Topic: ⚡️ {Have} Paypal {Want} BTC⚡️ - page 2. (Read 1066 times)

This is really strange and difficult for newbie like me to find someone trusted and do trade , if this is case . any one in this forum has advise for newbies as all newbies are not bad , there are some newbies who really wanted to do trade in forum but they can't due to reason newbie

anyone can suggest something or help ?

I'm paying ONLY from funds, therefore it's not always available. That's why i asked to send me a PM if needed to arrange the deal.
The rate will depend of the availability and the amount you want to exchange.
I don't use credit cards to send payment and i send always as Friend/Family for your security.




Yes of course  you have to trust the person owning the Paypal. But let me tell you, that you can't so simply reserve payments on Paypal, especially when you sold BTCs. First you need to really understand the Tos of Paypal.
If whatever happens on your Paypal account, you can't simply reverse it. You have to open a DISPUTE
+ You can't open a dispute for every transaction you did on Paypal.

In case of a dispute, you have to proof to Paypal why you dispute? Don't think that PP will just believe what you say. There are some clear factors that will proof that you really sent the payment.
+ at least with EUR Accounts (I don't know how is it in USA etc..), when you send a Payment as GIFT/Friend from your funds (I don't know how is with credit cards as I never used credit cards to send a payment), you can't reverse or dispute that payment. There is NO buyer protection on it. It's clear said in the TOS.

+ If you send money to someone as Service and you want to dispute it, note that Paypal will contact the receiver to understand what went wrong. Let's say you bought for example funds on Localbitcoins etc. The receiver will state that he sent you the BTC and PAypal will release the money to this person, even if you really never received the coins - for a very simple reason: selling bitcoins with PAypal is not protected. This happened exactly to me. I sent payment to a Vendor with my funds, I never got the coins and I lost the dispute. So don't always think that only the Paypal receiver will take a risk.

For that reason, you can't do such deals with everyone. You can't and shouldn't accept Paypal from everyone.

With or without escrow the risks are almost totally absorbed by the PayPal receiver. The sender can reverse the payment up to six months from payment date, an incredibly fatal flaw in the PayPal transaction process. While this might be good for other non-bitcoin scenarios, I believe 6 months represent an excessively relaxed chargeback privilege. It indirectly implies that merchants or people receiving PayPal payments might have a criminal predisposition. A predisposition to defraud or scam. An insulting assumption.

This is a payment method to avoid when transacting with strangers. Imagine having sent bitcoins, see those coins confirmed more than a hundred thousand times after 5 months, then out of the blue your PayPal reflects a reversal or chargeback for a trade you did ages ago. This is a payment method with evil written all over it.

You and zazarBTC are right, but are you paying from funds ? what are your rate ? you don't really have any vast trade history with Paypal for someone to take yours 2k eur. Most if you paying with Credit Card people shouldn't be trading with you, due to the nature of Paypal.

Yes, I haven't been active for a very long time on this forum. After I returned, I changed my Email to have one Email dedicated to the forum to not mix up with my private stuff. My Password did not change as you can see. So I really don't see why anyone should be afraid to deal with me.
In the past years, I have successfully dealed on this forum with respected members (also Legendary Members) and after I returned to the forum (already few weeks ago), I had some deals with also some respected members of this forum.
For example few days ago I sold BTC to Magnavox and bought today BTC from what1005 to not mention other deals i made here.

You can see here the review left: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21498242

@Zazarb, yeah you are a very respected Legendary user here, but please don't judge people you don't know or you haven't yet dealed with. Everyone earns a chance. Isn't?
I'm planing to starting offering in the next days very interesting services here, I will get you some vouch copies of my products/services and would appreciate to an honest and fair review 
This could be a good, honest and fair start then.

beware, I do not recommend any deal with OP without escrow!

If you can send first, then contact me.
Otherwise will do this deal with a Newbie - Nothing against you but your account is new and i can't give you trust now.

I can provide you btc.. want to chat over skype further?

Skype - expertofexperts

Hi
I Have EUR Paypal, I want your BTC
PM to arrange the deal.

Minimum 50EUR/USD, Maximal: 2000EUR/USD