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legendary
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August 08, 2022, 02:17:58 PM
#14
If it is real, where is it?
Have you seen the internet?
Why do you ask?
If you were able to answer this question, then from the answer itself you can come to a conclusion whether bitcoin is real or mere numbers.
member
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August 08, 2022, 02:02:34 PM
#13
Where did people get the idea that bitcoin exists, given all we see are numbers send to their addresses via Nakamoto's communication system?  If someone sent "5" to me via SMS, and write "Porsche" next to it, that doesn't mean I now own 5 spot cars. By what logic did people conclude that just because they received numbers, and see "BTC" in their wallet apps, they own BTC or bitcoin?
You are also trying to say the E-currency some government are adopting does not exist,  this E-currency of some government are just trying to imitate bitcoin. You don't need to see bitcoin without the physical eye or feel it with thy hand,  bitcoin is a digital currency that is why it is different from the fiat currency.
jr. member
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August 08, 2022, 02:00:37 PM
#12
Can you please answer the question, instead of repeating some random answers? I see people claiming to buy or own BTC. But all they can show me is number send to them, and "BTC" in their wallet apps. I can come up with a communication system that would have "Porsche" written next to the number I would send to people who would register to that system. But that doesn't mean they would own Porsches. So, why do you think that you own BTC, when you receive some number via Nakamoto's communication system and see "BTC" next to it?
You example is highly flawed, porches are an existing product, you cannot create a system to duplicate that. Bitcoin is not trying to imitate any existing asset or technology.

Are you aware of how a digital commodity works? There are digital gift cards which have a certain value, there are assets which are represented physically which have a value as well, Bitcoin is one of such assets.
It exists on the blockchain technology. If you believe a thing has to be physical to be real, then you're about 30 years behind.

If you can come up with a digital system which is immutable, transparent, fungible, decentralized etc, that would equally be valuable.
A gift card is the record of liability of the card issuer to give you a specified cash value of goods or services. Liability of one is asset of another. So, a gift card is simply an evidence of an asset. When number is send to you via Nakamoto's communication system no entity has liability towards you. So you own no asset with the name BTC. You claim you do own it. So, where is it? Blockchain only has info on that number that was sent to you. But no BTC, no asset exists there.
legendary
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August 08, 2022, 01:46:14 PM
#11
Can you please answer the question, instead of repeating some random answers? I see people claiming to buy or own BTC. But all they can show me is number send to them, and "BTC" in their wallet apps. I can come up with a communication system that would have "Porsche" written next to the number I would send to people who would register to that system. But that doesn't mean they would own Porsches. So, why do you think that you own BTC, when you receive some number via Nakamoto's communication system and see "BTC" next to it?
You example is highly flawed, porches are an existing product, you cannot create a system to duplicate that. Bitcoin is not trying to imitate any existing asset or technology.

Are you aware of how a digital commodity works? There are digital gift cards which have a certain value, there are assets which are represented physically which have a value as well, Bitcoin is one of such assets.
It exists on the blockchain technology. If you believe a thing has to be physical to be real, then you're about 30 years behind.

If you can come up with a digital system which is immutable, transparent, fungible, decentralized etc, that would equally be valuable.
jr. member
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August 08, 2022, 01:41:43 PM
#10
Well, it's not about me being right on something. I am just asking you people, given you say that you own bitcoins, where did you get the idea that you actually own them?
Private keys.

I see no bitcons. Do you see them?
Yes.

Where are they?
On a globally distributed public ledger.
If I download wallet app I get private key. But I see no bitcoin except "0" and "BTC".

I could put this: "5 Porsche" on a globally distributed public ledger. But that doesn't mean Porsches are there. So, just because someone put numbers on a globally distributed public ledger, that doesn't mean bitcoins are there. People can put numbers wherever they want. Why do you think that you own bitcoins when someone put numbers into some database?


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武士道
August 08, 2022, 01:31:16 PM
#9
Well, it's not about me being right on something. I am just asking you people, given you say that you own bitcoins, where did you get the idea that you actually own them?
Private keys.

I see no bitcons. Do you see them?
Yes.

Where are they?
On a globally distributed public ledger.
jr. member
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August 08, 2022, 01:17:18 PM
#8
So you want physical money? Great, go to printedfiatforum.gov.
I want an answer to my question. Nothing else.
If it is real, where is it?
Have you seen the internet?
Why do you ask?
hero member
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August 08, 2022, 01:16:17 PM
#7
So you want physical money? Great, go to printedfiatforum.gov.

If it is real, where is it?
Have you seen the internet?
jr. member
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August 08, 2022, 01:11:54 PM
#6
Nothing has value in life unless people accepted it to have value.

Where did people get the idea that bitcoin exists, given all we see are numbers send to their addresses via Nakamoto's communication system?
People accepted what Satoshi Invented and it becomes valuable.

If someone sent "5" to me via SMS, and write "Porsche" next to it, that doesn't mean I now own 5 spot cars. By what logic did people conclude that just because they received numbers, and see "BTC" in their wallet apps, they own BTC or bitcoin?
Someone sent you number 5 in a text message, if you want to use it to buy something, they will think you are mad, but if someone send your 1 BTC, you can use it to buy house, car or anything that has value and still have change to collect.

Well, it's not about me being right on something. I am just asking you people, given you say that you own bitcoins, where did you get the idea that you actually own them? The fact is you have nothing except numbers sent to you via Nakamoto's communication system? I see no bitcons. Do you see them? Where are they?
Stop being a fool.
Can you please answer the question, instead of repeating some random answers? I see people claiming to buy or own BTC. But all they can show me is number send to them, and "BTC" in their wallet apps. I can come up with a communication system that would have "Porsche" written next to the number I would send to people who would register to that system. But that doesn't mean they would own Porsches. So, why do you think that you own BTC, when you receive some number via Nakamoto's communication system and see "BTC" next to it?

If you can receive them and send them and no one else have access to them, then they are real and they are yours.

Once you understand the logic behind bitcoin and why people trust it, then you will realize how real they are and all the things you can do with it.

If you want to believe that bitcoin isn't real then good luck with than and enjoy your bubble.  Grin
If it is real, where is it?
legendary
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August 08, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
#5
If you can receive them and send them and no one else have access to them, then they are real and they are yours.

Once you understand the logic behind bitcoin and why people trust it, then you will realize how real they are and all the things you can do with it.

If you want to believe that bitcoin isn't real then good luck with than and enjoy your bubble.  Grin
legendary
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August 08, 2022, 12:58:17 PM
#4
Nothing has value in life unless people accepted it to have value.

Where did people get the idea that bitcoin exists, given all we see are numbers send to their addresses via Nakamoto's communication system?
People accepted what Satoshi Invented and it becomes valuable.

If someone sent "5" to me via SMS, and write "Porsche" next to it, that doesn't mean I now own 5 spot cars. By what logic did people conclude that just because they received numbers, and see "BTC" in their wallet apps, they own BTC or bitcoin?
Someone sent you number 5 in a text message, if you want to use it to buy something, they will think you are mad, but if someone send your 1 BTC, you can use it to buy house, car or anything that has value and still have change to collect.
jr. member
Activity: 252
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August 08, 2022, 12:42:03 PM
#3
You're a funny troll. If Bitcoin wouldn't exist, you wouldn't have created an account here. Good luck with that Tongue


Well, it's not about me being right on something. I am just asking you people, given you say that you own bitcoins, where did you get the idea that you actually own them? The fact is you have nothing except numbers sent to you via Nakamoto's communication system? I see no bitcons. Do you see them? Where are they?
legendary
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August 08, 2022, 12:30:42 PM
#2
You're a funny troll. If Bitcoin wouldn't exist, you wouldn't have created an account here. Good luck with that Tongue

Then again: you're right!

jr. member
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August 08, 2022, 12:26:22 PM
#1
Where did people get the idea that bitcoin exists, given all we see are numbers send to their addresses via Nakamoto's communication system?  If someone sent "5" to me via SMS, and write "Porsche" next to it, that doesn't mean I now own 5 spot cars. By what logic did people conclude that just because they received numbers, and see "BTC" in their wallet apps, they own BTC or bitcoin?
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