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No, I have not considered a career in Sports Betting consultancy but I am quite struck by the news. We've all heard of tipsters, some have their own channels on Youtube, Telegram, etc. but to go so far as to create a company with those numbers seems fascinating to me. It means scaling the business.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 14, 2022, 05:41:13 AM

Arguably the UK’s most notorious sports bettor, Tony Bloom, is the owner of Starlizard, a company that describes itself as a betting consultancy.

Based out of Camden, London, Starlizard is also the sole adviser for Bloom’s betting syndicate, who every weekend have £1 million riding on any given football game.

This makes Starlizard the biggest betting syndicate in Britain and it is believed they make roughly £100 million a year, but that would be an average year.

Due to the secrecy surrounding the company, little is known about their total earnings, although it’s quite safe to assume it’s in the billions of pounds.

What this makes me wonder is whether the edge they get might not bankrupt some sportsbook. The story that businesses like this can work and at the same time sportsbooks can make a lot of money seems too good to be true.

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Maybe it is a good career choice for those who can analyze various matches.
But it's not easy because people who are used to analyzing will not easily believe your consulting offers.
It will take some time before you have many customers who will use your services and as long as you can offer what you are good at and promote, you will get a lot of customers.
Maybe what you should do first is to give trial consultations to the people around you so they can see that you really have the ability to do that.
Over time, more and more people will use your analysis in betting.

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If anybody wishes to make a career out of his/her vast betting experience, I guess he/she has to make sure first that betting isn't just a hobby anymore but a serious business. And one should have sophisticated analytical tools which take into consideration all factors that could play a role in a certain match or game.

I'm sure Starlizard's success can't just be attributed to Tony Bloom's betting experience. Developing all kinds of tools like the one which takes into account even the weather condition must be necessary. And it's not gonna be easy.

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I'm confident with my skillset but no way I will prefer to become like that. That's a profession already that needs your whole lot of time. They have the deep analysis that is something out of the ordinary.

As a consultant and they are not getting good results, the built reputation might be ruined. I just wonder is there really a large number of bettors that used the services of a betting consultant? For a usual and regular sports bettor, I think most of them will just rely on their own knowledge about the leagues while using their own set of criteria and factors.

I also have to disagree with the part where OP stated that consultants can crack the secret code of increasing one's chances of beating the bookies and sportsbooks where in the first place, there is no secret stuff behind those.

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Quote from: Yogee on June 14, 2022, 04:54:12 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 14, 2022, 04:38:22 PM

I don't think that there are secrets though, it's just numbers and statistics that they collected, analyzed and then come up with their predictions and then they sell it to gambling operators.

Yes it's good old fashioned research but they probably have a different set of parameters in determining possible outcomes of a game. It was mentioned in the post that they also consider the weather condition on match day. That's probably something most casual gamblers like me haven't thought about.

It is also said that morale is also part of their "formula". It's not about numbers but I think it's pretty common factor. Most of us refer to it as "momentum".

let us be realistic here also. they can't say that their predictions will always be 100% true. as there are other factors that they may not see. they can use their experiences and other info that they need to come up with a good bet. because if they are totally confident with themselves, they can very much use it to enrich themselves. the stats and other past figures are one of their great resources in coming up their bet. just look at the prediction sites, they usually compare h2h about the past history of the team or the individuals. but it doesn't guarantee that their conclusion will be the winning bet.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 14, 2022, 04:38:22 PM

I don't think that there are secrets though, it's just numbers and statistics that they collected, analyzed and then come up with their predictions and then they sell it to gambling operators.

Yes it's good old fashioned research but they probably have a different set of parameters in determining possible outcomes of a game. It was mentioned in the post that they also consider the weather condition on match day. That's probably something most casual gamblers like me haven't thought about.

It is also said that morale is also part of their "formula". It's not about numbers but I think it's pretty common factor. Most of us refer to it as "momentum".

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Why not, but not if I only have enough experience to run one, it's not an easy job, you have to have years of experience, inside pieces of knowledge of those sports, you have to be fully updated on the sports that you are offering services its a 24/7 job and you really have to love the job to do this, not only to make money for yourself but to help small guys make money and have an insight on those games.

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That requires full determination and perseverance. Those guys didn't achieve that status just easily. You need to be fully dedicated and a sports enthusiast to become like that. And the fact that they are doing it for almost entire of their life, that makes them professional at that business.

But you know, that career needs tons of money at risk. Those professionals aren't just providing an analysis before but they have to prove their winning rate by doing an actual bet and making a good winning portfolio in the long run.

Even though I'm a sports bettor for a long, never in my mind I did consider becoming like that. I'm happy as a usual sports bettor.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 14, 2022, 04:38:22 PM

I don't think that there are secrets though, it's just numbers and statistics that they collected, analyzed and then come up with their predictions and then they sell it to gambling operators.

As far as career though, why not? if it will give you good salary to begin with. Specially if you love numbers and gambling and sports betting. But you have to control yourself though, you shouldn't leaked any data otherwise they will know if something is not right.

Though they're numbers, it isn't an easy thing to do the mathematical analysis along with the different parameters connected to the match. Odds generation needs to be done in a very precise manner. This is what brings money to the house..

Based on the salary getting into the job as gambling consultant is good, but it is the place where you'll get praised when the odds were perfect and blame will be upon you when things go against the suggestion. Joining these platforms will make you a good analyst, not only in gambling industry.

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A career in betting will depend on what position we are in. if we are as a bettor only or as a gambler, I don't think that I am suitable to act it as a career. for, I am not good for betting, I cannot specify what betting sports or activities that I belong to. Additionally, I ma also not sure enough that we can gain profits always. That is why, it is better to make betting or gambling additional side activities where if we gain profits, it will add to our income. But if we are losing, ensure that we are losing no more than we can afford. Just enjoy it as an additional activitiy.
Although I also know that if we focus more on betting and become a professional betting player, I am sure that the result of the income will be high, But I am also aware that it will not be easy,

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I don't think that there are secrets though, it's just numbers and statistics that they collected, analyzed and then come up with their predictions and then they sell it to gambling operators.

As far as career though, why not? if it will give you good salary to begin with. Specially if you love numbers and gambling and sports betting. But you have to control yourself though, you shouldn't leaked any data otherwise they will know if something is not right.

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Looks like an thrilling career to have but no thanks. You'll have to be dealing with a lot of people with shady activities for sure and that's too dangerous for me. One mistake and you could end up bloody in a hospital or in a body bag hehe. I'm good with my own analysis but I would like to be mentored by someone like him to be honest.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 14, 2022, 05:41:13 AM

Just like Tony Bloom and others, it is possible that you can turn your hobby into a profitable business venture if you are confident of your skillsets. Have you ever considered a career in betting consultancy?

Definitely. This is not even new but only just popular if true it is popular. Just as there are people providing trading signals so are people providing sport predictions. But if someone believe these people, the person will only fail.

It is good to avoid anything like this.

I had a friend that was scammed this way in the past. It will be more of means to scam.

Being a betting consultant or tipster will require you to have concrete knowledge about gambling and you should show proof of constant winnings. It's also hard to convince people to trust you because several people have used this title to scam their clients. It's hard to please people nowadays and you should always have supporting proof to be a betting consultant.

People arent dumb on easily believing about these betting consultants or simply as tipsters is should say on where they would just carelessly follow.I cant deny that there are still people
whom do easily believe but majority doesnt really care about their existence if there's one.I dont see the relevance of its existence considering that we could play and make
bets on our come which do came from with our own analysis without the need of paying up someone just for them to do the job.Any consultation aspect or idea
will really be just fitting out with gambling addiction counseling but for making bets? I dont see for it to be that needed.

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Maybe it would be a good works, But also the best way to be scammed. This work should be made in really seriously way and is not so easy to trust someone that do this job.

Anyway, this could work with an Agency, where each users leaves his feedback and a new visitors can choice if follow or not their betting consultant.

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If you're that good at cracking the code of bookies and sportsbooks, do you really need a career in another company? I don't think so, it would have been more profitable if you be a self-employed, use the knowledge to become a millionaire. I even doubt the authenticity of this career, I have not seen anyone close to reality, the ones I see online will have a group instead of a career and give some sure odds that give players a high chance of winning the stake.
There is money in gambling, I don't think it is ideal for anyone to say they are sure of knowing shortcuts in casinos except if that person has an insider, I really have doubt about this career my friend.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 14, 2022, 05:41:13 AM

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Arguably the UK’s most notorious sports bettor, Tony Bloom, is the owner of Starlizard, a company that describes itself as a betting consultancy.

Based out of Camden, London, Starlizard is also the sole adviser for Bloom’s betting syndicate, who every weekend have £1 million riding on any given football game.

This makes Starlizard the biggest betting syndicate in Britain and it is believed they make roughly £100 million a year, but that would be an average year.

Due to the secrecy surrounding the company, little is known about their total earnings, although it’s quite safe to assume it’s in the billions of pounds.

Starlizard’s 160 employees use complex statistical models to generate football odds that are more accurate than those offered by bookmakers. They even take into account the weather forecast and the overall morale of a team!

These ‘sharper’ odds are then sold to their clients so they themselves can beat the market! His much respected advice generates £13.8 million annually from customers.¹

Betting consultants are gurus who have cracked the secret code of increasing one's chances of beating the bookies and sportsbooks. They provide professional betting advice to clients. Betting consultants have the experience, the reputation (they have consistently generated profits for clients over time), the expertise, and the necessary information needed to make the right betting decision. They are not Jack of all trades instead, they have their specialty. Specializing in one or more but not all of the following sports - Football, Baseball, Boxing, Horse Racing, Cricket, Basketball, UFC, Golf, and Motosport at both the professional and other levels. According to ZipRecruiter, the national average salary of a Sports Betting Consultant per year in the US is $69,887. ²

Just like Tony Bloom and others, it is possible that you can turn your hobby into a profitable business venture if you are confident of your skillsets. Have you ever considered a career in betting consultancy?

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1. https://www.tradematesports.com/blog/brighton-football-owner-tony-bloom-people-rich-sports-betting
2. https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Jobs/Sports-Betting-Consultant

It's a bit unusual but I can certainly see a small niche in there - it's where to find the information at the quality they are selling which is the problem. They likely have burned all bridges in trying to monetize it themselves because otherwise they would be making money that way instead of reselling such useful knowledge. They likely target the rich to super rich market, probably an internally kept secret on where to get the hook up that only makes it around members-only type clubs. If the betting companies found out that their clients were using such advanced information they would likely shut down even the highest rolling players if they turn out to be consistent winners draining the sportbook bank account. Always an interesting read on these sort of topics, I remember reading a similar one here about an Australian company doing a similar thing but betting in-house.

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I have never seen any university or institution offering such course as betting consultancy. And I have never seen or heard of any firm offering such services. I am trying to visualize the scope of the job or the duties of a gambling consultant and I can't get many. I think one of their responsibility would be guiding or teaching newly established gambling firm and giving advice to companies or people that want to establish one. I think gambling psychology would be a nice course for me. They would help to control, predict and guide the behavior of gamblers.

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No, I never even thought of it. not only that I rarely bet on sports I also only bet on certain sports, athletes, and teams that I like and to top it off, I am on a negative profit on sports betting.

I agree with ralle14 that it seems like a tough "career" path since they would need to maintain their win rate above 50%(perhaps above 60%) or they would start losing gamblers asking for their tips.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 14, 2022, 05:41:13 AM

Betting consultants are gurus who have cracked the secret code of increasing one's chances of beating the bookies and sportsbooks.

they didn't really crack anything.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on June 14, 2022, 10:11:12 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 14, 2022, 05:41:13 AM

Betting consultants are gurus who have cracked the secret code of increasing one's chances of beating the bookies and sportsbooks.

I could not have said it better than this meme.I don't think these guys exists for real they may be some people really good at marketing and selling you this shit but true gamblers who have a lot of experience have no need for this kind of advice thus making this career irrelevant.

I am a slot player and I don't like any other type of game,how can someone who thinks of himself as a guru will help me to raise my chances of winning when slots are games that rely 100% on luck and I don't want any advice for other games,this makes this career irrelevant and impossible,so that is why I agree 100% with this meme.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on June 14, 2022, 07:13:59 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 14, 2022, 05:41:13 AM

Just like Tony Bloom and others, it is possible that you can turn your hobby into a profitable business venture if you are confident of your skillsets. Have you ever considered a career in betting consultancy?

Definitely. This is not even new but only just popular if true it is popular. Just as there are people providing trading signals so are people providing sport predictions. But if someone believe these people, the person will only fail.

It is good to avoid anything like this.

I had a friend that was scammed this way in the past. It will be more of means to scam.

Being a betting consultant or tipster will require you to have concrete knowledge about gambling and you should show proof of constant winnings. It's also hard to convince people to trust you because several people have used this title to scam their clients. It's hard to please people nowadays and you should always have supporting proof to be a betting consultant.

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