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Topic: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) - page 186. (Read 565837 times)

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Have you never seen "When Bots Go Bad"?  All of the biggest flash crashes in history have been caused by bots.
ALL of the biggest flash crashes?

Please name me one that is confirmed to be caused by bots. The last time i checked wikipedia there was still discussion whether the 2010 flash crash was caused by bots or fat fingers.

I personally have quite a bit of knowledge about the algorithms used in trading bots. I run my own trading bots on multiple exchanges, including havelock (configured to trade only neo&bee stocks). And although the idea of 'war bots' is cool, it isn't practical without A) extensive knowledge of where everybody put their stop losses or B) extensive knowledge about the exact algorithms of other bots.
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Bots do not mess with prices. Bots add liquidity to the market and reduce the bid-ask spread.
Roll Eyes

Have you never seen "When Bots Go Bad"?  All of the biggest flash crashes in history have been caused by bots.
And some of those were likely intentional so someone could profit off the crash and then the recovery.
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So is this an eternal loop kinda thing where the price of shares goes up towards Friday and drops down during the weekend?
Possibly until the mine is fully deployed..
I feel like its gonna start to head up past .07 since the divs are going to be steadily increasing if we keep getting more hashrate every 2 weeks at least
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Bots do not mess with prices. Bots add liquidity to the market and reduce the bid-ask spread.
Roll Eyes

Have you never seen "When Bots Go Bad"?  All of the biggest flash crashes in history have been caused by bots.
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Not many people are aware of PETA mine at the moment as well as  others might not trust Havelock investment as a company to hold their investment. Those 2 factors alone contribute to the current share price. As well as , currently 1 share granting 1.85 GH/s at the moment (40ish $) which is rather pricy.
People claiming that SP is already high and will drop down, would be right if PETA would fail to deploy 700TH/s and to keep up with an increasing difficulty.
However, this is the worst scenario. In the best scenario where PETA reaches and maintains 1% of all Bitcoin network, the current share price is too little.

Another important factor, if  the dividend % increases every week, SP is bound to increase.
Some say, that people would dump shares after the SP goes up and yes, this would happen, but there is always 2 people in the trade!

In my eyes, the current SP does not represent the real PETA value (assuming PETA will full-fill the  promises). Which I tend to view as a positive factor, because it allows me to accumulate shares at  a low price, before PETA  is cool Smiley

Peace!

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So is this an eternal loop kinda thing where the price of shares goes up towards Friday and drops down during the weekend?
Possibly until the mine is fully deployed..

That seems like a recurring sequence then but been a while since I've been in this thread can someone sum it up nicely
It's a sequence, but not towards Fridays - price of shares go up when there is new hardware deployed. More than a few days of no new hardware, and the price goes down.
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So is this an eternal loop kinda thing where the price of shares goes up towards Friday and drops down during the weekend?
Possibly until the mine is fully deployed..

That seems like a recurring sequence then but been a while since I've been in this thread can someone sum it up nicely
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So is this an eternal loop kinda thing where the price of shares goes up towards Friday and drops down during the weekend?
Possibly until the mine is fully deployed..
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This is the most important part.
Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure.
If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.


Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty!
Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you!

How is it disingenuous?
Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell.
You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument.
I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges.

No you refuse to allow logic and commonsense invade your cognitive dissonance.
I never said that the share price was a sure thing.
What I said was it was a bad assumption on your part to assume a severe drop in price right after dividends have been paid.
BIG BIG Difference. It is obvious that you have no clue how stocks and other commodities are priced.
You have take many many factors into account when your dealing with investments, and with vehicles such as petamine that pay a dividend, it is likely that the price will stay steady, outside of the bots screwing with the price, or someone intentionally painting the tape.
You sound just like the type that flog bad investments to vulnerable people from boilerrooms. "it is likely that the price will stay steady" gives you away for the idiot or miscreant you are.
Are we trading on 1920s wallstreet here?
Do you have any idea how stockbrokers/moneymanagers actually work?
They are given a stock to pump and they do so by getting their clients to buy in, when they get enough people to buy in, the firm sells the shares they are holding and leave the clients holding the bag. These practices are actually legal if done properly.

Looking at what the next 30 days should hold for peta, based on what they have done already, getting in at the current .07btc is a hell of a deal.

Why do you have to resort to name calling?
OH, yeah I know why, because you are out of your depths and instead of educating yourself, you play bully to cover up your lack of knowledge.
I suggest you look up the following authors for a start, victor sperandeo and stan weinstein. They provide a great starting place for those looking to trade stocks/commodities/etc.
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Question, as I'm fairly new to trading. When some of you refer to "Bots" messing with prices and such, what do you mean by this? How can anyone control the prices when it depends on who is selling... just trying to understand. Thanks.
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So is this an eternal loop kinda thing where the price of shares goes up towards Friday and drops down during the weekend?
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Those that are hyper-fixated on the price of a share of PETA and that fact that it is too low, and that it should go up etc. should stop trying to convince others to buy more shares and perhaps buy some shares yourselves. If your assessment tells you the current price is such a bargain then it would be foolish not to. As a minimum you could put some large orders to buy shares on the Bid side; there is no depth on the Bid side if you look on Havelock:

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=PETA

You all are making it patently obvious that you wish the price to go up so that you can unload shares and get all your dividends at once.

Personally I do not care what the price of a share of PETA is as I believe that CryptX is doing an excellent job, and that I will get my value back through the dividends as time goes on. If there was more depth on the Bid side that would encourage me and others to buy more shares from the Ask side. Common guys put your money where your mouth is.
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whatever you think about him personally doesn't make up for the fact he is 100% correct. People arn't going to sell there shares just because the dividend has been paid; on the contrary, if we keep increasing dividends per week the share price should bubble up soon before settling down at a level much higher than it is currently

-protip from a very successful daytrader

+1 and protip verified.
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12 hours   146.52 Th/s   1473702032
3 hours   151.93 Th/s   382040720
22.5 minutes   150.64 Th/s   47350752
256 seconds   157.40 Th/s   9381985
128 seconds   174.61 Th/s   5203883

hashrate keeps pumping upto 174 then back down to 138 or so??
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This is the most important part.
Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure.
If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.


Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty!
Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you!

How is it disingenuous?
Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell.
You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument.
I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges.

No you refuse to allow logic and commonsense invade your cognitive dissonance.
I never said that the share price was a sure thing.
What I said was it was a bad assumption on your part to assume a severe drop in price right after dividends have been paid.
BIG BIG Difference. It is obvious that you have no clue how stocks and other commodities are priced.
You have take many many factors into account when your dealing with investments, and with vehicles such as petamine that pay a dividend, it is likely that the price will stay steady, outside of the bots screwing with the price, or someone intentionally painting the tape.
You sound just like the type that flog bad investments to vulnerable people from boilerrooms. "it is likely that the price will stay steady" gives you away for the idiot or miscreant you are.

whatever you think about him personally doesn't make up for the fact he is 100% correct. People arn't going to sell there shares just because the dividend has been paid; on the contrary, if we keep increasing dividends per week the share price should bubble up soon before settling down at a level much higher than it is currently

-protip from a very successful daytrader
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This is the most important part.
Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure.
If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.


Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty!
Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you!

How is it disingenuous?
Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell.
You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument.
I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges.

No you refuse to allow logic and commonsense invade your cognitive dissonance.
I never said that the share price was a sure thing.
What I said was it was a bad assumption on your part to assume a severe drop in price right after dividends have been paid.
BIG BIG Difference. It is obvious that you have no clue how stocks and other commodities are priced.
You have take many many factors into account when your dealing with investments, and with vehicles such as petamine that pay a dividend, it is likely that the price will stay steady, outside of the bots screwing with the price, or someone intentionally painting the tape.
You sound just like the type that flog bad investments to vulnerable people from boilerrooms. "it is likely that the price will stay steady" gives you away for the idiot or miscreant you are.
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So we are now in week 13, and we are starting to deploy week 10's 55 Coincraft rigs. A little delay I should say. Meanwhile it's about the time to deploy 250 TH/s custom hardware which should happen in week 13~15. If all these Coincraft rigs and custom hardware deployment happen in these 3 weeks, PETA' hashrate would be explosively growth. Though it only happens in a very optimistic way.
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Well hello there!
Bring on the hash baby!! Smiley
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This is the most important part.
Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure.
If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.


Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty!
Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you!

How is it disingenuous?
Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell.
You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument.
I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges.

No you refuse to allow logic and commonsense invade your cognitive dissonance.
I never said that the share price was a sure thing.
What I said was it was a bad assumption on your part to assume a severe drop in price right after dividends have been paid.
BIG BIG Difference. It is obvious that you have no clue how stocks and other commodities are priced.
You have take many many factors into account when your dealing with investments, and with vehicles such as petamine that pay a dividend, it is likely that the price will stay steady, outside of the bots screwing with the price, or someone intentionally painting the tape.
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This is the most important part.
Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure.
If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.


Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty!
Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you!

How is it disingenuous?
Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell.
You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument.
I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges.
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