Topic: Hate to Russia on EU level. - page 2. (Read 2034 times)

If Poland is OK with the return of the East Prussia, Silesia, and Pomerania, then I believe that Russia should give back Konigsberg. And regarding the Kuril Islands, they were under the Japanese occupation for a relatively short period of time. The original occupants were the Ainu. And the ethnic Ainu now lives in both Russia and Japan. Let them decide about which country they want to be a part of.

You forgot in this long list to mention Konigsberg, the Kuril Islands. If you now start to find out who and what someone needs then it can lead to a world war. The boundaries must be approved by those that the state had upon registration with the UN.

Agreed. But that should apply to everyone. America must withdraw their forces from Germany and Japan first.

Also, according to your logic, Poland must hand back the territories such as Danzig - Westpreußen, Ostpreußen, Niederschlesien, and Oberschlesien to Germany. The Polish claim to these territories is even weaker than the Russian claim on Crimea.

When Poland annexed the four German provinces in 1945, they had a German population of around 95%. The native German population was expelled.

On the other hand, Crimea was a part of Russia until 1954, when it was given to Ukraine by an illegal decree. The native population remained majority Russian (right now around 70%), and despite the heavy Muslim immigration starting from 1989, the Muslim population is less than 13% right now.

Ohh, Crimea, before the integration with Russian Federation have proclaimed the independency.
In that way no one was captured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Independence_of_the_Republic_of_Crimea

No one allows himself to respond to the provocations by the capture of the territory of neighboring States. Obama just showed his weakness and at some point Russia feel impunity.

The only teeth russia has is called trump lol 

I don't care whether the NATO has placed missiles or not. My point was that it was NATO which started the provocations. If you provoke a bear by poking it with a stick, then it will bite. There is no point in claiming later that the response from the bear was disproportionate. Just stop the provocations, if you want no more animosity from Russia.

Id have to agree with you. Probably economies in specific countries tho, not the whole world

What the Russian government and their trolls can speak the truth? I never believe it. If I see that someone praises Russia I machine skip this post. Even if Russia makes something good I could not believe it.

Once again I can repeat if you do not understand. In his post, I responded to another Russian lie in that near its borders, the EU has placed their ballistic missiles. This is a lie and don't take the topic to the side.

Just a few months back, NATO conducted major military exercises in the Baltic nations and Poland, a few kilometers away from the Russian border. Adding to the provocation, they have imposed an informal blockade on the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad, which is situated between Poland and the Baltics. How do you expect Russia to react to these provocations?

But I wonder, where in the vicinity of Russia placed ballistic missiles the EU? What kind of nonsense you write? You show yourself as a clown! Your task is to write a lot of lies. If something cannot be disproved.

MOSCOW, November 25. /TASS/.
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has called on
OSCE Representative on Freedom of the Media Dunja Mijatovic
to thoroughly analyze the European Parliament’s resolution against anti-EU propaganda by third countries as her reaction to the document lacked specifics.
Zakharova channeled a letter to Mijatovic, the text of which was posted on the Russian foreign ministry’s Facebook account on Friday.
"I have read your first reaction to the European Parliament’s resolution on EU strategic communication to counteract propaganda against it by third parties of November 23," Zakharova wrote. "I think it lacks specifics as concerns professional assessment of this document which is unprecedented in terms of possible persecution measures against Russian mass media in the European Union countries."
"Russian mass media are literally equated to media structures of the terrorist organization Islamic State [outlawed in Russia - TASS] and other terrorist structures recognized as such by the United Nations," the spokeswoman noted.
The Russian diplomat admitted that the European Parliament’s activities are outside Mijatovic’s competences but she stressed that the document it passed undermines the basics of democratic relations in the sphere of the mass media and hence requires an adequate assessment by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
"Taking into account the current level of our cooperation, I strongly ask you to be unbiased in analyzing the resolution and possible implementation impacts on the future of Europe as a space of democracy and supremacy of law and give it a public assessment. Silence in this case would mean connivance to the worst, i.e. to official recognition of the expediency of persecution of the mass media," the spokeswoman stressed.


http://tass.com/politics/914741

Russia didn't alienated anyone. It is the other way around. It is the European Union, which alienated Russia. They were behind all the provocations, such as placing ballistic missiles close to the Russian border, and overthrowing democratically elected pro-Russian governments.

MOSCOW, November 24./TASS/.
Moscow hopes that no practical moves will follow after the EU Parliament’s resolution to counter propaganda of third countries, otherwise counter measures will be taken, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Thursday.



"We have to state with regret that attempts to demonize Russia don’t stop in the European Union, and this document cannot be called otherwise than paranoia," the diplomat said. "The document is overloaded with phobias, fictitious messages, myths, it reflects very explicitly the ideology that the EU has been cultivating towards Russia over the recent time," she said.

"This document compares the ‘propaganda war of the Kremlin’ waged against the East to propaganda means of the outlawed in Russia terrorist organization Islamic State," she noted.
"We have repeatedly stated that Russia is not conducting any anti-European propaganda. Russia is interested in seeing the European Union a strong, stable, predictable partner with which we would like to develop equal and mutually advantageous cooperation," Zakharova said.
"We hope that no practical decisions to restrict the activity of Russian media will follow after the resolution," the diplomat said. "There is a reason for such hope, as the approval of this document has triggered a colossal wave of rejection in the European Union itself," the diplomat went on.
"However, if practical moves are made under this document, countermeasures will follow," Zakharova said.
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http://tass.com/politics/914380

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Z0C3_Mhdc

Spokesperson for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Maria Zakharova hit out at Western “hysteria” and “empty accusations” from their institutions aimed at Russia, speaking from Moscow on Thursday, in reaction to the EU's approval of draft legislation to counteract so-called "anti-EU" propaganda.

The Russian Foreign Ministry had "stated, multiple times that there is no anti-EU propaganda from the Russian side" said the spokesperson. She added that if Europe decided to take this path, it would "prohibit the activity of mass media as its priority", tantamount to installing "transmitters at the borders of European countries with other countries, which will be broadcasting the propaganda of western values."

SOT, Maria Zakharova, Spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Russian): "This document compares, and I want to emphasise this, the so-called propaganda war of the Kremlin against the European Union to the propagandist methods of the Islamic State, a terrorist organisation which is prohibited in Russia. Colleagues, this is a clinical case. We have stated, multiple times, that there is no anti-EU propaganda from the Russian side. If the European Union has any internal problems, they should not look for reasons of propaganda by third parties, but to themselves."

SOT, Maria Zakharova, Spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Russian): "If Europe takes this path and will choose it as the main one, in particular, it will prohibit the activity of mass media as its priority. So honestly speaking, if this ideology prevails, it is very close to the installation of transmitters at the borders of European countries with other countries, which will be broadcasting the propaganda of western values. I am asking you to remember this since we will get back to this topic in some time even if I hope it doesn't happen. Maybe it will even come to the book burning, which somebody in the European Union will consider as not corresponding to the dominant ideology. Indeed, this has already happened in Europe."

SOT, Maria Zakharova, Spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Russian): "Remember what happened with the question of the journalist of the Russia Today TV Channel who tried to clarify with the US State Department which exact civic objects he meant when he said that they [the objects] were destroyed by the Russian Federation and the Syrian regime? Just one question - what exactly do you mean? Tell us names, geographical points and coordinates. Remember what happened? Hysteria, quite simply, which resulted in accusations of propaganda. What kind of propaganda is that? You [the US] never tell us the coordinates, dates, and locations of those objects which, according to you, were destroyed by Syrian army with Russia's aviation support. Never. Just words. Just empty accusations."

Russia surprisingly could alienate all countries, but it knows whom to bribe in order to reduce the damage from this amount of negativity. Experience of corruption in Putin's big. It helps him to survive.

In Europe, now gaining popularity of populist and nationalist sentiments. I think this is due to the crisis in the economy of the world. In any case, Europe is mindful that many countries have long been occupied by the Soviet Union.

If Merkel will deal with immigrants, in Germany you will not win. In France you can. France has always been a corrupt country. Suffice it to recall how they met Hitler's troops.

Once again, you are wrong. The German federal elections are due in a few months and it is almost certain that Angela Merkel will be defeated. Once the Russophobic Merkel is removed from power, the relations between Russia and Germany are going to improve.

The main voice in the EU is Germany, and it is absolutely not going to change its policy towards Russia. Even if the European Union disintegrates, Russia will not be easier. Sanctions will be extended.