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Topic: Having a post locked temporarily vs having it deleted immediately (Read 253 times)

legendary
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All of your suggestions increase the workload of the moderators. Instead of deleting the post and being done with the subject, they would have to lock it first and then delete or "unlock" it at a later time. It adds no benefit to the forum. If a post is a shitpost, breaks forum rules and adds no benefit today, it's not going to change tomorrow or one month from now. Piling up shitposts in a separate sub-board is also not something that would benefit anyone. Shitposters don't care. They will be busy shitposting if they aren't banned in the meantime, and normal users won't waste their time reading that.
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum and I can't dictate for the moderators and admins, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?
Certain threads ought to be removed right away because they might be harmful if left up for a while. A thread containing scams could fool a novice if it is not removed right away. They shouldn't just be locked but discarded to avoid people accessing them. Posts on the forum that propagate false information ought to be removed. Every day, a large number of people visit this forum, so it must be free of inappropriate material. Deleting the post should be a warning to such members, and further punishment can follow if such actions are repeated.
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If someone has their post deleted they will get a message that quotes their deleted post. This will give them enough context to know what they did wrong so that they will not make the same mistake again. Posts that get deleted are usually some kind of spam, whether it’s referral marketing spam, AI spam, or incoherent gibberish. It provides no real value to the forum to leave these posts visible, even if they are moved to a separate section. By the time moderators act on a report, those posts may have been around for a while already so it is better to just delete them as soon as they have read the report and clean up the forum.
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum and I can't dictate for the moderators and admins, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?
I observed something about repeated post, not everyone will make use of the search option and I see no reason keeping shit post just because others should not repeat same post. Few users still repeat questions asked without noticing someone else created same topic so i don’t think this can help, I understand the point clearly but, I don’t think this can help rather we avoid any form of shit posting.


Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
Creating a space for shitpost is not necessary tho it’s similar as off topic space, it sounds like a duplicate meanwhile the rule still stands. Why not inform a user about repeated topic then let mods do their duty, the only stress here shows a user post will be deleted.
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For the moderators to delete a post here, it means such a post is either promoting spamming, scams or it generally adds no value to the forum. There is no point creating a separate board for shit posts or locking such posts because it is of no use. We need to constantly appreciate the moderators of this forum for their efforts in making sure that this forum remains clean and sane always. Anyone who is aggrieved about the deletion of his work should work on his writing skills so such doesn't repeat again.
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isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?

It all depend on the content of the post, if a post is being locked, then its either a low quality content or the content had been discussed already, sometimes we can also discover that some threads were being moved to the appropriate board required.

But in case of deleted post, such occurs in some cases whereby the content were either spamming, shitposting or found with a malicious content that could be aiming for a possible attack or scam, the moderators are used to all these, when they sight any, they already know what to do accordingly.

Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later,

This is like doing a single work twice and there is no need for such stress or long process.

or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?

Why spare a low quality content or spam post, for what reference? such are to be deleted ASAP to let the OP know what he is doing is not allowed.
legendary
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum and I can't dictate for the moderators and admins, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?

Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?

If a thread has any value they will usually be locked but if it's a shit thread full of shit posts then the trashcan is where it should go. People shouldn't be allowed just to post crap on them to get paid and it's only the worse of the worst threads that go straight into the can. If a person sees a thread that is low quality or has descended into a spam fest they should be weary of posting in it.
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Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later,
There is stress of moderation. Moderators even find it difficult to handle reports sent to them because they obviously have their personal life also to deal with. Now imagine instead of moderating once and delete the spam, you save it for later action when there are alot of unhandled report.

or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
Arranging similar shit posts in a separate board means to move it to off topic board, it's happening already. Doing this for spammers not to create similar topic is not effective because spammers don't use the search button.
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Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?

Why? So that the shit poster can get paid from the campaign for the word salad they generated?
What is the point of creating this thread? What point you are trying to make? If you have some valid point against why moderators should not delete a shit post, I would have a look and see if it's worth reading.

All I can see, you wanted to present those shit posts as an example for others. But when people create thousands of posts each day, these locked threads will get older, and no one notices them at some point because I don't think people check the next page when they visit a certain board.

Many threads are worth reading, and most of them are not on the first page due to the inactivity of those threads and the number of new threads created every day. I don't think you meant to gather them all in one thread and pin them on a board so everyone can see the example of shit posts.
legendary
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Based on the OP's suggestion, shouldn't that recent spam posting that was aimed at users have been deleted for the sake of one idiot who wanted to hurt everyone? Did I understand that correctly, OP?

I sometimes report an unnecessary topic to the moderators, and the moderators, seeing how some users actively respond to such a topic, simply block it. I would say that this is also a good red flag for the one who created the useless topic to think about their topics in the future.
In addition, the forum should not coddle those who do not respect others. This is not kindergarten. Now is a very active time for people to understand that no one owes them anything anywhere. You and only you create yourself.
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum and I can't dictate for the moderators and admins, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?
If it goes to scam post or shit post, then there is no necessary to store or filter them. Because such type of post will never add any value to the forum.


Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and   later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
No, this proposal has no significant value I think. If such type of post arise, then we should avoid and it's annoying. Rather than it is better to clean the low quality post to avoid the possible scam.
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or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
The thread starter should be aware that their post was deleted, even if they do not get a system message to that effect and that should be a deterrent to making such posts. If they do not notice that a whole thread they created can no longer be accessed they will not notice it getting moved to a separate board or locking it for a while.

If others do not see that type of post anywhere on a board, that should be a pointer not to make similar posts.

The problem of most thread starters that create shit post usually doesn’t revisit their thread once they created it. Most of the time the thread was deleted without being notice or they just notice it when they didn’t qualify for the post quota on signature campaign because the thread was deleted without notification.



I partly agree about temporary lock especially on thread that was deleted on gambling board. Some topic there was deleted even though it’s really a gambling related topic and which is more suitable than sports discussion but in general I agree that shit post should be deleted immediately.
legendary
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or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
The thread starter should be aware that their post was deleted, even if they do not get a system message to that effect and that should be a deterrent to making such posts. If they do not notice that a whole thread they created can no longer be accessed they will not notice it getting moved to a separate board or locking it for a while.

If others do not see that type of post anywhere on a board, that should be a pointer not to make similar posts.
hero member
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Many of reported posts weren't quickly being taking care, if the moderators need to move the post/topic before it's get deleted, there would be many of spam/scam/off thread everywhere because it will be slower than now.

If you think your idea is for awareness, I think people already learn it from experience.

Just like users who're in casino campaign, they will review how many posts they've created especially in gambling board or they will not get paid for not enough post. This make them learn to not posting in that kind thread in order to meet quota campaign or learn what kind of topic that may moved to off topic.
legendary
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum and I can't dictate for the moderators and admins, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?

Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
Report is what you can do.

If you see a shit topic, including a OP, you can report it to moderators. The shit topic will be trashed including all posts in that topic. You don't need to report all posts in that topic.

If you see a shit post, report it to moderator, it will be checked and deleted accordingly.

If you report a shit topic to moderators, they will not lock it and let it there for several days before deleting it. It does not take too much time for moderators to assess a thread is shit one and delete it immediately.
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Why should shit post be locked ?? once it's identified  and confirmed, it's   should be deleted immediately... besides, unless it's a thread it can't be locked, posts under a thread can't be locked and the thread cannot be locked just  because of a single or multiple shit posts under it  so deleting it is the best way to tackle it and at the same time, some post might just be a mistake (maybe double posting, I've  experienced that too..).
I believe there's always a message for every post deleted (don't know if that still functions though).
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum and I can't dictate for the moderators and admins, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?
The moderators know what they are doing. Anyone who feels that their posts that were deleted is not supposed to be , should created a to dispute them. And who knows maybe the topic may be allowed to be reposted.
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Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
I don't think this is necessary. The moderators are already overwhelmed and doing this is a long process. The reminder is the pain of having your post deleted or locked so that you can review and not do what will make your topics locked or deleted.
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum and I can't dictate for the moderators and admins, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?

Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
I think as far as low quality posts and threads is concern, the admin have the best solution for now because the subject of low quality shit posts is  based in n individual a d the message it carries, because while some of those posts are deleted automatically, we still ha e those that the topic get locked but not temporary locked though.

Deleting a topic now have to do with the content of the topic, take for example, the current spam attack by new accounts who constantly keep creating shit topic all with same write up if such a thread isn't deleted automatically it going to create a mess around even it their locked, so the admin are doing their best as far as posts quality measures is concerned in this forum.
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You mean shit topics that are worth deleting. It is better the thread is removed once and for all. This will make the forum clean than to make the boards to be full of shit topics.
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I know shit post are meant to be tracked and fizzled out of this forum, but for improvement sake and a possible prevention of a repeat of such post, isn't it better for administrators to just lock the post for awhile, rather than delete it immediately?
Those threads are immediately archive in ninjastic.space or in loyce.club. so if its meant to be deleted, then it should be deleted.

Or isn't it more appropriate for administrators to apply any of the options of which includes to either lock the post for a while and delete later, or arrange similar shit posts into a separate board and delete later, so as it acts as a reminder to others and to the creator of such post on the kind of post not to make and present?
There are scenario that threads are just locked instead of deleting it. One is being serve its purpose, like questions asked where answered already and OP forgot to lock it then people keep repeating what had been said.
Spam, malware goes to deletion, off topic goes to off topic board, and the rest get locked.
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