Topic: Have you seen Yobit's new signature design? - page 7. (Read 5751 times)

Stop kidding.
What about your morality?
Yoshit or mixers, what is the difference?
I know many scammers who scammed people by using Bitcoin mixers in our country.
Bitcoin mixers and Yoshit,  both are part of the Bitcoin/Crypto ecosystem.

No matter what one's moral views are, a BTT user should not be penalized for promoting one of the most well known crypto exchanges.

Many crypto exchanges are engaging in unethical practices like fake volume, pump & dump schemes, shitcoin IEO's, etc. and yet they are still highly popular because they also manage to fulfill some really valuable duties like market efficiency and liquidity.

As numerous users have already noted, an analogy can be drawn between promoting Chipmixer and Yobit's InvestBox:

you can choose to be a smart investor and use Investbox to make 0.1% on your BTC monthly without ever investing in any of the shit coins, or you may choose to be a gambler and pursue some short term wild gains in the massively inflated shitcoins (similarly Chipmixer service can be used for illicit activites, yet the marketer cannot and should not be held accountable for a potential abuse of a service that has other net benefits to the ecosystem)...

I agree the wording of the signature can be revised to be more honest, but trying to frame hundreds of Cryptotalk / Yobit participants would be one of the most harmful things this forum can do to herself and its user base...

It seems that Yobit will be the next big heist of Bitcoin, and users are too distracted about earning money to realize.

Well, at least this discussion has opened our eyes to the users who have morals, and those that are willing to lie down their morals for gain. The moderators, and Yahoo's opinion matter not, and even theymos' doesn't matter on this particular issue. However, what you decide for yourself does matter.

You either choose to continue earning a good living with Yobit's shenanigans or you keep your respect. I don't think you can keep both. Also, no one here is blaming Yahoo, and I'm not sure why users are even mentioning that fact. No one here is calling out Yahoo. Its quite clear that Yobit have terrible customer support, and communication even with someone they have hired.

Considering that its a law to offer customer support here in the UK, and they are willing to put that so low on their priority list speaks volumes. The whole company is unprofessional, and all they care about is earning a quick buck as evidenced by this InvestBox shit.

Are you guys not concerned how they have operated by dropping this investment scheme on their campaign manager without Yahoo being notified? They have directly put Yahoo's reputation under the microscope because if we didn't know better we would have been asking a lot more questions instead of defending Yahoo. If I was Yahoo, I'd be extremely pissed off with how they've suddenly dropped a new project which Yahoo doesn't agree with, and have acted like its no big deal.

As for Yobits exchange. You may have had a positive experience with them, but the company has shown that they are willing to operate a  shitty project on the side, and by that indication I personally recommend you don't support it, and stop using their exchange as well.

Their whole operation would not be allowed to operate in several countries due to the way they go about business. I've mentioned that its a requirement for businesses to offer customer support, but it seems that they barely offer that. I can't believe how lazy they've been in announcing a new "project" with InvestBox, and all they initially gave was a paragraph saying its not a scam, and there's a special fund where everyone is 100% getting paid. That is ridiculous.

I disagree completely. It does matter. Your morals should come before anything, and earning money, and advertising this scam is going to hurt a lot of users in the future.

Oh dude, just don't write such things, it looks too pitty. If someone says to me in real life "the money is irrelevant/doesn't matter/this is just a paper" i mostly ask him to give me all his money. For now, noone agreed to do such things  


It's a funny story:
My cooworker was from India. And one day, after teambuilding picnic we washed our plates. He looks a bit confused, and i asked him if it the first time when he washed something by himself. He answered "Yes, in India my family have service staff which is in fact another poor family and we pay them 1.5 dollars per day"

Maybe not he best way to tell about all India, but i doubt that 200 dollars in nothing in all India. Maybe in Deli or something like that it is not money, but in other part of country.


Ok, i understand you  

Did I tell you to gamble the money you made?

Maybe Russia isn't best example, but my post was response to post above, that if legally operating exchange would do such things like Yobit do, their owners would be imprisoned. But in reality, in Russia nobody knows who is owners of Yobit.
And I don't see people butthurting about legal status of Yobit. It's all about shady things they are doing.

You forgot to say, 15%/week plan, the minimum investment is 50BTC.
I'm very curious who is so brave to send that amount of money to Yobit.


I have one suggestion for you. Invest your weekly profit from Yobit signature in his InvestBox and write here your personal experience.

It is not hypocrisy because you aren't being criticized simply for wearing a signature. You are being criticized for wearing the signature of a scam.

I'm sick of the hypocrisy of people. Let them see what they have. But I want to put hypocrisy in their faces. Don't let the gambler, the sex site, the mixer come and teach me morals.

I understand your point but don't you think you're somehow taking this too far and the conclusive message posted by Yahoo about this kind of situations is that "Attacking everyone wearing a signature is not the correct route to go here man. "

For last couple of month Yobit related topic has been so common and there is no way to deny that every time issues are creating due to the activity of Yobit authority. Many of our community members already shared their own thought about Yobit and their new creation "INVESTBOX". I dont think there is much left to describe but i think we should come to an conclusion for the regular rising issue of "Yobit". We shouldn't underestimate the decision of forum admin  theymos who have already banned Yobit previous signature campaign and as a result lots of participants were banned too. After some days they came with another way to run "cryptotalk (Yobit panel)" signature campaign and this time luckily they got one of the popular campaign manager (Yahoo62278) to take their management work. Most interesting thing is that this time their planning wasn't too far from their old campaign. Anyone can understand that they were trying to make big amount of posts per day by using a big number of participants. Although their campaign manager Yahoo62278 took some necessary steps to stop spamming and tracing shit posters and undoubtedly it wasn't too easy to control the whole things.  

Personally i don't think it was a bad decision to take their campaign management work but after having Yobit new feature of "INVESTBOX" its time to rethink again. Yeah its true that there is some ongoing campaign who have negative feedback on their official account but i think matter of "Yobit" is kinda different from others. There is lot more crypto related platforms who are running live campaign on bitcointalk and most of their participant selection & range of available slots is nearly simillar but Yobit was different from everyone and still same. Already "Darkstar" described the whole investment process of Yobit's new creation "Investbox" and i am agree with his description.

Best part is that the word "Yobit" has been the mostly used and common for last couple of month and its an automatic promotion which needs no weekly payment.  

Yes, the two can't be compare and i believe everybody on this forum understand how gambling site done their activities. Besides, the last time i checked they recognized by some governments.


I don't support their investment nor work for them but we still can't be sure if they are lying when they said "investment is 100% safe" and i think we should wait for their representative respond to last question asked by Yahoo about the initial investment.

Reading this thread and some other threads I see some users arguing is 10% daily (or whatever they are offering) ponzi or not, well, if it looks like a duck swims like a duck and quacks like a duck then it probably is ponzi. Someone who is wearing "buy x10 and get 10% daily" is directly advertising pyramid scheme, question to campaign manager @yahoo what makes X10 better than arbitao? What makes it better than bitconnect or any other scam coin? Really nothing. And to be honest, I couldn't find any info about this token, it is like they are selling air under the name X10, and promising 10% more oxygen daily.

Let me share a real story.
I was hired by 0xDark for managing their telegram community. After working with them for the 1st week, I realized they are shady. I have quit the job although they were paying me good amount, more than 3x of my current pays of Venapi telegram community management.
They had the same also, investbox in Yobit. The truth is, they dumped their coin in the face of its investors. Created the hype by offering this investbox rewards.
What I have understood, this investbox is a mutual agreement of the scam project owner and Yobit to scam beginner level investors money. Yobit make money, DEV of the project make money, investors get fucked.

The yobit investbox is a problem because the community doesn't like and even hates ponzi schemes. I'm not saying that the investbox yobit is Ponzi, because I didn't do the testing. Anyone who wants to promote ponzi then he will have severe consequences which usually accounts will be given redtrus as a sign that the ponzi scheme is prohibited and also not liked by the public. What about gambling, gambling has caused harm to many people, there is even quite a lot of news stating that gamblers are arrested for not paying off debts, killing for money, poor because they run out of money all because of gambling and there are also cases of suicide due to gambling. How can it be approved in this forum? could I called gambling site with scheme and more dangerous than investbox, with Gambling you can loss your money one second.

Because gambling sites openly state what their odds and house edge are. YoBit is promising impossible risk free returns. The two are not comparable.

The money is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if it's a dollar a day or one hundred dollars a day - these users are promoting a scam.

I don't buy this. So we're saying that these users are quite happy to promote a scam, unless they think it might get them banned? This is not trustworthy behavior.

Two problems with this. Firstly, they do indeed offer 15% weekly returns on BTC (see my previous post). Secondly, they say your investment is "100% safe", which is categorically a lie if they are paying you in worthless tokens they print out of thin air which you can never sell.

Initial investment, isn't it?


I tried out there BTC investment (monthly interest which require no holding of any altcoin since it like staking my BTC for sometime and i believed it pretty save since i won't be pay with altcoin). However, still can't provide the right answer now though but we have to wait for the Yobit respond about the safety of investors initial investment.

Maybe the opinions of Yahoo or mods don't matter much but what theymos thinks definitely have value here. Last time when he decided to stop Yobit campaign, nor Yobit nor do the participants were able to do anything. But last time ban on campaign was more inclined by the spamming and not the reputation of YoBit. However, this time Yahoo is maintaining the quality up to certain degree. So it also brings Yahoo's opinion into mix to some degree.

If Yahoo decides to leave quality moderation, this will again initiate uncontrolled spamming. Such campaign abusing may again trigger Theymos to ban the campaign.

I personally think Yobit's investbox is different from HYIP upto certain degree. They are promising returns in respective coin (not Bitcoin or USD conversion) and surely paying the return. But on the moral grounds, it is still wrong to lure readers to click and invest in something which have very-high probability of getting dumped eventually. But we forum members aren't that moral or are we?


I don't know which India did you check but no one here works for 1-2 dollars a day. This amount is too low to even survive in India. Minimum wages for unskilled labors here is $5-7. Also $50 a week or $200/month is not at all a good amount. When converted to INR, it comes out to be 14K Indian Rupee which could hardly cover your rent, food, conveyance/vehicle fuel and children's school fees for the month.

Gambling sites don't claim to be 100% safe: