Topic: HashFast Store is Live! (Read 5022 times)
sorry, but after BFL/Avalon experience, I told to myself, that I will never ever give free loan to any ASIC company. If you can't produce your miners without loans, you are not partner of any kind of business for me.
Pre-order months out for an untested piece of hardware? Yeah, no.
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Yes, Yes, very very soon, Can't say (under NDA with foundry)
-John
Yes, Yes, very very soon, Can't say (under NDA with foundry)
-John
Old joke:
Lecturer: "While double negatives result in a positive, double positives do not result in a negative."
Heckler from the back row: "Yeah yeah, sure sure."
Hello HashFast, have you got enough pre-order money for tape-out and BOM? When will you tape-out? which foundry do you use?
Yes, Yes, very very soon, Can't say (under NDA with foundry)
-John
LOL
Hello HashFast, have you got enough pre-order money for tape-out and BOM? When will you tape-out? which foundry do you use?
Yes, Yes, very very soon, Can't say (under NDA with foundry)
-John
let's extend your point even further looking into the future.
everyone here, especially eve, keeps spamming the threads about using cc's and paypal. what about the punk that orders from the company that has stock in hand with cc/pp? he receives his machine within a week of ordering, plugs it in, and starts mining. 60d later minus one week, he claims it's not working, sends it back, and does a chargeback.
so many of you want to get the best of both worlds when it comes to this intersection of BTC vs cc/pp. it's not going to happen.
everyone here, especially eve, keeps spamming the threads about using cc's and paypal. what about the punk that orders from the company that has stock in hand with cc/pp? he receives his machine within a week of ordering, plugs it in, and starts mining. 60d later minus one week, he claims it's not working, sends it back, and does a chargeback.
so many of you want to get the best of both worlds when it comes to this intersection of BTC vs cc/pp. it's not going to happen.
Here is my response:
1) PP i agree is has a % risk attached to it
2) CC is a lot more formal and can not be done as easily and the banks actually will hold pple to account whereas PP is a free for all
(I have worked in banking & billing systems for 10+ years)
3) your delivery schedule is ~ 2 months so in effect you are guaranteeing a refund if your dont deliver in those 2 months & a customer decides he cant wait
4) Why dont you have a deposit BTC value & the balance on CC
Explain to me why all the above does not stand to reason
I am not against you guys at all ...lets just see some form or responsability & reasonableness associated with your pre-orders
YipYip -
I think most of your mistrust deals with CC vs. bitcoin for the purchase. I am sure if the market had dictated that they use a reversible method after a few weeks they would have offered that (and dealt with the risks assumed by the company).
It looks like there are a number of Hero Members who are currently carrying the HashFast banner.
Only Cypherdoc has come forward as stating that he would receive any kind of compensation. I believe the compensation was tied to completely selling out the initial pre-order batch -- which was most likely inevitable regardless of having a "hero promoter" or not.
I think most of your mistrust deals with CC vs. bitcoin for the purchase. I am sure if the market had dictated that they use a reversible method after a few weeks they would have offered that (and dealt with the risks assumed by the company).
It looks like there are a number of Hero Members who are currently carrying the HashFast banner.
Only Cypherdoc has come forward as stating that he would receive any kind of compensation. I believe the compensation was tied to completely selling out the initial pre-order batch -- which was most likely inevitable regardless of having a "hero promoter" or not.
You have not answered my questions...just a lot of double talk
Market forces ..blah blah blah ... Backing from Respected pplz...endorcements
If u read my post I say "EXPLAIN TO ME LIKE IM A 5 YEAR OLD " I am not interested in nonsensical SPIN
I just thought of something, we put everyone here thats arguing, trolling or just being a dick into one ring and let everyone duke it out.. but honestly guys that being said this bs is getting old..
sorry its just not productive.. :/
sorry its just not productive.. :/
Hello HashFast, have you got enough pre-order money for tape-out and BOM? When will you tape-out? which foundry do you use?
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as i've said ad nauseum, and can be gleaned if one wishes to interpret the events in a logical manner, there was never any intent to deceive.
what i was describing in that paragraph was "market interpretation" of what is happening in aggregate when a company accepts cc's.
as i've said ad nauseum, and can be gleaned if one wishes to interpret the events in a logical manner, there was never any intent to deceive.
what i was describing in that paragraph was "market interpretation" of what is happening in aggregate when a company accepts cc's.
The intent to deceive was explicitly stated by you. I'm not going to get into another back & forth where you will deny what you have stated on record. This is childish.
you're not reading either with any intent to discern. i could claim by my criticizing the Federal Reserve they are destined to crash. would you believe me?
i'm big on market events and their interpretations. all my subscribers and many on this forum know this. that paragraph is how i describe things when i'm trying to make a point.
also, the facts and timelines are as how i stated but you and Bitcoiniorama prefer to accuse in a highly negative manner.
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as i've said ad nauseum, and can be gleaned if one wishes to interpret the events in a logical manner, there was never any intent to deceive.
what i was describing in that paragraph was "market interpretation" of what is happening in aggregate when a company accepts cc's.
as i've said ad nauseum, and can be gleaned if one wishes to interpret the events in a logical manner, there was never any intent to deceive.
what i was describing in that paragraph was "market interpretation" of what is happening in aggregate when a company accepts cc's.
The intent to deceive was explicitly stated by you. I'm not going to get into another back & forth where you will deny what you have stated on record. This is childish.
but you clearly are, by your own admission.
i'll say it again.
sorry you can't read or interpret events.
a measly $21K order cancelled after holding for a measly 15 days way back in July does not qualify as screwing over KNC.
keep trying hard. your desperation is palpable.
Not to side with Bitcoinorama, but it's much more than the "measly" $21k. You have stated yourself that your intent was to game & deceive.
I will repeat that it is not the deception that i find vile, but the bragging you've done about it, and using your unscrupulous acts to justify unscrupulous acts of HashFast.
as i've said ad nauseum, and can be gleaned if one wishes to interpret the events in a logical manner, there was never any intent to deceive.
what i was describing in that paragraph was "market interpretation" of what is happening in aggregate when a company accepts cc's.
but you clearly are, by your own admission.
i'll say it again.
sorry you can't read or interpret events.
a measly $21K order cancelled after holding for a measly 15 days way back in July does not qualify as screwing over KNC.
keep trying hard. your desperation is palpable.
What desperation? What on earth have I got to be desperate for. I'm not about to lose anything. I'm not taking a reckless gamble on a very defined time period. I made sure of that, and how exactly would I know throughout what length of time your dishonesty lasted? you've never mentioned it. It's no excuse in any event.
Fact is both the company and those ordering should behave with integrity throughout the length of the entire transaction and beyond, unfortunately there has been an onslaught of companies not behaving with integrity continuously throughout this entire forum, and people are fed up with it.
but you clearly are, by your own admission.
i'll say it again.
sorry you can't read or interpret events.
a measly $21K order cancelled after holding for a measly 15 days way back in July does not qualify as screwing over KNC.
keep trying hard. your desperation is palpable.
Not to side with Bitcoinorama, but it's much more than the "measly" $21k. You have stated yourself that your intent was to game & deceive.
I will repeat that it is not the deception that i find vile, but the bragging you've done about it, and using your unscrupulous acts to justify unscrupulous acts of HashFast.
but you clearly are, by your own admission.
i'll say it again.
sorry you can't read or interpret events.
a measly $21K order cancelled after holding for a measly 15 days way back in July does not qualify as screwing over KNC.
keep trying hard. your desperation is palpable.
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Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
99% of what you do around here is shill for KNC. and the length of time and hours spent are enormous. are you kidding?
ShillFest at HashFast.
remember, the definition of a shill is one who hides the fact that they're a proponent for a company.
that definition only applies to Bitcoinorama.
1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.
1. a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house.
2. a person whose praises, endorsements, etc., are motivated by self-interest.
You should stop using wikip as your sole reference.
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Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
99% of what you do around here is shill for KNC. and the length of time and hours spent are enormous. are you kidding?
ShillFest at HashFast.
remember, the definition of a shill is one who hides the fact that they're a proponent for a company.
that definition only applies to Bitcoinorama.
Pahahaha when have I ever said I'm not pro-KnC? I'm pro Bitfury, I've been pro-Terrahash. I'll happily praise Hashfast if they deliver as promised. It's all there for the taking. I'm not getting paid by any of them. I have a degree of funds tied up in KnC, so obv. I want to see them deliver as promised. That doesn't affect you or Hashfast. Your race is not against KnC, you're not operating in the same timeframe with January. it's against Cointerra and X-Crowd.
You are grasping as straws pal, every company I've declared a scam has been one. 100% record. In my mind the jury is still out in Bitsyncom, but they were def pre-mining, and def had possession of chips in June, but have def been caught red-handed telling porkies. I just don't want to see people get burnt through dishonesty. I'm not saying Hashfast are dishonest, their promises still require meeting, but you clearly are dishonest, by your own admission. So attempting to reason that a means for not accepting a specific payment method because of any potential for abuse in the manner in which you yourself have admitted to is a bit hypocritical to say the least.
let's extend your point even further looking into the future.
everyone here, especially eve, keeps spamming the threads about using cc's and paypal. what about the punk that orders from the company that has stock in hand with cc/pp? he receives his machine within a week of ordering, plugs it in, and starts mining. 60d later minus one week, he claims it's not working, sends it back, and does a chargeback.
so many of you want to get the best of both worlds when it comes to this intersection of BTC vs cc/pp. it's not going to happen.
everyone here, especially eve, keeps spamming the threads about using cc's and paypal. what about the punk that orders from the company that has stock in hand with cc/pp? he receives his machine within a week of ordering, plugs it in, and starts mining. 60d later minus one week, he claims it's not working, sends it back, and does a chargeback.
so many of you want to get the best of both worlds when it comes to this intersection of BTC vs cc/pp. it's not going to happen.
Not everyone making a card payment is as dishonest as you are dude;
yes, then don't order.
in fact, you can blame me for advising them not to take cc's. like i said in my thread, i had orders of 3 Jupiter's in at KNC, and 8 H boards with BitFury. i never intended to order that many as a whole simply b/c i was playing the Ms. Fickle game of hedging my bets across multiple companies fully intending to cancel all but one order with whom i deemed the winner in my orderbook in the end. so i artificially inflated the internal expectations at both these companies about what the demand was going to be going forward.
in fact, you can blame me for advising them not to take cc's. like i said in my thread, i had orders of 3 Jupiter's in at KNC, and 8 H boards with BitFury. i never intended to order that many as a whole simply b/c i was playing the Ms. Fickle game of hedging my bets across multiple companies fully intending to cancel all but one order with whom i deemed the winner in my orderbook in the end. so i artificially inflated the internal expectations at both these companies about what the demand was going to be going forward.
yeah, keep pushing that lame theory.
How is it a theory? It's by your own admission above. Zero integrity.
i've explained the whole scenario in detail multiple times yet you continue to ignore it. your whole premise is laughable given the #'s involved but you don't seem to care.
the only logical conclusion based on your trolling is that you are a confirmed KNC shill that has become desperate to smear anything or anyone related to HF.
this is why an entire thread has been dedicated to your KNC shilling.
Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
99% of what you do around here is shill for KNC. and the length of time and hours spent are enormous. are you kidding?
Nope. You're obviously not reading the same threads I do, but as I said before PM me if you want to deviate off topic. You walked into that require of yours earlier, as you were in your words 'the punk' that screwed over the companies concerned.
sorry you can't read or interpret events.
a measly $21K order cancelled after holding for a measly 15 days way back in July does not qualify as screwing over KNC.
keep trying hard. your desperation is palpable.
let's extend your point even further looking into the future.
everyone here, especially eve, keeps spamming the threads about using cc's and paypal. what about the punk that orders from the company that has stock in hand with cc/pp? he receives his machine within a week of ordering, plugs it in, and starts mining. 60d later minus one week, he claims it's not working, sends it back, and does a chargeback.
so many of you want to get the best of both worlds when it comes to this intersection of BTC vs cc/pp. it's not going to happen.
everyone here, especially eve, keeps spamming the threads about using cc's and paypal. what about the punk that orders from the company that has stock in hand with cc/pp? he receives his machine within a week of ordering, plugs it in, and starts mining. 60d later minus one week, he claims it's not working, sends it back, and does a chargeback.
so many of you want to get the best of both worlds when it comes to this intersection of BTC vs cc/pp. it's not going to happen.
Not everyone making a card payment is as dishonest as you are dude;
yes, then don't order.
in fact, you can blame me for advising them not to take cc's. like i said in my thread, i had orders of 3 Jupiter's in at KNC, and 8 H boards with BitFury. i never intended to order that many as a whole simply b/c i was playing the Ms. Fickle game of hedging my bets across multiple companies fully intending to cancel all but one order with whom i deemed the winner in my orderbook in the end. so i artificially inflated the internal expectations at both these companies about what the demand was going to be going forward.
in fact, you can blame me for advising them not to take cc's. like i said in my thread, i had orders of 3 Jupiter's in at KNC, and 8 H boards with BitFury. i never intended to order that many as a whole simply b/c i was playing the Ms. Fickle game of hedging my bets across multiple companies fully intending to cancel all but one order with whom i deemed the winner in my orderbook in the end. so i artificially inflated the internal expectations at both these companies about what the demand was going to be going forward.
yeah, keep pushing that lame theory.
How is it a theory? It's by your own admission above. Zero integrity.
i've explained the whole scenario in detail multiple times yet you continue to ignore it. your whole premise is laughable given the #'s involved but you don't seem to care.
the only logical conclusion based on your trolling is that you are a confirmed KNC shill that has become desperate to smear anything or anyone related to HF.
this is why an entire thread has been dedicated to your KNC shilling.
Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
99% of what you do around here is shill for KNC. and the length of time and hours spent are enormous. are you kidding?
Nope. You're obviously not reading the same threads I do, spent most of the last couple of weeks piecing together what's occured with Bitsynom and the missing millions of cash and chips, but as I said before PM me if you want to deviate off topic. You walked into that re-quote of yours earlier, as you were in your words; 'the punk' that screwed over the companies concerned.
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Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
Nope, I haven't once 'shilled' KnC here. All I've done is called you Cypherdoc out on your BS when you choose to spread it.
99% of what you do around here is shill for KNC. and the length of time and hours spent are enormous. are you kidding?
ShillFest at HashFast.
remember, the definition of a shill is one who hides the fact that they're a proponent for a company.
that definition only applies to Bitcoinorama.
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