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Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 144. (Read 880461 times)

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Disclosure: small time AMC/VMC shareholder.

But, the short version of the story of VMC so far has been BFL with 10% worse luck. (If you're capable of taking an objective view of BFL, and know how "near" things were.)

This has been slightly compounded by the fact that we've previously had no core technical team of our own so 3rd party expertise had to be brung in, which was another thing that could go wrong of course.

At the moment I think we're experiencing demand/volume issues on the customer service side.

I was as surprised as anyone when we bought in the HF designed stuff, can only assume HF has severe cashflow and credit issues, if we can by the chips off them and the board designs and rent their 3rd party facility for assembly.

Bad luck? That's why bfl, vmc, hashfast, and cointerra all suck? Luck doesn't explain why they treat their customers like dirt either.
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Hodl!
Disclosure: small time AMC/VMC shareholder.

But, the short version of the story of VMC so far has been BFL with 10% worse luck. (If you're capable of taking an objective view of BFL, and know how "near" things were.)

This has been slightly compounded by the fact that we've previously had no core technical team of our own so 3rd party expertise had to be brung in, which was another thing that could go wrong of course.

At the moment I think we're experiencing demand/volume issues on the customer service side.

I was as surprised as anyone when we bought in the HF designed stuff, can only assume HF has severe cashflow and credit issues, if we can by the chips off them and the board designs and rent their 3rd party facility for assembly.
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Why are all the us manufacturers so bad?!? Huh
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Co-Owner Of DCMCo-Op Mining Farm at 3.5 th/s
aweful funny i am Leaving Ken a voice Msg on his Voice mail now on the # on the site, The toll free number is wrong but the Regular number works
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Don't let the nam-shub in your operating system.
Wow, so I plowed though the page that wouldn't load and got to the terms... here is an except:

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(a)     Payments are due in the amounts, in the currency, and at the time stated in the order or confirmation sent by VMC, or if not so stated: (a) paid in USD, to the account designated by VMC; (b)within thirty (10) days of date of invoice.  VMC is not responsible for pricing, typographical or other errors in any offer by VMC and reserves the right to cancel any orders arising from such errors.

and much more stupidity http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_cms=3&controller=cms&content_only=1

The terms are for a pre-order product but the ScamScum boards are supposedly in stock right now, but with no communication possible with the company.... not sure I'd risk $1,999....

update: pay by bank wire is the only option, as is DHL 4 day shipping... what losers

one more update: email to them bounces delivery failure... no one seems to be home but the money vacuum ....

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<[email protected]>:
child status 100...The e-mail message could not be delivered because the user's mailfolder is full.
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10. Contract Construction. In the event that any provision(s) of this Agreement shall be held invalid or unenforceable by a
court of competent jurisdiction or by any future legislative or administrative action, such holding or action shall not
negate the validity or enforceability of any other provisions hereof. The word “or” as used in this Agreement has the
meaning equivalent to “and/or”. The terms ‘include’, ‘includes’ and ‘including’ will be deemed to be immediately
followed by the phrase “without limitation.” If a party is the subject of a sentence, then the word “will” expresses an
obligation, and deemed equivalent to “shall”. The parties agree the rules contract interpretation that would otherwise
require ambiguities to be construed against the drafting party will not apply to this Agreement. These Terms are in the
English language only, which language will be controlling in all respects. Any versions of this Agreement in any other
language will be for accommodation only and will not be binding upon either party. All communications and
documentation to be furnished under this Agreement will be in the English language.




LOL
I think this part is Funny
if you sign this then you are agreeing that even if a judge rules that Part X, X, X, X are NULL and Void that you agree that the other parts of the agreement which rely on the parts negated by the courts are Still valid even tho they are no longer valid


This kinda of STUPID crap they are trying to pull makes me laugh so hard that i almost piss my self
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VMC is as bad as HashScum... tried to "order" a HF board, can't complete checkout because the shipping options won't load, then used the "Call Us Online" button which fails, then called the phone number on the site, it's disconnected.  Virtual is the key word they have no products...
20 boards sold with this checkout quality is something positive, i guess.
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Don't let the nam-shub in your operating system.

Or hashfast folks can just buy from VMC...

link to in-stock items in the setup post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-vmc-fast-hash-one-prospector-512ghs-07wgh-setup-guide-557311

VMC is as bad as HashScum... tried to "order" a HF board, can't complete checkout because the shipping options won't load, then used the "Call Us Online" button which fails, then called the phone number on the site, it's disconnected.  Virtual is the key word they have no products...
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Here is a copy of what i received.

VOLUNTARY REFUND REQUEST AND RELEASE
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Is this legal? They will not give us refunds for our pre-orders unless we agree to their terms?

They can certainly try to get you to agree to it, notice the word "voluntary".  The bottom line though is that if they don't send you the product you are entitled to a refund and your refusal to sign a release like that doesn't really change that basic fact.
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6073472

Someone's doing a setup guide already...lol
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Don't be shy Josh, share your toughs!

Is it a strange turn of events because Garret first and VMC now are trying to use HF's ASICs in industrial quantity, because VMC was vapourware until a week ago, or whatever other reasons? Smiley
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Pretty sure VMC was around before Hashfast... can't swear on that though.
Gotta say it's quite the strange turn of events, though. Very perplexing.
Yea, VMC has been around for a long time. It set off my scam-dar very very hard, so I stayed clear of it and I expect a lot of people did to. The last drama around december was that they were talking about being ready to ship only to turn around and post that their design partnership feel through and that they were "almost done" with RTL. This turn of events is quite perplexing.
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Pretty sure VMC was around before Hashfast... can't swear on that though.

Gotta say it's quite the strange turn of events, though. Very perplexing.
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is vmc a relatively new business? or is it something hashfast has made up to get sales out the door knowing the name "hashfast" won't get as much sales with all the bad rep they have made for themselves?
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Looks like they've shipped plenty of product to other people....

Just not customers...

http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=38&controller=product

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557311.0;topicseen

179 in stock...awesome.
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But these guys set out to build a company, I'm sure.  They didn't start with the idea of Hashfast being a scam to be pilloried as worse than BFL, they wanted a respectable company.
I can't say why, but there is a lot of drama that has yet to unfold, and this statement is unfortunately false.
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Oooh.  Interesting.  Let us know as soon as possible.
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But these guys set out to build a company, I'm sure.  They didn't start with the idea of Hashfast being a scam to be pilloried as worse than BFL, they wanted a respectable company.
I can't say why, but there is a lot of drama that has yet to unfold, and this statement is unfortunately false.
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and anyone who got scammed from hash-fast shouldn't be calling anyone a dumbass  Cool


just saying

You are apparently sore because I think "business" education is low class?  Sorry, but it is.

But "blame the victim"?  No.  Perhaps late buyers should arguably have been more aware, they could have seen some of the fail and complaints before pulling the trigger, but for the folks on the front end, we relied on statements by the company that turned out to be lies.  The culpable party isn't the person relying on false promises, it's the liar.

But these guys set out to build a company, I'm sure.  They didn't start with the idea of Hashfast being a scam to be pilloried as worse than BFL, they wanted a respectable company. They really thought they were the "adults".  They really overestimated their own competence and capabilities.  They really, in their own minds, were going to be the premier hardware manufacturer.

As things started to get shaky, however, they took one wrong decision after another, screwing their customers, scewing their company name and, I hope, their professional reputations for the remainder of their existence on this earth.  The effort to be a successful company has surely now expired in everyone, and I'm betting its rats from a sinking ship now, with people in a position to grab assets trying their best to do so.



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Or hashfast folks can just buy from VMC...

link to in-stock items in the setup post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-vmc-fast-hash-one-prospector-512ghs-07wgh-setup-guide-557311

That sounds grate! Now how do we get those scammers over at hashlast to send the scammers over at vmc the bitcoin we already paid for products last year?

This just gets better and better.

...and by better and better I mean shittier and shittier.

Sure hope none of the slimebag execs at these scammy companies choke on their escargot.
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