Topic: [HELP ON REFUND] WRONGLY SENT $1000 worth of BTC to copper member payment addres (Read 1408 times)

Owl give you the same advice.  Owl of the sudden it seems like it's time to close the barn door on this thread before it becomes a real free-for-owl.  If people wanted to keep talking about it though, I'm owl ears.  Following this tail has been a real hoot.  Owl always be glad to read stories like this having a happy ending.  Next time make sure to double check your sending addresses instead of trying to wing it.  A mistake like this could have led to someone getting their talons into your coins.  Stay wise. 

He's one of the best newbie I've seen based on the amount of merit he's received for just one post. EZ0010 managed to get 250 merit "senior member requirements" in one viral post in late 2021. He has built a good reputation for his account simply because of his honest attitude, it's a great return from the community for someone who knows what it's like to lose money on a bad mistake unintentional.

Like you said, if EZ0010 wants to rank up then he has to post more and have enough activity. If he was a quality poster then it was not impossible that he would get 500 merit or 1000 merit for the requirement to rank up to Legendary.

OP, since your problem is solved then I suggest closing this thread. Not to discourage spammers "I'm sure spammers don't dare mess around here", but it's because your problem is solved.

Best advice,

I believe user EZ0010 will easily pass as the first newbie to have risen to a Snr ranked member on the forum in less than a month of being truly active on the forum with just 5 posts. Congratulations! The harder part of the job has already been done for you. All you need now are activities and post count to match it up.

A bad example is contagious.
We create the world around us by our actions. If actions give rise to lies, deception, mistrust, etc., then this only multiplies the negative.

Stories like this are a great example of the fact that everything is in our hands and we need to treat each other the way we want them to treat us. The participants in the events described above remain a vivid example of this.


Decency and honesty are not tied to the nation and are international. It is in such actions as yours that these qualities are manifested.

"A bad example is contagious." Let me add to this that good examples encourage to do the same. I am sure that EZ0010's actions impressed many here and inspired them to take positive actions.

Belief in the humanity of the community grows stronger after reading this topic. User comments contribute to this too.

~$4 per merit, money well spent.

I'M KIDDING! IT'S A JOKE!!! $4 is too much for a merit, you guys gotta send more merits.


This forum is brimful of scammers so your action stands out and that's a good thing (your thing... not the scammers). Too often we take honesty for granted but discuss fraud and lies and other garbage at length.

Please accept my respect. Your words, this is exactly what I wrote earlier about simple human behavior. It's nice to hear that you just talk about your act, because judging by the reviews, for some, your act was comparable to a feat.

Stay in the forum. In fact, you shook up the forum, and probably everyone, while writing their posts in this thread, asked themselves how they would act in this situation.

We will not use a lot of pretentious words, but if your example serves to reassess life among those present at the forum, perhaps we will see many similar examples in the future.

My regards

Totally agree, I just saw someone here asking where I'm from Lol but I'm with you I believe every nation has its bad and good people.

We all should be same of you regardless of our religion. No human can be a fraud. People were surprised because most of the times, chances is most joining the forum are scammer as currently we can see that. A lot of people are joining the forum, building reputation and then scamming other people. So, certainly you are different from them, you deserve that appreciation.

We reacted overwhelmingly the way we did because the present world has been literally taken over by immorality, lies, deceits and all manners of wickedness. If this same incident had happened in 1986 or 1996, believe me, no one would've baited an eyelid. You did well as you didn't allow the temptation of greed overcome your action. After all, you had nothing to lose as a newbie if you had absconded and ceased to post here any more and I think that's where that element of surprise of you returning the cash came from among users here. Kudos!

Ideally, yes we don't have to find any reason for being good. Being good should be a way of life. But the sad reality is that we only can give what we have. An immoral mind can't exhume morality. The user was able to return the $1000 because he didn't know how NOT to return it. He acted on his conscience.

Astonishing, and you got some rewards for being who you are which is highest merit per post ratio which is 55:1 if I am not wrong.

We don't need a reason to be good, if we are looking for a reason to be good then its not actually who you/we are. Kudos brother!

Thanks everyone for your kind words, and yes I used a VPN while I was creating my account and I had to pay something like 1$ or 3$ I sent 10$ by mistake and contacted support and theymos refunded me.

I've been reading Bitcoin news since 2013 and started using it in 2016 but didn't have Bitcointalk account, bought first bitcoin in 2017, then really got into Bitcoin from the technical level in 2020, I even used some of the 1000$ theymos sent me by mistake to open a lightning channel on my LN node and I told him when he contacted me I don't have all of the on-chain funds I can send him from LN since I opened some channels and can't close them as it would affect my node rating, thanks to him he let me keep some of the funds as a gift and send the rest.

As for my reaction to the accident and returning the money, tbh and I really mean it, I didn't expect people on this thread to be surprised by my action! I thought this is logical action, the money isn't mine even if I got it and no one knows and I'm totally anonymous I still can't take someone else's money as they don't belong to me and I'm not the rightful owner.

Also I really know how it feels to lose money due to human error, I did it many times, especially nowadays with lighting network you have to keep a backup of your node constantly I lost some funds because I didn't care about the backup and formatted my hard drive by mistake.

They have portrayed bitcoin in the negative sense from the previous time when it was used in Silk Road but were there not any criminal activities past 2009? It's actually the people who use them and currency is not itself good or bad but how it is being used but the people who still believes Governments and banking houses can easily come across these statements which says btc is bad and other bullshit but those who understands bitcoin at the root levels know it's life saver.Moreover they say it's anonymous but it's pseudo anonymous which means the they can track transactions to some extent unlike Monero but the problem very few cares to listen.Such cases where people get Bitcoin back are not good for any media houses and news channel who only runs after publicity and profits but we as forum members appreciate this kind efforts from theymos and our newbie hero who proves it with his decency human kindness can dilute all the false claims.Happy for @OP as well that he recieved his funds back.

You have a golden heart man and just recently bumped across this topic and was amazed to see this happening because I have seen or say come across some situations in which the people have enough to enjoy their life and whenever some kind of this human error arises they never return them and said the sender should have been careful before hand.But in the world where there is evil minded people diminishing the negative part of bitcoin you come across as a bright light to endure all the darkness.Best wishes to you man and kind words from you.

I think this answer will work here:


But of course, the user really wants to be on the forum, and asks to remove the proxy ban, tell me why should he shoot himself in the foot? For me, this story is quite logical, After all, someone else's money always remains someone else's. Many people present here have a religion, according to the rules of which there are commandments: "do not steal" and "do not deceive."
Let's add that the money goes to the account on Christmas Eve. Of course, not everything is in vain, because by appropriating someone else's today, we boomerang to lose tomorrow and much more. This is the law of life. Also, not for everyone, a thousand dollars is worthy of not sleeping well afterwards, but shuddering, every time stumbling somewhere.
Nevertheless, I applaud the one who returned the money, and I am glad that the world has not yet turned into a distorting mirror as it seems to us from time to time.

I think we should find out the user's nationality and send his president a thank you card for raising him well 🤔. On a serious note, it goes to show how good intentioned some people are notwithstanding their ranks here.

However, my question would be – How did you get the receiver's address, seeing that he's just a newbie and may not have taken part in any business deal on the forum? The user has just three posts here, though got registered in 2020 (I don't know if they were ever in any campaign). Was this just another chanced miracle happening upon us that the benevolent receiver just happened to be here at the nick of time?

...and there it is, someone very special and incurrptible.!
It took a little while for me to figure out the whole scenerio and how it happened; since someone made a typical post making references to how "giving honest replies" could fetch some more merits for anyone instead of spilling the whole forum with shitty post. Well, that's a very good point of consideration but on the contrary, I discovered that wasn't all he did.
Funny enough no one knows how he/she is gonna react to this no matter your evaluation until it happens then you'll discover most peeps that are even positively tagged might turn wolves in sheep clothing mostly for the fact that it was anonymous...
Bitter truth
 I don't have Smerits, I wouldn't hesitate giving you everything even if I had 100 in my custody.You deserve more accolades dude, at least you have a kind heart and you have stirred someone out there unknown to you,kudus!

Congratulations EZ0010

Some acts are worth commending, especially a newbie whose account status is so low that it can be abandoned. Yet, there are some higher ranking members who would not return the BTC even at the expense of getting negatively tagged. Even @Theymos confirmed he was somewhat anonymous.
Now, he has earned positive trust, especially from Theymos. If you are here for business, you have graciously earned the trust.
EZ0010, please don't allow the glaring corrupt world change your personality.

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This act reminds me when I lost my mobile phone, I was so bittered because I wasn't prepared to get another and I delayed to perform an important backup. On my way back from the search of my lost phone with a bittered heart, I saw a pulse which contained phone higher than mine. I smiled, powered the phone, the owner called and picked it up later same day. The owner was very grateful and was telling me about other things she would have lost in the phone. I couldn't even tell her my stories 

I am glad to see that everything worked out in the end.
It is really surprising to see a random newbie show such integrity and honesty. Way to go, @EZ0010. Perhaps there is still hope for human civilization. 

This is unironically the best Chrismas topic I have seen this year and it does not even try to be it.
Glad to see good honest people in action within this community, Merry Christmas.

This is the most happiest thread I have read in this entire month. Two people losing their money and getting it back.
Still couldn't believe theymos actually did that mistake. This makes me realize we should never take crypto payments for granted.
Although I do double check every time, I guess I will have to quadruple check every time I make a payment.

But thanks to EZ0010 and theymos, faith in humanity is restored 

This also shows that even the most experienced and old people in bitcoin can do the mistake of sending bitcoin to the wrong address.
We often think that only newbies in bitcoin do this mistake but you can see that even the founder of bitcointalk can do that mistake too.

All is well that ends well.  

It's not public information because it probably doesn't happen that often. Besides, theymos isn't looking to rob its users of a few hundred or thousand $ worth of Bitcoin when Bitcointalk has millions of $ in its reserves. And yeah, theymos is responsive via PM for forum-related questions or bugs. I assume all the other admins/mods would be as well.

First of all, double spending does not cancel the previous transaction andhthe fund does not return to the original address. If the wallet software allows double spending, the user (let's say, Greg), who mistakenly sent funds to the wrong address, creates a new transaction, with the exact same inputs from the first erroneous one, but this time to a different address (this could be a new address or an old address they had).
What a double spend does is just to out bid the previous transaction and get picked by a miner first. The previous transaction could still get confirmed first, so trying to double spend is not 100% effective.

Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your thought in this case. And thanks for the refund that sent by mistake.

Electrum only allows replacing the transaction by the fee. This means you can't double spend or cancel the transaction. But for that, you should have enabled Replace-By-Fee & edit fee option before making a transaction. The increasing fee will replace the transaction with the same address. You can't change the address from Electrum anyway (I am not sure if it's possible any new version). For double-spending, you may need to input your private key in some other tool or wallet. Then you can replace the address with a new transaction with a new address if the previous transaction hasn't been confirmed.

Maybe this question is a bit off topic, but I think we can learn a lot from this case in the future if it happens to someone else.

IMO, theymos or OP made a transaction that could actually be said to be a legitimate transaction even though the recipient's address was wrong. The OP sent $1000 to the wrong address at a cost of 3.2 sat/byte which took a little while to get at least 1 confirmation (I didn't try to find out about theymos transaction). If the OP sends fund via electrum or another wallet that he has complete control over, can the double spend feature work to cancel the transaction so that the fund can return to the OP if the transaction has not been confirmed?

Third option: EZ0010 didn't buy Copper Membership, but only paid to have his proxyban lifted. Then he made a mistake and overpaid.

Being honest when nobody is watching you is what makes someone truely honest. Well done EZ0010!

It happens to the best of us

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We never knows that or atleast its not discussed publicly on forum anywhere but with the help of this thread we found that theymos is actually helping the forum members via PM as well as via threads like this.

BTW merry Christmas to Everyone!

You can't take just that one sentence out of context. You have to consider the entire paragraph.
 
- No refunds will be given if you break the rules and get banned.
- No refunds will be given if the benefits of the copper membership get changed.
- No refunds will be given if the copper membership gets cancelled at one point in the future and you can no longer take advantage of its features.

But if you send $1000 worth of BTC by mistake, the coins will surely be returned as the post by theymos proves.

Exemplary behavior. Congratulations on doing the right thing!

We found a golden newbie from the mistake of two persons.

From now on theymos even going be be very cautious while clicking the next time in future more than before.

No, this isn't a drama but theymos and the OP just made a small mistake that really tests someone's integrity in this fairly anonymous space. So you shouldn't take it as a drama I don't agree with.

LOL, if not for being honest and getting to know them, then why would you trust someone from the internet?

That was expected that theymos is going to refund owlgames. But, What a drama happened. Even theymos accidentally send that amount to EZ0010, he refunded that immediately.  Wow! Nice man. I guess You are the most amazing Honest newbie I have seen in this forum. We appreciate your honesty. I know some people and I do buy/sell crypto with them and they have a good reputation. I guess, If I send that amount to someone that I trust (from the internet), I guess they would block me from every social media and I could get scammed by them.

But, Here is a different story. Everyone knows that theymos is the most trusted person in this forum. But, EZ0010's honesty was exceptional. There are only a few % of people who exist on the internet with such honesty.

No, owlgames overpaid, but theymos mistakenly sent his refund to EZ0010.  The "Copper Member" badge can be selected to display, or not display.  IIRC the default is to not display it.

There are two things I want to ask here:
1. Does EZ0010 overpay for copper members?
2. If so, why is the account status not a copper member?

I thinks EZ0010 did not use its main account ^{[copper member]} to return the bitcoin theymos randomly sent to him because theymos said that the final recipient was somewhat anonymous so it is unlikely to get the bitcoin back.

But, luckily EZ0010 got send bitcoin back on record and that made it a bit viral on forum especially in meta based on the amount of merit it received in the last 24 hours. Thanks to his honesty, he has earned 50+ merit, that's probably not worth the $1000 he could spend on a year-end party dinner with his friends. But the important lesson here is that in the dark there must be something of value, even if it doesn't emit light and that is a reflection of the attitude of the EZ0010.

Not everything is dark and negative in this world when we have honest people like you. When I read OP and beginning of theymos post, I didn't expected that this story will have such outcome. And it's even more nice that everything happned just before Christmas .

This feeling comes mostly - I think - from the news that are spread from the media and on the social networks sadly. To add to that, every day it seems that there is a new scam token that's ready to empty unaware users of their money - take a look at the most recent example of the Amazon Token[1]. Experienced users in this area already know what to watch out for and what dangerous are lurking behind these "offerings" but the random Joe on the street that hears about these "offers" just wants to quickly take advantage of the market, because "crypto" is booming and, for them, anything is crypto. Granted, their greed will most likely be their demise, but then they'll say that this "world" is full of scammers and criminals that just want to grab your money, so anyone else should stay out of it!

Take, for example, this recent post from r/CryptoCurrency, a prime example that most people are still unaware of whats actually happening regarding crypto acceptance:

There's even a coach that quit his job when he heard that the team was taken over by a Bitcoin podcaster. If you go to the post over at r/soccer[3] you'll see posts similar to this one[4] - regarding BTC/crypto concept:
Whenever I see a discussion about crypto, I always try my best to explain what it actually is and what it isn't. This is an uneven fight - every scam token that will be launched will put a nail on the "trust" of crypto for the random Joe - but I feel like that if every one of us makes the effort to at least teach 1 person about crypto, then it's already a positive thing. The most common argument, at least from my side, is "Bah but BTC is used by criminals!". But when I show them news such as these[5] their arguments quickly fade in strength ...

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[1]https://blog.avast.com/beware-of-a-new-amazon-token-crypto-scam
[2]https://libreddit.spike.codes/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/rmufg7/realized_how_disconnected_normal_people_are_from/
[3]https://libreddit.spike.codes/r/soccer/comments/rm4o60/bedford_fc_manager_quits_following_takeover_by/
[4]https://libreddit.spike.codes/r/soccer/comments/rm4o60/bedford_fc_manager_quits_following_takeover_by/hpjzh1g/?context=3
[5]https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/14/business/natwest-bank-money-laundering-trash-bags/index.html

This story gave me some thoughts.

How all the same falsely demonize BTC users by the media. As if bitcoin is used only by criminals, crooks and just villains. This topic is an example that things are completely different. Btc users are mostly honest and decent people, deserving respect. It is a pity that such cases, which prove the opposite of what the media say, for the most part remain here, within the community, and people simply don't know about such happy endings.

Also, it seems to me that this is one of the indicators of the convenience of bitcoin system for people. All participants in this incident themselves solved the problem between themselves, and, moreover, rather quickly.

Gold words.

Wow, You are the most honest Newbie I have seen here. 

If everyone would be so honest, how easy and stress free the world would be. Sending bitcoin to wrong address means lost of the money but not in case when we have honest people around. 

 

@owlgames&@EZ0010, it seems that you have both already started celebrating the Christmas and New Year holidays, so your addresses have been mixed up a bit, and the admin was no luckier either. As others have said, before you click the send button check everything a few times, because not everyone will be honest as an admin and return what was sent wrong.

I know how it feel to lose some Bitcoin either by human error or getting scammed as I experienced both and dont want someone to get same feelings.

Happy to see you got your money back. And many thanks to theymos

Got my refund just now! Thanks so much and happy holidays to the good guys here on the forum!

Cheers!

(Feeling sorry for your wrong refund payment as well and wow thanks to EZ0010!

In this situation it turned out we had two dummies: owlgames sent the BTC incorrectly to the forum, and then yesterday I sent his refund to the wrong address. I'd been referring to my previous notes on how to do the refund correctly, and I sent the BTC to the last person who overpaid, since their address was still in my notes and I forgot to change it this time. (Now I've rewritten these notes to remove addresses...)

I thought there was little chance of getting the BTC back, since the last person who overpaid looked fairly anonymous, and in any case they were probably using an exchange address or something. So this morning I refunded owlgames properly in a second transaction, and I expected to just eat the cost. But surprisingly, the person who got the random $1000 I accidentally sent, EZ0010, returned the BTC ~immediately. Thanks to him!

The lessons:
 - There are good, honest people in the world.
 - Always double-check your addresses before sending, even when you've done the exact same type of transaction a million times before.


Some wallets/exchanges don't let you send below a certain amount. If you overpay due to that, then your payment will be accepted, but that small amount will not be refunded. You also won't be refunded if you're banned or change your mind about paying. But accidental overpayments are refunded.

Yes, that's a catch here as it is clearly written that you can pay more to cover the fee or the amount can be greater than the minimum required and the excess amount will not be returned.
Let's see how the admins respond to this but keep in mind, even if they want to refund you, it may take a few days as admins are usually busy and may not respond instantly.

Sorry to hear you made miss transaction. When you registered your account and saw the evil ban message, there was a note that any larger amount sent to the address will not be refunded. I think that's the forum refund policy, a larger amount than the required amount will not return in scop of buy copper membership as well. But once again, the admin has the right to refund if he thinks it should refund. Only the admin could comment on that. That's the reason why we need to double-check the address during sending cryptocurrency.

Well, As everyone already said. I guess you are in the right place.
I guess you have to wait for theymos. It's better if you send a PM to him.
Because it's possible for him to not check the meta board and if he checks, it's possible to miss your thread.
You should thanks to your luck that you sent BTC by mistake to Bitcointalk address and not others. There is a 0.001% chance to get it back if you send that amount to others. I guess theymos will return you that amount since you already bought Copper membership and that $1000 was another transaction by mistake. Anyways, Wait for theymos. And don't forget to let the community know when you get back your BTC.


Right. Since he already bought the Copper Membership. It was possible to return him $975 In BTC ($25 For Copper Member) If he didn't buy the Copper Membership. But this was another transaction after buying The Copper membership. So, I guess he will get the full refund.
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 I would hope "No refunds will be given" pertains to the account itself and not some accidental over-payment. 

That's really unfortunate and reminding me of How to lose your Bitcoins with CTRL-C CTRL-V, never forget to double check your address before broadcasting your crypto transactions.

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When I look at the instructions on the page where we can buy copper membership, there is a warning


Take a look at the bolded words so you only can request the admins and I hope theymos will help you in this.

As others have said, you will need to PM theymos.

I would also suggest that you sign a message from bc1qxqlelgec66g5sp9qleqrfkqp3gmumyu7rw92cu with today's date to confirm you are actually the person who sent the above transaction.

I don't think this is a case of someone using faulty software, or being infected with malware. This is likely a case of someone intentionally having an address in their clipboard, then falsely thinking they copied another address into their clipboard.

Next time check carefully if what address you pasted before you send a BTC it sometimes happens to me before that I sent BTC to someone here because I copy-pasted someone's address from the signature campaign and then sent a BTC. I'm lucky that he sent my BTC back.
And I believe it's always happened it won't be a trojan horse just like the above said.

So since you sent it to the forums address accidentally I think you have a chance to get it back minus the transaction fee. Just wait a bit until Cyrus or theymos become online.

Since I always prefer to see any kind of transaction on the Blockchair[1] website, I went ahead and used your transaction hash (txid) on the website:

• TXID from the cooper membership payment - https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/69cdb56d1021108515c793ccf4da1af0ec75eae8b1d869f135c4dfb5b5dad0ba
• TXID from the mistaken payment - https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/786983a49d4b6e7ae9c55ea7179fd2fd092e2c100a690a611b484967a2bcaf66
• Cooper membership address - https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/35ZsijNuhmrAGZ6pPpQ5KNGqTPccBQBJqf

On your next payment you may not be so lucky as you were in this situation - as in sending the payment to an address that probably is controlled by the admins - so I advice you to follow simple rules to ensure that your payment won't end up in another person address in the future:

• A first rule of thumb is to always make sure you're using official software and not some modified client that you got in a "lookalike" website of the official software. Since you've already made the transaction and nothing bad happened then probably you're using an official version but, assuming you've used Electrum, you can always verify it[1].
• Always quadruple check the receiving address. In this case if you just saw the first and last 5 letters (for example) and compared them with your friends address, you'll probably notice your mistake. For big amounts of money then I highly advice you to check the whole address.
• Be aware that copy and pasting the address doesn't ensure that you're pasting the same address that you copied before (assuming your PC is infected and you are unaware of it). This is known as a clipboard hijack attack[2] where the content of your clipboard is changed whenever is pasted somewhere. You can read more about how it works here[3], but the concept is simple:
  
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  How does it work?
  
  The Trojan horse is triggered when certain digits similar to the Bitcoin address are copied. The virus uses a custom database of numerous third-party Bitcoin addresses to replace them with the recently copied address immediately after detection. If you are not sure this is a virus, you can check yourself by copying and pasting some text or a number not similar to BTC address. If, in this case, the copy/paste goes correctly, but the pasted BTC address is different from the copied one, then your device is affected by the Trojan.
• Be sure to check if you're sending the right amount of BTC and the right unit. 0.1 millibit (mBTC - +- $4.89) is not the same as 0.1 BTC (+-$4885). I always recommend this neat tool[4] made by bitmover to help people out in this field.

Albeit few, these tips would be a good start to avoid future mistakes similar to the one you've just did. I'm sure more tips will be given by more experienced users, but the core message will always point to triple/quadruple check the receiving address.

As for your query, you're in the right place to have it answered. I would say that if you don't have an answer/feedback in a few days - since it's Christmas time and either theymos/Cyrus could be traveling - I would send them a message perhaps next week to bring the issue to their attention.

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[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-how-to-safely-download-and-verify-electrum-guide-5240594
[2]https://www.techopedia.com/definition/26419/clipboard-hijacking-attack
[3]https://help.cryptopay.me/en/articles/3415089-virus-threat-bitcoin-address-switcher
[4]https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html

One more generous ''donation'' made by mistake, but I see that your coins are still seating in the same address, so I wouldn't worry to much if you already contacted moderators or theymos with private message.

PS
It's always a good thing to label your transactions/addresses and double check before clicking send to avoid errors like this happening in future

You are still lucky if the btc you sent falls into the right hands because you can still get it back just by asking for support. I don't know who owns the private key of that address, if it belongs to the forum then the admin is the most likely person to have it.

So I think you're in the right place, so be patient or you can also send a PM to one of the admin of this forum who has been mentioned by Lafu. So be patient and wait for their response.

I guess you should be good with that post here !
You can also write a pm to theymos or Cyrus and explain that all to them .
But yeah as i am said and have written you should be good with that thread and post here .
Just wait for a reply from the Admins and they will manage this case .

hey, today i paid for a copper member for my account, the payment address is

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/35ZsijNuhmrAGZ6pPpQ5KNGqTPccBQBJqf

Then one hour ago when i was trying to sent $1000 worth of btc to my friend, i wrongly sent it to the copper member payment address.

first tx: 0.00053225 btc ($25)

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/69cdb56d1021108515c793ccf4da1af0ec75eae8b1d869f135c4dfb5b5dad0ba



second tx: 0.02059863 ($1000)

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/786983a49d4b6e7ae9c55ea7179fd2fd092e2c100a690a611b484967a2bcaf66

Please advise on how can i get a refund of the 2nd tx .. Can you help just send it back?

Thanks a lot!