Topic: Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time) - page 20. (Read 24252 times)

I just yesterday wanted to post something that we cannot predict what the next day will bring and that my consensus reached to the point, where nothing will happen. However this is big news in the crypto world. I would still like to see some solid proof and maybe his personal approach to this subject. I will definitely keep an eye out on this subject.

The last satoshi (the old man) was a pretty funny hoax. However this will most likely escalate to a much bigger scale. Buy all the coins before they run out guys.

If it is a hoax, it is a bloody good one. The Satoshi millions in the trust also explains why it has not moved. I just wonder, if this is true, who holds the private key. Could it be that we have two Satoshi's? Wright & Kleiman?

Who would have guessed that such a great mind, could have come from down under, from all places. Let's see how this play out. ^hmf^

Thoughts on this one?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w0zrb/on_proof_a_confession_about_satoshi/

Emailing bitcoins? Huh?

That is my take on this as well.

Edit: On further review and in light of the new evidence that the community has unearthed I retract the above statement =)

From the article

"Patrick Paige and Carter Conrad, who run a Palm Beach County business called Computer Forensics, LLC, in which Kleiman was also a partner, formed their own suspicions about Satoshi’s identity after receiving a string of bizarre communications from Wright following Kleiman’s death in 2013
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The next communication that Paige and Conrad received from Wright was stranger still. Emails provided to Gizmodo, the authenticity of which were confirmed by Paige and Conrad, show that in February 2014, 10 months after Kleiman’s death, Wright emailed the pair to tell them about a mysterious project he’d been working on with their friend. As part of this undertaking, Wright wrote, Kleiman had mined an enormous amount of bitcoins—an amount “too large to email.” Wright asked them to ensure that Kleiman’s computers were safe, and to check whether their hard drives contained wallet.dat files, the pieces of software that contain bitcoins and their owners’ account information. On a subsequent phone call with Wright, a baffled Paige asked for more information about the partnership with Kleiman. After that, he said, Wright assumed a clandestine tone. “Can I trust you?”

According to Paige, Wright eventually told him that Kleiman was the creator of Bitcoin. Later, he clarified that the cryptocurrency was invented by a group of people which included Kleiman. If that was true, Kleiman was likely sitting on a fortune when he died in April 2013—even if he were in possession of only half of Satoshi’s fabled million-bitcoin stockpile, that would have been worth about $65,000,000 at the time of his death. Wright made clear to Paige that he wasn’t after the money—he only wanted to make sure that it made its way into Kleiman’s estate and didn’t sit gathering dust in a digital vault.
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Wright stopped calling and emailing them after he made contact with Kleiman’s brother, the executor of Kleiman’s estate. “We knew one day a reporter would come calling,” Paige said. “But we left it at that.”

Thanks for that link. Finished the conference. Found a couple of white papers from Wright, read those. Finished the Transcripts with the Aussie tax authorities and the articles from Gizmodo and Wired.

WE HAVE FOUND SATOSHI AND HE IS STILL WORKING WITH BITCOIN.

Interview Conducted with Craig WRIGHT
Page 37 of 40
McMaster Well, only as a director, but I wasn't an auditor.

Wright: I guess I gained a little bit of paranoia on that one - - -

McMaster: Look, I can understand where you're coming from, okay, and I can also
understand the communication confusion because you clearly see these
5 things as bitcoins.

Wright: I see them as money. 

McMaster: You see them as currency and you treat them in the same way and when you 
talk to us about them, that's how you talk about them and, unfortunately, that
has created a confusion around what actually occurred, and that's all that me
10 as a director and Marina as my Assistant Commissioner are trying to clarify.
What are the true facts here and if at the end of the day you've got a refund,
you've got a refund. End of story. You're entitled.

Sommer: And all we're trying to do, all I'm trying to do is, you know – you know, if I was
a nefarious litigator – and I know lots of them – there's nothing I would rather
15 do than run a declaratory proceeding against you guys about ..... money.
However, with Craig and John in their current situation that's going to tie more
of their money up and, you know, I don't work for free, and that's not going to
progress things. I would rather come to you guys and say, "Look, listen, the
whole treatment of bitcoin is not what we anticipated but if we actually look at
20 what you've said and try and make it work" – and I'm a big fan of trying to
make things work as far as we can. We can always ..... you know, when you
guys lose in the Federal Court and, you know, you decide not to appeal and
bitcoin is money, we can always go back and revise the BASs again but at
least we can make some progress and actually stop this business being
25 strangled, and that's really what I want to achieve. I just want to actually let
these guys escape from under six different audits and try and get back to the
business. That's my objective. 

the more you dig into it , to me it just looks like someone who knew about bitcoin from the start but only really started to get involved with it in late 2013 and has been spending his time since trying to get his bitcoin bank setup. I really can't see Satoshi following the path of trying to setup a bitcoin business from scratch and seek investors to launch a bitcoin bank. It really doesn't point to someone who created Bitcoin itself, more like a normal guy trying to setup a bitcoin business.

More info on this. This time from Gizmodo and a focus on Dave Kleiman with some interviews of people who knew Kleiman

http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692

He's going to have a lot of attention flooding towards him in the coming months. All of which he wanted to avoid all this time. Bitcoin is like a child to him, so he basically couldn't leave it out of his sight. He even went as far to say that etherium has too many bells and whistles and bitcoin could achieve that as well with a much simpler core. Would love to see  him and Vitalik debate together. We know that our god would win.

However on another note. Bitcoin bank? What the actual fuck. He promotes the idea of privately held assets and then creates a fucking bank. On the flip side if you're an entrepreneur and you have been creating businesses your whole life and you're out of ideas, then you realize that banking has been the most profitable business so far in human history. He created bitcoin for gods sake, you can't really top that. I wonder what it's like to be a god.

Id say he's more likely Thomas Nasakioto, creater of ixcoin, copy of bitcoin.

Please include the comment after by Joseph VaughnPerling... 'both of these gentlemen are correct'

https://youtu.be/LdvQTwjVmrE?t=19m55s

I'm not great with whois, but does this mean that Craig Wright registered www.bitc01n.net in 2013 ?
If so I can't really see Satoshi registering and holding a pointless empty domain like that

nl .wsgiga.com/bitc01n.net

"This is the list of name servers that are used to manage bitc01n.net domain name.
ns4.whois.com. craigswright.acm.org."

Registrant Name: C Wright
Registrant Organization: C01N

C01N is linked to:

angpow.net   2013-12-04   publicdomainregistry.com
bitc01n.net   2013-10-04   publicdomainregistry.com
c01n.net   2013-10-05   publicdomainregistry.com
b1tc01n.net   2013-10-04   publicdomainregistry.com
ang-pow.com 2013-12-04   publicdomainregistry.com

so he registered 2 bitcoin domains in 2013 and from everything i read i really don't think it is him

I just rechecked, you are correct.
The fact, this was at an "investing' conference, makes me think this is Satoshi even less now.

In the Tax Collectors transcript they are having trouble figuring out if a large send from one wallet to another, as proof that he controlled a certain amount of coins is a taxable event or not.

I actually like Satoshi more now that I know who he is. He's been upfront from the beginning. With us, with the tax collectors, with everyone. He left because he didn't want to become too influential. When he left his 'other interests' were bitcoin related (mostly).

HODL to the Moon baby!!!

if the the pumper waits until it hits $450 he will dump for $80,000 profit

EDIT:
The kicker is the "Plans" for BTC the guy said.. he is playing games.. Turing Complete ? LOL
just a facade for a pump & dump..

That was not the Bitcoin Scaling Conference. It was the Bitcoin Investor Conference in Las Vegas.

I just finished reading the news and watching the seminar. Having a pretty unknown face in a all star panel is a bit suspicious. He even pretty much gave it away with the smirk on his face when he explained who he was. Wired has done some pretty heavy research about this. However a signed message is all I need to be 100% sure. I know he's the one but if he chooses to stay private, we should respect his privacy. He is a god after all.

http://insecure.org/search.html?q=craig+wright

This guy doesn't read like Satoshi to me.

Also, he had an email in the hackingteam leak.

https://wikileaks.org/hackingteam/emails/?q=cwright&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=0#searchresult