Topic: Help me raise $500 for DEFCAD (The guys who make the 3D printable AR15 magazine) (Read 1214 times)

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DEFCAD.com seeks Bitcoin Funding.

Yes, I agree, It's a pity that tyrants and criminals can use weapons. Perhaps we should ban government employees -especially soldiers - from having... what was that you called them... "fucking assault rifles."

Good idea!

 

"The right to buy weapons is the right to be free" - A. E. van Vogt

The only way to attain true freedom is through a spiritual revolution.

Right....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/14/why-is-department-homeland-security-buying-so-many-bullets/

Only criminals would need that many bullets.

Wait. Maybe you have a point there.

Actually I'm GermanPolishFrench and have been doubting for a little more than the last 38 years the need for anyone to wield a fucking assault rifle (because that is what is this about).

Americans, president said "guns bad" and everyone now is like "omg you want to print weapons nonono"

Look, it's obvious we disagree about the topic of gun control, but their goal is to prevent censorship of 3D printing models.  Some of those are firearm related, yes.  But the idea that they are proposing is a repository for 3D models with zero censorship.  It's not a repo for gun parts, it's a repo for any 3D models that thingiverse doesn't like and takes down.

Maybe we can just agree to disagree on this?

2 crazies in a basement trying to outfit people with more easy ways to efficiently shoot lots of other people is not "an organization"

My "idea" was reaching out to a community that is against government intervention in most cases, and has some extra cash on hand due to the recent rise in the price of BTC.  I understand your point of view, but you still don't have to be such a douche about it.  Donating through me or donating directly is exactly the same from a donator's point of view - either way the coins go to DEFCAD.  The only difference is that you would be helping another member of the bitcoin community (me) get a job.  

I understand that your specific case is different Mike, because you already donated to them.  I'm not asking anyone to "donate again just to help me!".  

Sorry for being such a "leech" on the community.  Sorry I'm a terrible person for trying to help an organization whose ideas I believe in (DEFCAD) while also helping myself.  I won't post ideas here anymore.

I am not an American, and I think the near daily food scandals in China where there is little regulation would disagree with your analysis.

Food doesn't need to be regulated by government; the government is a collective whore and the FDA doesn't give two shits if factories are up to standard, so long as they're paid well.  Why can the people not regulate the food?  For example:  Bill ate a bad cheeseburger.  The meat was tainted.  The supplier of the meat was Company X.  Bill lets his colleagues know not to buy from Company X because they produce tainted meat, for their conditions for the meat are bad.  Company X goes out of business because they're not getting any business with their tainted meat; or, they improve the quality of their meat, and attempt to keep going with what they're going.

What's the government doing that people can't?  Right: making decisions for you.  If Company X made bad meat CONSISTENTLY (and they do, if you've been keeping up with the antics of the food industry), and they lobbied to stay in business and stay in supermarkets, why should Company X care about cleaner food conditions?  They shouldn't.  They don't want to, because cleanliness costs money, and profits need to be maximized.  It's a lot cheaper to buy a politician than the route I described earlier.  This leads to a severe decrease in quality goods.  This is the government to which you refer (I assume; sorry if you're not an American), and there is no scenario in a capitalistic society in which money does not apply.  To regulate anything is to regulate money.

You have regulation on the manufacture of weapons for the same reason you have regulation on food standards, its a safety issue and is in no way comparable to regulation and the control of money and currency.

Actually, I do, because your idea is non-existent.  I've already donated to this cause.  I'm not donating so you can fool someone else into thinking you're innovative.

There have already been numerous posts about DEFCAD on this site.  Nobody spreading the word before was asking for help to land them a job.  And why should I give you any ideas?  You've got an agenda to follow, and that agenda is, "Gotta get that job."  You're a few steps above leech.  If I have any ideas, I'll be sure to let the folks at DEFCAD know that it wasn't you who made them.

Not really. They both come down to the reality that it's immoral for some people to use force and threats to tell other people what to do.

What you can do with your money and what you can manufacture without regulation are 2 completely different things.

lol, true that.

Bitcoin was made with the goal of preventing some people from telling other people what they can and can't do with their money.

I certainly hope that bitcoin wasn't made with the goal of providing unrestricted access to weapons.