Most of the suggested sites in this thread are not legally available to US players. If the T&C state "No US players" you are putting your money in jeopardy even before placing a single bet. If the day comes (and its not unlikely it will) where you are asked for KYC you have a huge problem.
Cant understand why someone would be willing to take that chance with five figures at risk.
OP stated he is not a professional bettor, just looking for the best odds on his bets, with that at mind its no point in risking it all by breaking the T&C
Topic: Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? (Read 233 times)
January 12, 2022, 08:55:26 PM
January 12, 2022, 05:29:25 PM
Hi,
Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?
I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.
I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.
Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.
I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?
I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.
I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.
Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.
I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
I'd probably go with either Stake or Nitrogensports.
Both have been around for a while and $10k is peanuts to them.
If you really value reputation then go with Stake, but Nitro may occassionally have better odds compared to Stake (check their odds before you bet, obviously). I think that your odds are much more important than any lossback/cashback you get. Nitro did have some issues a while back so be aware of that.
January 12, 2022, 02:10:25 PM
hello, give me your telegram, I want to ask you something, your private messages are blocked
Hey user I don't know how true your claim to have $15,000 for deposit and that is a huge amount to risk on telegram advice so you have to be careful.On the other hand, you can look over on the gambling board to find the casino sort booker that fits your desires, and doesn't trust any individual to search out the site yourself to be certain it's safe before depositing.
January 12, 2022, 01:00:10 PM
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But did you have a good experience withdrawing without any problem?Most people in here suggested by their experience, one experience important things on betting online. Sometimes, casino make some excuse not to paid or make such a big drama just because they withdraw to big.
Your money 15,000$ is a big chunk, so limiting the suggested site is important. If you give me a choice:
- A different few percentage odds between each site
- Or good withdrawal speed and activity.
I take a a few % small ods comparing other site rather than have a problem of my withdraw.
January 12, 2022, 03:18:28 AM
I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
Even if you have issues on Fortunejack and did not get what you think owe you, there are still a lot of good casinos here that's worth looking so you can bet without worrying about your details and you are 100% can cash out, some of the casinos I can recommend are Stake.com, Duelbits, Betfury and Rollbit, go for casinos with massive promotion here and with good rating among gamblers.
January 12, 2022, 02:42:24 AM
Although Stake has been already suggested I want to say that your best bet is to place the bets there,they offer 3x times more points toward your VIP status when you use sport betting and if you are betting that big amount of money you will reach VIP status in the first levels very quickly which entitles you to great bonuses as suggested.There are also other sites but I don't know if you will find such benefits there at those sites.
January 12, 2022, 02:08:48 AM
Stake.com has already been suggested and has several options that helps players "highrollers".
Another option , If you are allowed to bet with betfair.com you should create an account there.
Because It is the largest exchange betting on the web, there are a lot of events with a discrete volume of money deposited / plus they have several promotions for new players. If you know how to play exchange betting it's like a cashcow, despite they are not focused too much with US markets.
Last but not least, You cannot play with crypto but is a good chance for any players pocketing "easy money".
Another option , If you are allowed to bet with betfair.com you should create an account there.
Because It is the largest exchange betting on the web, there are a lot of events with a discrete volume of money deposited / plus they have several promotions for new players. If you know how to play exchange betting it's like a cashcow, despite they are not focused too much with US markets.
Last but not least, You cannot play with crypto but is a good chance for any players pocketing "easy money".
January 12, 2022, 01:34:10 AM
Everyone has suggested you with a sports betting site, all, you refuse, of course you have your own reasons for that, $15k, quite a big chance of winning, especially football betting.
So, consider the one suggested by: @ryzaadit.
It seems that you have not refused and gave reasons.
If you reject all the suggestions here, that's all, maybe you can try a sports betting site outside, maybe a lot, wait there's one more that hasn't been suggested.
BK8.
So, consider the one suggested by: @ryzaadit.
It seems that you have not refused and gave reasons.
Duelbits or Roobet?
If you reject all the suggestions here, that's all, maybe you can try a sports betting site outside, maybe a lot, wait there's one more that hasn't been suggested.
BK8.
January 11, 2022, 11:56:06 PM
hello, give me your telegram, I want to ask you something, your private messages are blocked
Hi, not interested in buying picks, betting with a random person, tailing, or selling crypto. Many scammers around. If you’d like to ask me a question, please post it here.
I do not want to sell or buy something to you, I could tell you what you need
but since you are so, then listen to here paid posters with referral links in the signature, they will lead you. Good luck.
OP is right since he posted this in public, he should get a response in public, if you have a good recommendation that you think should be in private at least post some details of it here, it's ok if the one posting is highly reputable members but I doubt if they will ask you to send them a message because they know the ethics here, they will post what they know and what can help OP.
January 11, 2022, 04:43:34 PM
This is a funny post, and shows where you are paying for the marketing with worse odds. Did you know that LowVig is a sportsbook offered by BetOnline? They offer no promotions, only reduced juice. You only see marketing ads for BetOnline and Sportsbetting, both owned by BetOnline. BetOnline and Sportsbetting offer 1.91/1.91 odds, whereas LowVig offers 1.95/1.95. LowVig is owned by the BetOnline group. Check them out sometime.
BetCris is good but they offer no bonuses or reduced juice. I am not a professional bettor, so the desire to have unlimited bet amounts at 1.91/1.91 isn’t an incentive for me. They will take $100k bets with ease though.
I did not know they are in the Betonline group. Thanks for the input.
Well if you get 2.5% lines and have the same security as Betonline why look elsewhere. Thats the best you will find as a US player (without having to break any T&C). Good luck with your bets!
January 11, 2022, 03:43:28 PM
If you are US based my first choice would be BetOnline.ag. They been around for several decades and are certainly trustworthy. Mainly focusing on US sports and the US market. 1.91/-110 lines on most of the big leagues. KYC after a certain amount (read the TC before signing up).
BetCris, very similar to Betonline.ag. Been around for ages and are trustworthy. Focus on US and US sports.
Both of these sites accept highroller bets without running into problems. $15k on a NBA/NFL match should not be a issue. The webdesign is old and outdated and bitcoin withdrawals takes up to 24 hours, but other than that they are top notch and you can be certain to be paid your winnings.
If you are comfortable playing with a VPN I would go for Sportsbet.io. They are trustworthy and offer instant deposit/withdrawals. Odds a bit on the lower side compared to Betonline/BetCris.
Most bookies dont want US action. You already gambling if you choose to break T&C when signing up from a restricted area with a VPN.
If I were you I would accept to wait a little longer for my withdrawals and place my action with a US friendly book.
BetCris, very similar to Betonline.ag. Been around for ages and are trustworthy. Focus on US and US sports.
Both of these sites accept highroller bets without running into problems. $15k on a NBA/NFL match should not be a issue. The webdesign is old and outdated and bitcoin withdrawals takes up to 24 hours, but other than that they are top notch and you can be certain to be paid your winnings.
If you are comfortable playing with a VPN I would go for Sportsbet.io. They are trustworthy and offer instant deposit/withdrawals. Odds a bit on the lower side compared to Betonline/BetCris.
Most bookies dont want US action. You already gambling if you choose to break T&C when signing up from a restricted area with a VPN.
If I were you I would accept to wait a little longer for my withdrawals and place my action with a US friendly book.
This is a funny post, and shows where you are paying for the marketing with worse odds. Did you know that LowVig is a sportsbook offered by BetOnline? They offer no promotions, only reduced juice. You only see marketing ads for BetOnline and Sportsbetting, both owned by BetOnline. BetOnline and Sportsbetting offer 1.91/1.91 odds, whereas LowVig offers 1.95/1.95. LowVig is owned by the BetOnline group. Check them out sometime.
BetCris is good but they offer no bonuses or reduced juice. I am not a professional bettor, so the desire to have unlimited bet amounts at 1.91/1.91 isn’t an incentive for me. They will take $100k bets with ease though.
January 11, 2022, 03:29:41 PM
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Duelbits or Roobet?I'm not a fan of sportsbook, so the case for odds issue does not really help a lot. But, If you looking a nice experience site with a good withdraw activity then a few lists from "Coin-Trade" is good.
My experience with stake good, withdraw a lot money more than 5K-8K without any issue.
January 11, 2022, 03:26:04 PM
If you are US based my first choice would be BetOnline.ag. They been around for several decades and are certainly trustworthy. Mainly focusing on US sports and the US market. 1.91/-110 lines on most of the big leagues. KYC after a certain amount (read the TC before signing up).
BetCris, very similar to Betonline.ag. Been around for ages and are trustworthy. Focus on US and US sports.
Both of these sites accept highroller bets without running into problems. $15k on a NBA/NFL match should not be a issue. The webdesign is old and outdated and bitcoin withdrawals takes up to 24 hours, but other than that they are top notch and you can be certain to be paid your winnings.
If you are comfortable playing with a VPN I would go for Sportsbet.io. They are trustworthy and offer instant deposit/withdrawals. Odds a bit on the lower side compared to Betonline/BetCris.
Most bookies dont want US action. You already gambling if you choose to break T&C when signing up from a restricted area with a VPN.
If I were you I would accept to wait a little longer for my withdrawals and place my action with a US friendly book.
BetCris, very similar to Betonline.ag. Been around for ages and are trustworthy. Focus on US and US sports.
Both of these sites accept highroller bets without running into problems. $15k on a NBA/NFL match should not be a issue. The webdesign is old and outdated and bitcoin withdrawals takes up to 24 hours, but other than that they are top notch and you can be certain to be paid your winnings.
If you are comfortable playing with a VPN I would go for Sportsbet.io. They are trustworthy and offer instant deposit/withdrawals. Odds a bit on the lower side compared to Betonline/BetCris.
Most bookies dont want US action. You already gambling if you choose to break T&C when signing up from a restricted area with a VPN.
If I were you I would accept to wait a little longer for my withdrawals and place my action with a US friendly book.
January 11, 2022, 03:24:17 PM
Too many people do not consider house edge. 1.91/1.91 is a 4.5% house edge. 1.95/1.95 is a 2.5% house edge.
KYC by these basically unregulated casinos run in Curaçao, which I guarantee involve themselves in money laundering the profits out of Curaçao, is their way of delaying payouts. When you say “oh send us your documents” and hold someone’s withdrawal for several days, many degenerates will continue to gamble and lose it all. Casinos do not give a care about who you are EXCEPT when they can 1) keep your winnings or 2) encourage you to keep gambling.
Most of the online casino has this house edge (1%-5%) and I think that is reasonable enough.KYC by these basically unregulated casinos run in Curaçao, which I guarantee involve themselves in money laundering the profits out of Curaçao, is their way of delaying payouts. When you say “oh send us your documents” and hold someone’s withdrawal for several days, many degenerates will continue to gamble and lose it all. Casinos do not give a care about who you are EXCEPT when they can 1) keep your winnings or 2) encourage you to keep gambling.
I think it is natural that there is an anti-fraud policy on each gambling that we should be careful always and it is always adviseable to read the C&S before proceeding to use the casino. KYC is very common especially if the casino has been licensed, so they are required to verify those large transactions and you mentioned above the amount that you wanted to place a bet and gamble which is a big amount.
Have you tried this casino( https://owl.games/sports )? aside from Sportsbet.io which seems they are both the same good casino for me.
January 11, 2022, 03:11:54 PM
There are plenty of sites where you can gamble with that volume. I don't think you can see all limits on all sites. You should then view and assess that per site. And it also depends on what kind of sport you want to bet, and whether you also want to add a casino every now and then. There are also many comparison sites with all the pros and cons listed.
No site I see on any of the referral paid “comparison sites” offers 1.95/1.95 odds on main markets and accepts USA players.
January 11, 2022, 03:10:21 PM
There are plenty of sites where you can gamble with that volume. I don't think you can see all limits on all sites. You should then view and assess that per site. And it also depends on what kind of sport you want to bet, and whether you also want to add a casino every now and then. There are also many comparison sites with all the pros and cons listed.
January 11, 2022, 03:00:08 PM
Hi,
Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?
I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.
I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.
Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.
I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?
I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.
I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.
Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.
I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
This seems like the setup for money laundering, where you make such an offer trying to entice casino owners and place bets at two locations with a small difference in pricing. One casino owner will win from the bet and the other will have to pay almost twice the amount back to you. That way you get cleaned money from a wallet that is either unique or scrambled with potentially thousands of transactions per day. I wonder if you are willing to submit to KYC or will this be a deal breaker for you? If you will submit to KYC then you might be legit, otherwise it just makes it even more suspicious. Trustworthiness goes two ways and there is something suspicious about anyone posting this sort of offer.
Bit ridiculous to accuse me of money laundering.
I am looking to make $3-5k bets, either lose the $15k or cashout $30k (double my deposit). If I bet $5k on 1.91 odds market, where LowVig will pay me 1.95, I just cost myself an additional $250 winnings.
Too many people do not consider house edge. 1.91/1.91 is a 4.5% house edge. 1.95/1.95 is a 2.5% house edge.
KYC by these basically unregulated casinos run in Curaçao, which I guarantee involve themselves in money laundering the profits out of Curaçao, is their way of delaying payouts. When you say “oh send us your documents” and hold someone’s withdrawal for several days, many degenerates will continue to gamble and lose it all. Casinos do not give a care about who you are EXCEPT when they can 1) keep your winnings or 2) encourage you to keep gambling.
Fairlay (BTC) and LowVig (Fiat) are by far the two best sportsbooks I have used. Both offer great odds, no bonuses, no KYC, and pay out $10k+ in under an hour.
My post was simply seeing if any US accepting book that was as good as Fairlay or LowVig had come out. From what I am seeing, the answer is no. And that’s okay! I will deposit to Fairlay or LowVig as usual.
January 11, 2022, 02:54:36 PM
Hi,
Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?
I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.
I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.
Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.
I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?
I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.
I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.
Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.
I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
This seems like the setup for money laundering, where you make such an offer trying to entice casino owners and place bets at two locations with a small difference in pricing. One casino owner will win from the bet and the other will have to pay almost twice the amount back to you. That way you get cleaned money from a wallet that is either unique or scrambled with potentially thousands of transactions per day. I wonder if you are willing to submit to KYC or will this be a deal breaker for you? If you will submit to KYC then you might be legit, otherwise it just makes it even more suspicious. Trustworthiness goes two ways and there is something suspicious about anyone posting this sort of offer.
January 11, 2022, 02:50:16 PM
Stake.com
Sportsbet.io
Fortunejack.com
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Well, all above it seems Stake.com has a lot of bonus offer when you deposit a big amount like what OP said. But I don't know recently there are many players there has a complaint here, perhaps anyone of you wants to gamble there, just read carefully the TOS to avoid the serious problem in the future which is commonly experienced by most. This casino has really strict when it comes to violations. Sportsbet.io
Fortunejack.com
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However, there are more. Wolf.bet and I heard Roobet has now Sportbetting. But for further information regarding a gambling casino list that has gained a reputation here just look at this thread. [ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/table-withdrawal-fees-and-withdrawal-amounts-on-crypto-casinos-5333602 ]
Unfortunately for high rollers / big bets, Stake is not the best. Their odds can be as bad as 1.86/1.86 on major markets. For some markets they are as good as 1.93/1.93.
For small winnings, Stake will payout but for large payouts, they will require KYC, and will take my winnings for using a VPN, despite them allowing it for years. They are freerolling a lot of people now. Their bonuses are for small bettors, offering money back for $100 or less bets, nothing for big players.
Right now 1.95/1.95 seems to be my best option with LowVig.
January 11, 2022, 02:37:47 PM
Stake.com
Sportsbet.io
Fortunejack.com
[snip]
Well, all above it seems Stake.com has a lot of bonus offer when you deposit a big amount like what OP said. But I don't know recently there are many players there has a complaint here, perhaps anyone of you wants to gamble there, just read carefully the TOS to avoid the serious problem in the future which is commonly experienced by most. This casino has really strict when it comes to violations. Sportsbet.io
Fortunejack.com
[snip]
However, there are more. Wolf.bet and I heard Roobet has now Sportbetting. But for further information regarding a gambling casino list that has gained a reputation here just look at this thread. [ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/table-withdrawal-fees-and-withdrawal-amounts-on-crypto-casinos-5333602 ]
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