has anyone received funds from bitcoinica recently? (Read 2735 times)

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
"Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late."
OK - exchanging to BTC and doing a BTC transfer worked.  Maybe not in minutes - but in about an hour it was on my MtGox account.

And you eat a lot of profits exchanging on bitcoinica.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
OK - exchanging to BTC and doing a BTC transfer worked.  Maybe not in minutes - but in about an hour it was on my MtGox account.

MtGox requires 6 confirmations... this should take an hour.
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
OK - exchanging to BTC and doing a BTC transfer worked.  Maybe not in minutes - but in about an hour it was on my MtGox account.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
"Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late."
I have a pending withdraw for MTGOXUSD that has been 2 days, thus far.  If I don't see something soon I may have to initiate a wire.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Well they took mine..
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
OK.  I have some BTC bought on leverage - plus the pending withdrawal.  Assuming that my marging should cover the BTC at the current price without leverage - how could I withdraw the BTC instead of USD?

Liquidate->Exchange Profits->Withdrawal

As for doing it without losing  a few percent, I don't think it's possible.
Hmm - but I would not be able to do that while there is a * at the buy button?

I've always been able to exchange my margin when the * is up.
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
OK.  I have some BTC bought on leverage - plus the pending withdrawal.  Assuming that my marging should cover the BTC at the current price without leverage - how could I withdraw the BTC instead of USD?

Liquidate->Exchange Profits->Withdrawal

As for doing it without losing  a few percent, I don't think it's possible.
Hmm - but I would not be able to do that while there is a * at the buy button?
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
(you could also reveal al transactions like MtGox - but this is just a side note)
My impression was that this would greatly increase the danger of squeezes, since anyone could calculate how much money a squeeze would cost them.

Trades data is not enough to calculate the zhoutong price (and it also does not need to be associated with any account id - just the price and amount).
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1080
Gerald Davis
The last few times I took profit I had to transfer out in BTC instead of USD.  Unfortunately Bitcoinica's fees for buying BTC with USD are outrageous.  Gotta pay to play.

Yeah I canceled my 4 day pending MtGox withdraw and got robbed on the conversion and then cashed out in BTC in 10 minutes.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
The last few times I took profit I had to transfer out in BTC instead of USD.  Unfortunately Bitcoinica's fees for buying BTC with USD are outrageous.  Gotta pay to play.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
OK.  I have some BTC bought on leverage - plus the pending withdrawal.  Assuming that my marging should cover the BTC at the current price without leverage - how could I withdraw the BTC instead of USD?

Liquidate->Exchange Profits->Withdrawal

As for doing it without losing  a few percent, I don't think it's possible.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 4775
diamond-handed zealot
(you could also reveal al transactions like MtGox - but this is just a side note)
My impression was that this would greatly increase the danger of squeezes, since anyone could calculate how much money a squeeze would cost them.

bingo
legendary
Activity: 960
Merit: 1028
Spurn wild goose chases. Seek that which endures.
(you could also reveal al transactions like MtGox - but this is just a side note)
My impression was that this would greatly increase the danger of squeezes, since anyone could calculate how much money a squeeze would cost them.
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
OK.  I have some BTC bought on leverage - plus the pending withdrawal.  Assuming that my marging should cover the BTC at the current price without leverage - how could I withdraw the BTC instead of USD?
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
Fair enough. But what of the OP's question, then? Is there any particular situation currently in play that's preventing payouts? Surely settled client USD aren't counted as part of the reserve...

Mt. Gox withdrawal limit is the only thing right now. Bitcoin withdrawals have always been fine.
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
look at it from Z's perspective

folks are screaming to be allowed to go long on margin

and screaming for instant access to their fiat

whats he supposed to poop USD out his ass??

I do not use his service, though the show is amusing, but there is no real indication I have seen that he is a bad actor or is ripping anyone off.

You play in the bucket shop and they get low on funds?  Cross your fingers and hope they do not fold up altogether.

I remember him claiming many times, in this forum, that bitcoinica is not a bucket shop, but yeah - why should I believe that?

If Bitcoinica is a bucket shop then you'll not see the asterisk and instead we let you buy whatever you want and then dump coins in the market to force liquidate you and pocket all your money.

This is not what it happened. So we are not a bucket shop.

There's no better way to prove it either. We have already disclosed the daily hedging volume.

That's nice (you could also reveal al transactions like MtGox - but this is just a side note).   The more important question is - what is the problem with withdrawals!?  Why you don't approve them?   Is that related to MtGox limits?  Or you have mixed client funds with company reserves?
legendary
Activity: 960
Merit: 1028
Spurn wild goose chases. Seek that which endures.
Fair enough. But what of the OP's question, then? Is there any particular situation currently in play that's preventing payouts? Surely settled client USD aren't counted as part of the reserve...
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
look at it from Z's perspective

folks are screaming to be allowed to go long on margin

and screaming for instant access to their fiat

whats he supposed to poop USD out his ass??

I do not use his service, though the show is amusing, but there is no real indication I have seen that he is a bad actor or is ripping anyone off.

You play in the bucket shop and they get low on funds?  Cross your fingers and hope they do not fold up altogether.

I remember him claiming many times, in this forum, that bitcoinica is not a bucket shop, but yeah - why should I believe that?

If Bitcoinica is a bucket shop then you'll not see the asterisk and instead we let you buy whatever you want and then dump coins in the market to force liquidate you and pocket all your money.

This is not what it happened. So we are not a bucket shop.

There's no better way to prove it either. We have already disclosed the daily hedging volume.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 4775
diamond-handed zealot
just to clarify, I do not use the term disparagingly

I believe there is a place in a free market for bitcoinica's services, I see no indication as yet that Z is operating counter to his client's interests...though that danger is always present

the simple fact that some orders are settled internally without any formal transactions in the underlying makes it a bucket shop under US law, which is fine with me, people are assumed to be adults and nation states and their antiquated legal structures are obsolete

it is a brave new world, all the warning labels and safety restraints have been removed, have fun, play at your own risk
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
look at it from Z's perspective

folks are screaming to be allowed to go long on margin

and screaming for instant access to their fiat

whats he supposed to poop USD out his ass??

I do not use his service, though the show is amusing, but there is no real indication I have seen that he is a bad actor or is ripping anyone off.

You play in the bucket shop and they get low on funds?  Cross your fingers and hope they do not fold up altogether.

I remember him claiming many times, in this forum, that bitcoinica is not a bucket shop, but yeah - why should I believe that?
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